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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 5, 2022 15:50:23 GMT
suggest you look up the definition of FACT FACT is the new exclamation mark. Didn’t you know? Hyaducks facts are subjective opinion, FACT!
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Post by FullerMagic on May 5, 2022 15:55:02 GMT
Realistically, Brown's going to romp it, isn't he? In terms of league games, Souttar has played 16, and Powell 13. Jagielka and Baker have both only played 19. Not sure that's enough either, even though they've really been the only 4 players to really be in the conversation. Suppose it'll end up a Brown-Tymon top 2 as he's done okay and has played virtually every game. Good luck rounding out the top three though. Oh of course he is. I just don't think he's been the best player this season. I hadn't even considered Tymon. Baker may squeeze into the top 3 by default, given his eye-catching goal tally, unless Joey Allen takes his place on the podium
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 5, 2022 15:58:45 GMT
Oh of course he is. I just don't think he's been the best player this season. I hadn't even considered Tymon. Baker may squeeze into the top 3 by default, given his eye-catching goal tally, unless Joey Allen takes his place on the podium I think Baker will be in the top 3 because his performances have been recent. And that's why Allen isn't a bad shout for that too.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 5, 2022 16:13:36 GMT
I'm amazed you're not suggesting Forrester, Bayern You're not are you because that's just nonsensical bullshit Not in your parallel universe it isn't.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 5, 2022 16:14:29 GMT
Baker, with his goal return in games played, is a cert for second I think.
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Post by jokker on May 5, 2022 16:26:54 GMT
No one's asked for my opinion, so I will...and I nominate Tymon!
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Post by Squeekster on May 5, 2022 16:48:41 GMT
I looked it up on the urban dictionary, Wum" is the female discharge or female Cum.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 5, 2022 17:06:31 GMT
I looked it up on the urban dictionary, Wum" is the female discharge or female Cum. He's probably one of them as well.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 5, 2022 19:45:22 GMT
I like many Stoke fans (I assume) like both Powell and Brown. Just because someone likes a grafter (and someone who makes the absolute most of the talent he has been given) it doesn't mean they can't appreciate a maverick talent like Powell. There’s far too many that don’t like Powell. What a ridiculous statement. Whether anyone "likes" a player is a personal opinion - it isn't up to you or anyone else for that matter to decide which players someone should like. Whether a player has particular attributes (like technical ability, pace etc) is a different matter - there are more objective measures to base an arguement around. For example I think Powell is a far more technically gifted player than Brown. However I like Brown and don't particularly like Powell (too much of a mardarse for my tastes). However I want both in the squad because I don't think who I like matters that much.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 5, 2022 19:48:21 GMT
There’s far too many that don’t like Powell. What a ridiculous statement. Whether anyone "likes" a player is a personal opinion - it isn't up to you or anyone else for that matter to decide which players someone should like. Whether a player has particular attributes (like technical ability, pace etc) is a different matter - there are more objective measures to base an arguement around. For example I think Powell is a far more technically gifted player than Brown. However I like Brown and don't particularly like Powell (too much of a mardarse for my tastes). However I want both in the squad because I don't think who I like matters that much. He's clearly not a mardarse.
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Post by wakeypotter on May 5, 2022 20:29:53 GMT
Put him up on the market. If Powell is really a freaking superstar, then we should be able to reap a fat profit by selling him, and that is, if any decent club dares to bite the bait. Let the market decide. We don't need to make a fat profit, he's a player we need to build a team around. So for that you're out because you know the square root of F##k all about football. You can’t build a team around 1 player that will get you nowhere and into trouble
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 5, 2022 20:31:59 GMT
What a ridiculous statement. Whether anyone "likes" a player is a personal opinion - it isn't up to you or anyone else for that matter to decide which players someone should like. Whether a player has particular attributes (like technical ability, pace etc) is a different matter - there are more objective measures to base an arguement around. For example I think Powell is a far more technically gifted player than Brown. However I like Brown and don't particularly like Powell (too much of a mardarse for my tastes). However I want both in the squad because I don't think who I like matters that much. He's clearly not a mardarse. I would describe his behaviour on the pitch - going down and staying down, whinging when he doesn't get the fouls he thinks he deserves (some valid, some not), getting wound up and letting it affect his game are all hallmarks of a mardarse. He's the sort of player who gets targeted because it pays off. And its fun to wind up a mardarse. He's still a good player. But I don't like him. Because in my opinion he's a mardarse. And I know a mardarse when I see one.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 5, 2022 20:34:11 GMT
We don't need to make a fat profit, he's a player we need to build a team around. So for that you're out because you know the square root of F##k all about football. You can’t build a team around 1 player that will get you nowhere and into trouble In what way will he ‘get us into trouble’?
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Post by wakeypotter on May 5, 2022 20:35:56 GMT
You can’t build a team around 1 player that will get you nowhere and into trouble In what way will he ‘get us into trouble’? Well if he plays 16 games like he has this season that gets you into trouble if you build a team around 1 player. I thought someone with your knowledge would know this
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 5, 2022 20:37:50 GMT
In what way will he ‘get us into trouble’? Well if he plays 16 games like he has this season that gets you into trouble if you build a team around 1 player. I thought someone with your knowledge would know this So are you saying the situation of building around him would get us into trouble or the player himself?
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Post by wakeypotter on May 5, 2022 20:46:22 GMT
Well if he plays 16 games like he has this season that gets you into trouble if you build a team around 1 player. I thought someone with your knowledge would know this So are you saying the situation of building around him would get us into trouble or the player himself? Are you taking piss. I’m saying if you build a team around one person ie Powell the if they get injured the whole build your team around one player ie Powell it would fuck up the whole build your team around one player ie Powell when there not there 🤦♂️
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 5, 2022 20:55:08 GMT
So are you saying the situation of building around him would get us into trouble or the player himself? Are you taking piss. I’m saying if you build a team around one person ie Powell the if they get injured the whole build your team around one player ie Powell it would fuck up the whole build your team around one player ie Powell when there not there 🤦♂️ I’m not taking the piss, no, it’s a pretty straightforward question. You suggested initially that the player himself would get us into trouble, now you’re suggesting it’s the situation of building around an injury prone player that would get us into trouble. I’m just querying which of the two is your point? Sounds like it’s the second one, which is fair enough - you’d need other good options as cover/rotation for him. The injury prone thing is overstated though. He only missed 7 games last season.
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Post by hyaduck on May 5, 2022 21:04:51 GMT
We don't need to make a fat profit, he's a player we need to build a team around. So for that you're out because you know the square root of F##k all about football. You can’t build a team around 1 player that will get you nowhere and into trouble I understand your reasoning regarding injuries but Powell is the most talented player at the club by miles so the team should be built around that player not considering whether he gets injured or not. One needs to go back to football school one thinks.
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Post by wakeypotter on May 5, 2022 21:05:01 GMT
Are you taking piss. I’m saying if you build a team around one person ie Powell the if they get injured the whole build your team around one player ie Powell it would fuck up the whole build your team around one player ie Powell when there not there 🤦♂️ I’m not taking the piss, no, it’s a pretty straightforward question. You suggested initially that the player himself would get us into trouble, now you’re suggesting it’s the situation of building around an injury prone player that would get us into trouble. I’m just querying which of the two is your point? Sounds like it’s the second one, which is fair enough - you’d need other good options as cover/rotation for him. The injury prone thing is overstated though. He only missed 7 games last season. Ok sorry for getting shirty. Yeh it is the 2nd point maybe I didn’t make my post clear. We relied on Campbell last season, I’m not saying we built a team around him but we went to pot when he got injured. Powell if stays May play most games next season who knows but your right we would need cover/rotation. My opinion is you can’t build a team around one person.
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Post by greenhoff on May 5, 2022 21:08:51 GMT
He's clearly not a mardarse. I would describe his behaviour on the pitch - going down and staying down, whinging when he doesn't get the fouls he thinks he deserves (some valid, some not), getting wound up and letting it affect his game are all hallmarks of a mardarse. He's the sort of player who gets targeted because it pays off. And its fun to wind up a mardarse. He's still a good player. But I don't like him. Because in my opinion he's a mardarse. And I know a mardarse when I see one. It's patently obvious he's not a mard arse
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Post by wakeypotter on May 5, 2022 21:10:37 GMT
You can’t build a team around 1 player that will get you nowhere and into trouble I understand your reasoning regarding injuries but Powell is the most talented player at the club by miles so the team should be built around that player not considering whether he gets injured or not. One needs to go back to football school one thinks. He has the most flair but doesn’t bring it to the table too regularly in my book. So if you don’t consider if he got injured when he gets injured then your plans are up in the air as you stated he’s the most talented player in the squad so you couldn’t replace him. I don’t need to go back to football school mucker as got a decent cv 👍
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 5, 2022 21:16:37 GMT
I understand your reasoning regarding injuries but Powell is the most talented player at the club by miles so the team should be built around that player not considering whether he gets injured or not. One needs to go back to football school one thinks. He has the most flair but doesn’t bring it to the table too regularly in my book. So if you don’t consider if he got injured when he gets injured then your plans are up in the air as you stated he’s the most talented player in the squad so you couldn’t replace him. I don’t need to go back to football school mucker as got a decent cv 👍 He does bring it pretty regularly though, for a player in his position. Tachyon’s article shows that. You seem to want a flair player in his position who plays brilliantly for every minute of every game. Those barely exist in the Prem outside the very top clubs, let alone at this level.
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Post by sticky on May 5, 2022 21:21:49 GMT
We need to be more attacking at home. Powell makes/creates chances, this injury/mardarse stuff has been done to death. It’s quite simple imo, we need to keep him and get half decent cover
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Post by wakeypotter on May 5, 2022 21:23:16 GMT
He has the most flair but doesn’t bring it to the table too regularly in my book. So if you don’t consider if he got injured when he gets injured then your plans are up in the air as you stated he’s the most talented player in the squad so you couldn’t replace him. I don’t need to go back to football school mucker as got a decent cv 👍 He does bring it pretty regularly though, for a player in his position. Tachyon’s article shows that. You seem to want a flair player in his position who plays brilliantly for every minute of every game. Those barely exist in the Prem outside the very top clubs, let alone at this level. It’s all about opinions though. I think you must watch him with rose coloured glasses on. No I realise a flair player and wingers for that matter drift in and out of the game and some games don’t turn up at all. I do expect more good games than bad. He does frustrate me at times yes but all in all he’s a decent player but a player who is overrated by some.
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Post by a on May 5, 2022 21:26:23 GMT
I’m sorry but Souttar has played 16 games, just over a third of the season. That would frankly be crackers. Baker has played 20, again not enough (just, and only imo), although Baker has been bloody brilliant. Brown has played more games than both combined and has played well. I know you’d never vote for Brown but a more deserving player this season you will not find. I don't think it matters, I think they've been the best two players this season. No one has come to close to surpassing how Souttar played. Of course it does. Do yourself a favour for gods sakes
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 5, 2022 21:26:42 GMT
He does bring it pretty regularly though, for a player in his position. Tachyon’s article shows that. You seem to want a flair player in his position who plays brilliantly for every minute of every game. Those barely exist in the Prem outside the very top clubs, let alone at this level. It’s all about opinions though. I think you must watch him with rose coloured glasses on. No I realise a flair player and wingers for that matter drift in and out of the game and some games don’t turn up at all. I do expect more good games than bad. He does frustrate me at times yes but all in all he’s a decent player but a player who is overrated by some. I don’t watch him with rose tinted glasses, I watch the actual game and his contribution - the goals he’s regularly scored and the chances he’s regularly created. Again, Tachyon’s Sentinel piece here backs that up www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-nick-powell-contract-7029699.amp
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Post by hyaduck on May 5, 2022 21:44:04 GMT
I understand your reasoning regarding injuries but Powell is the most talented player at the club by miles so the team should be built around that player not considering whether he gets injured or not. One needs to go back to football school one thinks. He has the most flair but doesn’t bring it to the table too regularly in my book. So if you don’t consider if he got injured when he gets injured then your plans are up in the air as you stated he’s the most talented player in the squad so you couldn’t replaceu him. I don’t need to go back to football school mucker as got a decent cv 👍 In your book…I’d get another book if I was you mucker. Your football knowledge is lacking, just out of curiosity in YOUR BOOK who would you build a team around? Brown….
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 5, 2022 22:08:49 GMT
I don't think it matters, I think they've been the best two players this season. No one has come to close to surpassing how Souttar played. Of course it does. Do yourself a favour for gods sakes Baker will be top 3 surely. And it’s because it’s been recent. Souttar should be no different just because it was at the start of the season.
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Post by hotpot on May 6, 2022 3:54:25 GMT
Just wondering how much would Stoke accept, if there were any offer(s) for Powell? A million?
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Post by wakeypotter on May 6, 2022 5:48:09 GMT
He has the most flair but doesn’t bring it to the table too regularly in my book. So if you don’t consider if he got injured when he gets injured then your plans are up in the air as you stated he’s the most talented player in the squad so you couldn’t replaceu him. I don’t need to go back to football school mucker as got a decent cv 👍 In your book…I’d get another book if I was you mucker. Your football knowledge is lacking, just out of curiosity in YOUR BOOK who would you build a team around? Brown…. Your not getting it bud. I wouldn’t build a team around anyone. I’d build a squad of quality players. It’s you who’s football knowledge is lacking. 😜
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