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Post by hyaduck on May 14, 2022 14:01:44 GMT
Not at all, he was brilliant pre injury and to a lot on here’s surprise, he was brilliant after as well. Not sure how at all relevant. We've already seen Powell back and scoring Ole Ole Ole Ole Bojan Bojan…Repeat!!!
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Post by jokker on May 14, 2022 14:29:56 GMT
He also plays for the foul, its clever play. He knows he gets kicked, so uses it to his advantage, which gains us as a team an advantage. Why would any Stoke fan complain about this? Surely players going out of their way to intentionally kick him is unsportsmanlike? It is. So because someone does something wrong, you should as well? I personally find it odd that people are happy watching adults throw themselves around like war victims. It’s distasteful and embarrassing. There was a goalkeeper recently who was recorded lying on the floor smacking his hand to the ground and screaming as though he’d been stabbed as he went for a 50-50 with an incoming striker. The replay showed the striker made NO contact. That’s cheating. He still hit the ground harder because the striker withdrew from the xG action. With nothing to run into he was surprised and in falling to the ground broke his ribs. It can be traumatic.
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Post by hotpot on May 16, 2022 5:04:21 GMT
Any offers for him as yet? Or should we pay him triple for remaining?
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Post by jeycov on May 16, 2022 6:33:36 GMT
Any offers for him as yet? Or should we pay him triple for remaining? Pay him triple
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 16, 2022 6:45:28 GMT
If we are not selling Powell, then we should pay him double and offer him a long term deal, so we can build a side around him that suits his play. Just asking. So the plan is pay double the going rate for a player whose appearance record for us is one in two and build our promotion push around him? Apart from pissing off the rest of the squad, putting us at risk of falling foul of FFP, employing a tactic that only works when a particular player with a shit attendance record is on the pitch and adopting a tactic honed in Sunday League football when having the opposition half pissed from the night before and the goalkeeper chucking up last night's kebab behind the goal doesn't tend to happen what can possibly go wrong?
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Post by lordb on May 16, 2022 7:19:53 GMT
If we are not selling Powell, then we should pay him double and offer him a long term deal, so we can build a side around him that suits his play. Just asking. So the plan is pay double the going rate for a player whose appearance record for us is one in two and build our promotion push around him? Apart from pissing off the rest of the squad, putting us at risk of falling foul of FFP, employing a tactic that only works when a particular player with a shit attendance record is on the pitch and adopting a tactic honed in Sunday League football when having the opposition half pissed from the night before and the goalkeeper chucking up last night's kebab behind the goal doesn't tend to happen what can possibly go wrong? One in two? That's as daft as the pay him double comment
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 8:02:41 GMT
If Powell is increasingly injury prone, then he seriously isn't worth keeping.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2022 8:04:52 GMT
If we are not selling Powell, then we should pay him double and offer him a long term deal, so we can build a side around him that suits his play. Just asking. So the plan is pay double the going rate for a player whose appearance record for us is one in two and build our promotion push around him? Apart from pissing off the rest of the squad, putting us at risk of falling foul of FFP, employing a tactic that only works when a particular player with a shit attendance record is on the pitch and adopting a tactic honed in Sunday League football when having the opposition half pissed from the night before and the goalkeeper chucking up last night's kebab behind the goal doesn't tend to happen what can possibly go wrong? At ease, soldier, he’s on your side.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2022 8:05:31 GMT
If Powell is increasingly injury prone, then he seriously isn't worth keeping. He missed seven games last season.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2022 8:05:51 GMT
If Powell is increasingly injury prone, then he seriously isn't worth keeping. He’s not though is he. He’s our only hope of doing anything.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 8:07:45 GMT
If Powell is increasingly injury prone, then he seriously isn't worth keeping. He missed seven games last season. Really? Could've sworn it was more than that.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 8:08:51 GMT
If Powell is increasingly injury prone, then he seriously isn't worth keeping. He’s not though is he. He’s our only hope of doing anything. Pinning your promotion hopes on one player is a thoroughly depressing thought.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2022 8:08:54 GMT
He missed seven games last season. Really? Could've sworn it was more than that. Really.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2022 8:09:46 GMT
He’s not though is he. He’s our only hope of doing anything. Pinning your promotion hopes on one player is a thoroughly depressing thought. Who are we pinning them on if we let him go?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 8:12:21 GMT
Really? Could've sworn it was more than that. Really. It sure felt like a lot more, this season just ended.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 8:12:46 GMT
Pinning your promotion hopes on one player is a thoroughly depressing thought. Who are we pinning them on if we let him go? I have no idea but it doesn't detract from my point.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2022 8:14:14 GMT
It sure felt like a lot more, this season just ended. I’m talking about last season, 2020-21. This season he missed loads, mainly due to his malingering, cowardly refusal to run off a broken leg.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 8:16:06 GMT
It sure felt like a lot more, this season just ended. I’m talking about last season, 2020-21. This season he missed loads, mainly due to his malingering, cowardly refusal to run off a broken leg. I was talking about this season not the one you're alluding to.
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Post by stokecitytalke on May 16, 2022 8:26:07 GMT
He made 18 league appearances, plus 1 in the league Cup in the season just gone.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2022 8:49:54 GMT
I’m talking about last season, 2020-21. This season he missed loads, mainly due to his malingering, cowardly refusal to run off a broken leg. I was talking about this season not the one you're alluding to. So you’re basing him being ‘increasingly injury prone’ entirely on this season, when his longest time out was due to a broken leg?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 8:55:13 GMT
I was talking about this season not the one you're alluding to. So you’re basing him being ‘increasingly injury prone’ entirely on this season, when his longest time out was due to a broken leg? Lots of smaller time outs in addition to the leg injury though. If we're reliant on him for a promotion challenge then we will struggle.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2022 9:05:55 GMT
So you’re basing him being ‘increasingly injury prone’ entirely on this season, when his longest time out was due to a broken leg? Lots of smaller time outs in addition to the leg injury though. If we're reliant on him for a promotion challenge then we will struggle. Might a better solution be to sign other players who can share the load, rather than binning him and leaving us with players who don’t offers us anything like as much?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 9:27:35 GMT
Lots of smaller time outs in addition to the leg injury though. If we're reliant on him for a promotion challenge then we will struggle. Might a better solution be to sign other players who can share the load, rather than binning him and leaving us with players who don’t offers us anything like as much? Fair point, no disagreement there.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 10:01:41 GMT
How about bringing Sawyers in and pushing Powell into AM/false 9? I think they could link up well.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2022 10:33:49 GMT
How about bringing Sawyers in and pushing Powell into AM/false 9? I think they could link up well. I think AM is where Powell has been playing isn't it? Can't play Sawyers in a deeper role I don't think. You could maybe play Powell as a support striker in a front two with Sawyers as a 10 behind him?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 16, 2022 10:45:56 GMT
The third week of May was said to be when WBA had to inform Sawyers whether they were triggering the extra year on his deal there.
So we could see some announcement there in the next few days
I'd be surprised if Bruce kept him on there, on the deal he signed when he was an in-demand, peak-age, top-end Bosman in a different wage environment.
I can definitely see MON taking him - but no idea where he'd fit into a midfield with Baker and Powell as nailed-on starters, with Vrancic already seemingly here for another year (and it'd be nice to get some announcement on Vrancic' status too, but we can only assume he's got the extra year)
So if this week was the deadline for Sawyers, it probably will be for Powell too.
It's got to be doubtful that we've just triggered the extra year on his current terms, given the way Championship wages have collapsed in the last 3 yrs.
It sound like we're trying to agree something on a considerable wage reduction, whether it's for 1 yr or something longer. And with no announcement, it doesn't sound like there's a meeting of minds quite yet.
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Post by lordb on May 16, 2022 11:02:59 GMT
The third week of May was said to be when WBA had to inform Sawyers whether they were triggering the extra year on his deal there. So we could see some announcement there in the next few days I'd be surprised if Bruce kept him on there, on the deal he signed when he was an in-demand, peak-age, top-end Bosman in a different wage environment. I can definitely see MON taking him - but no idea where he'd fit into a midfield with Baker and Powell as nailed-on starters, with Vrancic already seemingly here for another year (and it'd be nice to get some announcement on Vrancic' status too, but we can only assume he's got the extra year) So if this week was the deadline for Sawyers, it probably will be for Powell too. It's got to be doubtful that we've just triggered the extra year on his current terms, given the way Championship wages have collapsed in the last 3 yrs. It sound like we're trying to agree something on a considerable wage reduction, whether it's for 1 yr or something longer. And with no announcement, it doesn't sound like there's a meeting of minds quite yet. Was presuming it's Sawyers or Vrancic? Would explain delay re Vrancic
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 11:03:21 GMT
How about bringing Sawyers in and pushing Powell into AM/false 9? I think they could link up well. I think AM is where Powell has been playing isn't it? Can't play Sawyers in a deeper role I don't think. You could maybe play Powell as a support striker in a front two with Sawyers as a 10 behind him? Yep...that would work I think.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 16, 2022 11:08:52 GMT
Vrancic and Sawyers? We just won't trouble the top 6 if we repeat last season's mistakes. Signing 30 year old Sawyers would be bad business and Mario will only feature sporadically. Out of the two, Vrancic on a year's contract would be my choice.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 16, 2022 11:17:37 GMT
The third week of May was said to be when WBA had to inform Sawyers whether they were triggering the extra year on his deal there. So we could see some announcement there in the next few days I'd be surprised if Bruce kept him on there, on the deal he signed when he was an in-demand, peak-age, top-end Bosman in a different wage environment. I can definitely see MON taking him - but no idea where he'd fit into a midfield with Baker and Powell as nailed-on starters, with Vrancic already seemingly here for another year (and it'd be nice to get some announcement on Vrancic' status too, but we can only assume he's got the extra year) So if this week was the deadline for Sawyers, it probably will be for Powell too. It's got to be doubtful that we've just triggered the extra year on his current terms, given the way Championship wages have collapsed in the last 3 yrs. It sound like we're trying to agree something on a considerable wage reduction, whether it's for 1 yr or something longer. And with no announcement, it doesn't sound like there's a meeting of minds quite yet. Was presuming it's Sawyers or Vrancic? Would explain delay re Vrancic Possible - If that's the case, he'd presumably go for Sawyers when he becomes available and say adios to Mario. But equally possible he's hit the required number of games to trigger the extra year, and it's just gone unmentioned. Time will tell - but I really can't see the point of having Powell, Sawyers AND Vrancic, when we need other types of midfielders. At the moment, we could very well end up with all three - but, at the same time, we could end up with none of them!
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