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Post by leicspotter on Feb 8, 2022 9:34:29 GMT
The Met not taking any action, WTF ? From Met Police website...not really their thing. Animal cruelty Animal cruelty is when someone doesn’t care for or deliberately hurts an animal. It can include anything from physical violence, to deliberate mental distress or neglect, for example not feeding or cleaning an animal. If you see, or suspect, that a person may be treating an animal badly, whether this is physical violence, neglect or any other form of cruelty, you should report this to the RSPCA’s cruelty line (7am-10pm, seven days a week).
You can contact them on 0300 1234 999. The call will cost the same as any call to a UK landline number.
We work with the RSPCA to investigate cases of animal cruelty.
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Post by callas12 on Feb 8, 2022 9:35:41 GMT
The Met not taking any action, WTF ? Yet the teacher who punched the horse last year was prosecuted & lost her job in the process! I'm sure as they have done with Boris's Parties, the Police will have no choice but to U'turn on this decision and have to act!
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Post by tinofspam on Feb 8, 2022 9:44:24 GMT
Is it possible for us to arrange a Lion to drop kick him across a kitchen floor and give him a good slap
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 8, 2022 10:03:55 GMT
The Met not taking any action, WTF ? Yet the teacher who punched the horse last year was prosecuted & lost her job in the process! I'm sure as they have done with Boris's Parties, the Police will have no choice but to U'turn on this decision and have to act! I’m no expert but I’m led to believe that the RSPCA are the prosecuting authority in about 90% of animal cruelty cases particularly at the lower end which, however distasteful and shameful, this is. The police only really become involved in major cases which are too extensive and expensive for the RSPCA to both investigate and then prosecute. I think you’ll find the teacher who was convicted of cruelty to the horse was prosecuted by the RSPCA not the police.
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Post by gaznandi on Feb 8, 2022 10:07:58 GMT
How’s the video got out on social media? He must be proud of what he’s done otherwise surely it would of remained private on his phone! His brother, who's filming it, put it out on Snapchat
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 8, 2022 10:08:07 GMT
The Met not taking any action, WTF ? Think the MET have other things to concentrate on rather than cat slapping, they have PM parties and law breaking to ignore. Horrible bastard.
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Post by franklin on Feb 8, 2022 10:08:44 GMT
Yet the teacher who punched the horse last year was prosecuted & lost her job in the process! I'm sure as they have done with Boris's Parties, the Police will have no choice but to U'turn on this decision and have to act! I’m no expert but I’m led to believe that the RSPCA are the prosecuting authority in about 90% of animal cruelty cases particularly at the lower end which, however distasteful and shameful, this is. The police only really become involved in major cases which are too extensive and expensive for the RSPCA to both investigate and then prosecute. I think you’ll find the teacher who was convicted of cruelty to the horse was prosecuted by the RSPCA not the police. You are indeed correct the RSPCA are the organisation to pursue this matter not the Police. They sometimes use the police stations facilities but they are in charge and take cases to court.
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Post by Stoke70 on Feb 8, 2022 10:09:41 GMT
Fucking scumbag
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 8, 2022 10:10:10 GMT
How’s the video got out on social media? He must be proud of what he’s done otherwise surely it would of remained private on his phone! His brother, who's filming it, put it out on Snapchat I mean how dumb can you get. “Wait Kurt, hurt that cat again, I didn’t get it on film the first time - we need to make sure there’s recorded evidence in the public domain that can be used against you”
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Post by callas12 on Feb 8, 2022 10:12:02 GMT
I’m no expert but I’m led to believe that the RSPCA are the prosecuting authority in about 90% of animal cruelty cases particularly at the lower end which, however distasteful and shameful, this is. The police only really become involved in major cases which are too extensive and expensive for the RSPCA to both investigate and then prosecute. I think you’ll find the teacher who was convicted of cruelty to the horse was prosecuted by the RSPCA not the police. You are indeed correct the RSPCA are the organisation to pursue this matter not the Police. They sometimes use the police stations facilities but they are in charge and take cases to court. Fair Do's... Think clarity should be made to this effect as alot of people are asking why the Police have said they won't prosecute. Talk Sport had a big piece on it this morning. Clarity goes along way to put the police lack of perceived inaction to bed
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 8, 2022 10:13:20 GMT
His brother, who's filming it, put it out on Snapchat I mean how dumb can you get. “Wait Kurt, hurt that cat again, I didn’t get it on film the first time - we need to make sure there’s recorded evidence in the public domain that can be used against you” Watching his impression of a dog chasing a balloon week on week for us leads me to think intelligence isn't his strong point footballing or otherwise........
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 8, 2022 10:14:13 GMT
I’m no expert but I’m led to believe that the RSPCA are the prosecuting authority in about 90% of animal cruelty cases particularly at the lower end which, however distasteful and shameful, this is. The police only really become involved in major cases which are too extensive and expensive for the RSPCA to both investigate and then prosecute. I think you’ll find the teacher who was convicted of cruelty to the horse was prosecuted by the RSPCA not the police. You are indeed correct the RSPCA are the organisation to pursue this matter not the Police. They sometimes use the police stations facilities but they are in charge and take cases to court. I assume they also use the police if they need to arrest someone as the RSPCA won’t have any powers of arrest.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 8, 2022 10:23:22 GMT
You are indeed correct the RSPCA are the organisation to pursue this matter not the Police. They sometimes use the police stations facilities but they are in charge and take cases to court. Fair Do's... Think clarity should be made to this effect as alot of people are asking why the Police have said they won't prosecute. Talk Sport had a big piece on it this morning. Clarity goes along way to put the police lack of perceived inaction to bed I don’t think PR has ever been one of their strong points. Talk Sport and the rest just jumping on the bandwagon. It’s trendy at the minute to give the police a kicking. I noticed the ‘pitch intruder’ thread on here the other day quite quickly developed into a ‘blame the police for not stopping it or responding quickly enough’ thread.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 8, 2022 10:27:17 GMT
If this isnt prosecuted (very publicly) to the fullest extent of the law how long is it before a load of other mentally challenged thugs start filming similar for a bit of the notariety they crave.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2022 10:32:45 GMT
Fair Do's... Think clarity should be made to this effect as alot of people are asking why the Police have said they won't prosecute. Talk Sport had a big piece on it this morning. Clarity goes along way to put the police lack of perceived inaction to bed I don’t think PR has ever been one of their strong points. Talk Sport and the rest just jumping on the bandwagon. It’s trendy at the minute to give the police a kicking. I noticed the ‘pitch intruder’ thread on here the other day quite quickly developed into a ‘blame the police for not stopping it or responding quickly enough’ thread. Never develops into a discussion about binge drinking. Odd that.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 8, 2022 10:33:53 GMT
I don’t think PR has ever been one of their strong points. Talk Sport and the rest just jumping on the bandwagon. It’s trendy at the minute to give the police a kicking. I noticed the ‘pitch intruder’ thread on here the other day quite quickly developed into a ‘blame the police for not stopping it or responding quickly enough’ thread. Never develops into a discussion about binge drinking. Odd that. Or widespread class A drug taking.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 8, 2022 10:36:24 GMT
If this isnt prosecuted (very publicly) to the fullest extent of the law how long is it before a load of other mentally challenged thugs start filming similar for a bit of the notariety they crave. Mate it happens day in day out sadly. The only reason this is getting so much publicity is the ‘mentally challenged thug’ happens to be a famous footballer.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2022 10:37:30 GMT
Never develops into a discussion about binge drinking. Odd that. Or widespread class A drug taking. I actually think the talk of drugs takes away from the role of the alcohol tbh. I think more people will be pissed than high. Both are big issues. The train home on Saturday wasn't a pleasant experience and that was as someone who I think I could clobber someone if needed, nevermind if I was someone not used to football fans or travelling on my own and not being the way I am.
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Post by callas12 on Feb 8, 2022 10:37:56 GMT
I’m no expert but I’m led to believe that the RSPCA are the prosecuting authority in about 90% of animal cruelty cases particularly at the lower end which, however distasteful and shameful, this is. The police only really become involved in major cases which are too extensive and expensive for the RSPCA to both investigate and then prosecute. I think you’ll find the teacher who was convicted of cruelty to the horse was prosecuted by the RSPCA not the police. You are indeed correct the RSPCA are the organisation to pursue this matter not the Police. They sometimes use the police stations facilities but they are in charge and take cases to court. www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/footage-shows-police-officer-repeatedly-20458654Just putting it out there, this officer was charged for animal Cruelty by West Yorkshire Police.. in a case which was whilst high profile certainly not as big as this Zouma case has and will become!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 8, 2022 10:42:43 GMT
You are indeed correct the RSPCA are the organisation to pursue this matter not the Police. They sometimes use the police stations facilities but they are in charge and take cases to court. www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/footage-shows-police-officer-repeatedly-20458654Just putting it out there, this officer was charged for animal Cruelty by West Yorkshire Police.. in a case which was whilst high profile certainly not as big as this Zouma case has and will become! I assume because he was a cop. Can you imagine the outcry if they hadn’t? Like I said I think the police can prosecute in exceptional cases. They just choose to let the RSPCA deal with most cases as they have the necessary experience.
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Post by callas12 on Feb 8, 2022 10:43:00 GMT
I don’t think PR has ever been one of their strong points. Talk Sport and the rest just jumping on the bandwagon. It’s trendy at the minute to give the police a kicking. I noticed the ‘pitch intruder’ thread on here the other day quite quickly developed into a ‘blame the police for not stopping it or responding quickly enough’ thread. Never develops into a discussion about binge drinking. Odd that. They do actually cover and report on many football related misdemeanours. To compare battering the shit out of his cat to drug or alcohol abuse isn't really comparable in my view. Binge drinking or drug taking is totally different subject to animal cruelty
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Post by callas12 on Feb 8, 2022 10:46:32 GMT
I assume because he was a cop. Can you imagine the outcry if they hadn’t? Like I said I think the police can prosecute in exceptional cases. They just choose to let the RSPCA deal with most cases as they have the necessary experience. The Police can't just prosecute coz its a police officer! It's not one rule for one and not for others. I'd say the scale this incident will reach far outways the that the cop, rightly or wrongly. The police didn't need to quickly wash their hands of it as they have clearly done. A dignified silence like they usually do in another circumstance would have been better. I'd be surprised of they don't end having to get involved and lead the prosecution in this matter
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 8, 2022 10:47:53 GMT
Pretty obvious West Ham are going to do jack shit. Fucking odious club but they won the world cup once so the BBC love them. It will be interesting to see how this is handled by the club, the media and the wider public, especially in the midst of current stories relating to footballers' physical abuse/rape of women. There's been condemnation from a lot of women's rights groups and sponsors with regard to Greenwood and Goodwillie. Will similar animal rights groups and also people in the public eye make a stand as well? Sadly, I think metalhead is right. Zouma will get a bit of grief but this will eventually be swept under the carpet. Animals are treated like second class creatures. If someone abuses an animal, for a lot of people whilst they may be disapproving it just wouldn't have the same impact as bringing harm to a human being.
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Post by felonious on Feb 8, 2022 10:49:10 GMT
The Met not taking any action, WTF ? From Met Police website...not really their thing. Animal cruelty Animal cruelty is when someone doesn’t care for or deliberately hurts an animal. It can include anything from physical violence, to deliberate mental distress or neglect, for example not feeding or cleaning an animal. If you see, or suspect, that a person may be treating an animal badly, whether this is physical violence, neglect or any other form of cruelty, you should report this to the RSPCA’s cruelty line (7am-10pm, seven days a week).
You can contact them on 0300 1234 999. The call will cost the same as any call to a UK landline number.
We work with the RSPCA to investigate cases of animal cruelty.In this particular case the RSPCA will be interested because of the publicity they will get in other cases you'll be lucky to get a response.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 8, 2022 10:54:01 GMT
Embarrassed that he was ever associated with us now. I was even before this!
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Post by callas12 on Feb 8, 2022 10:54:48 GMT
Regardless of who prosecutes Zouma, the Animal Rights Front will never let it lie and the general public will make his life a misery anyhow going forward & I'd say he's finished
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2022 10:58:16 GMT
Never develops into a discussion about binge drinking. Odd that. They do actually cover and report on many football related misdemeanours. To compare battering the shit out of his cat to drug or alcohol abuse isn't really comparable in my view. Binge drinking or drug taking is totally different subject to animal cruelty We're on about beating the shit out of humans because of alcohol though.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 8, 2022 11:00:27 GMT
I assume because he was a cop. Can you imagine the outcry if they hadn’t? Like I said I think the police can prosecute in exceptional cases. They just choose to let the RSPCA deal with most cases as they have the necessary experience. The Police can't just prosecute coz its a police officer! It's not one rule for one and not for others. I'd say the scale this incident will reach far outways the that the cop, rightly or wrongly. The police didn't need to quickly wash their hands of it as they have clearly done. A dignified silence like they usually do in another circumstance would have been better. I'd be surprised of they don't end having to get involved and lead the prosecution in this matter I suspect they probably can and do prosecute simply because he’s a cop mate. As I say the outrage caused by the police not investigating Zouma is bad imagine what it would be like if they’d not investigated one of their own. I assume in these circumstances they would have carried out a joint investigation with RSPCA and a charging decision would have been made by the CPS. Normally RSPCA stand alone cases are private prosecutions but are dealt with at Magistrates Courts just the same. In any case as interesting as this discussion is it’s distracting from this awful incident which should be prosecuted by one of the relevant authorities either the police or RSPCA. And I’m sure it will.
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Post by callas12 on Feb 8, 2022 11:03:44 GMT
They do actually cover and report on many football related misdemeanours. To compare battering the shit out of his cat to drug or alcohol abuse isn't really comparable in my view. Binge drinking or drug taking is totally different subject to animal cruelty We're on about beating the shit out of humans because of alcohol though. If you're referring to last week's footballer in the news article that's been done to death last week & dealt with accordingly by the authorities and the press. This morning we're discussing he Zouma pet attack, don't understand why you've brought binge drinking into this topic?!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 8, 2022 11:04:30 GMT
They do actually cover and report on many football related misdemeanours. To compare battering the shit out of his cat to drug or alcohol abuse isn't really comparable in my view. Binge drinking or drug taking is totally different subject to animal cruelty We're on about beating the shit out of humans because of alcohol though. Or raping them. Which is the subject of another thread on here directly caused by alcohol abuse.
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