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Post by chuffedstokie on Feb 16, 2022 19:09:22 GMT
I quite enjoyed my experience as Met constable, straight from school through the cadet system, Hendon then Notting Hill. Unfortunately it came to an abrupt end in the mid eighties after being stabbed at 3am by a black guy off his face on drugs and alcohol who didn't want to be arrested. Piece of cake job more people ought to try it. And i’m sure you got no support or condoning of the attacker from the press for what must have been a horrific experience and one that will never leave you. The police role is way too normalised when it’s far from normal. Hope you moved on from what happened mate. All that happened was I got picked up by a colleague taken to hospital for patching up and sat out the remainder of that night doing admin at the station until going home time. It was the second time it had happened and on reflection decided to leave the job before it happened again. Nothing ever came of it the guy was never found and I got another job. Long while ago now but there's so much you never forget. A lot of it pretty unpleasant.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 16, 2022 19:18:53 GMT
And i’m sure you got no support or condoning of the attacker from the press for what must have been a horrific experience and one that will never leave you. The police role is way too normalised when it’s far from normal. Hope you moved on from what happened mate. All that happened was I got picked up by a colleague taken to hospital for patching up and sat out the remainder of that night doing admin at the station until going home time. It was the second time it had happened and on reflection decided to leave the job before it happened again. Nothing ever came of it the guy was never found and I got another job. Long while ago now but there's so much you never forget. A lot of it pretty unpleasant. And that’s where it’s wrong. You should have been looked after by the Force for what happened to you. Counselling and a gold star service. Maybe those who constantly knock the police need to be aware of stories like yours and many others.
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Post by franklin on Feb 16, 2022 19:23:32 GMT
All that happened was I got picked up by a colleague taken to hospital for patching up and sat out the remainder of that night doing admin at the station until going home time. It was the second time it had happened and on reflection decided to leave the job before it happened again. Nothing ever came of it the guy was never found and I got another job. Long while ago now but there's so much you never forget. A lot of it pretty unpleasant. And that’s where it’s wrong. You should have been looked after by the Force for what happened to you. Counselling and a gold star service. Maybe those who constantly knock the police need to be aware of stories like yours and many others. Mate two of my old colleagues are in flint house atm after breakdowns.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 16, 2022 20:53:14 GMT
All that happened was I got picked up by a colleague taken to hospital for patching up and sat out the remainder of that night doing admin at the station until going home time. It was the second time it had happened and on reflection decided to leave the job before it happened again. Nothing ever came of it the guy was never found and I got another job. Long while ago now but there's so much you never forget. A lot of it pretty unpleasant. And that’s where it’s wrong. You should have been looked after by the Force for what happened to you. Counselling and a gold star service. Maybe those who constantly knock the police need to be aware of stories like yours and many others. Unfortunately the good deeds by genuine officers are quickly undone by the corruption.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 16, 2022 20:57:09 GMT
And that’s where it’s wrong. You should have been looked after by the Force for what happened to you. Counselling and a gold star service. Maybe those who constantly knock the police need to be aware of stories like yours and many others. Unfortunately the good deeds by genuine officers are quickly undone by the corruption. Can’t argue with that but believe me there’s no one that despises the corrupt officers more than the many good ones.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 16, 2022 21:04:27 GMT
Unfortunately the good deeds by genuine officers are quickly undone by the corruption. Can’t argue with that but believe me there’s no one that despises the corrupt officers more than the many good ones. Then root it out. If your statement had any validity then the police would be willing to submit to an independent competency evaluation. The problem is, we both know there's zero chance of that.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 16, 2022 21:10:18 GMT
Can’t argue with that but believe me there’s no one that despises the corrupt officers more than the many good ones. Then root it out. If your statement had any validity then the police would be willing to submit to an independent competency evaluation. The problem is, we both know there's zero chance of that. Who would make that decision? Wouldn’t it be the govt?
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Post by metalhead on Feb 16, 2022 22:22:31 GMT
Then root it out. If your statement had any validity then the police would be willing to submit to an independent competency evaluation. The problem is, we both know there's zero chance of that. Who would make that decision? Wouldn’t it be the govt? The government would lead it but the police would have to comply. This is why they will never break up the Met. The potential threat shouldn't be underestimated. You can't just break up a corrupt institution and expect them to sit and watch it happen.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 21, 2022 17:39:54 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Apr 21, 2022 6:44:12 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 21, 2022 7:58:29 GMT
The new commisionar will have a huge job on his hands. The change needs to start with recruitment. The worry is that right now people don’t want to join the Met because of their reputation. Does that therefore mean that they’ll be not too fussy about who they select. To resolve the issue over recruitment the job needs to be attractive current issues around degrees and studying in your probation aren’t helping.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 21, 2022 8:25:08 GMT
The new commisionar will have a huge job on his hands. The change needs to start with recruitment. The worry is that right now people don’t want to join the Met because of their reputation. Does that therefore mean that they’ll be not too fussy about who they select. To resolve the issue over recruitment the job needs to be attractive current issues around degrees and studying in your probation aren’t helping. I'm not sure they've ever been that fussy, have they? As I've said on here before, I worked with a woman who went through the Hendon police training college and was horrified by some of the knuckleheads who successfully got through. It's no surprise to me that these kind of things are becoming increasingly common. I suspect in the past there was very much a culture of turning a blind eye (which is precisely what happened with Couzens) and that if you complained you were the problem. Thankfully, that appears to be changing and the wrong 'uns will be increasingly weeded out. You have to hope that they are also spotted and discarded during recruitment too.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 21, 2022 21:52:04 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Apr 27, 2022 6:28:24 GMT
Another week, another bit of damning evidence to suggest the Met are corrupt. This time it's the athlete Bianca Williams who was stopped and searched with her partner.
6 officers facing gross misconduct.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 27, 2022 8:04:46 GMT
Another week, another bit of damning evidence to suggest the Met are corrupt. This time it's the athlete Bianca Williams who was stopped and searched with her partner. 6 officers facing gross misconduct. Facing? Doesn’t that mean they have been accused rather than found guilty? I guess time will tell once all evidence has been heard. On a more positive note. This is absolute class. How cool is he keeping despite being unarmed and filmed. Well done to the lads helping him out.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 27, 2022 8:37:44 GMT
Another week, another bit of damning evidence to suggest the Met are corrupt. This time it's the athlete Bianca Williams who was stopped and searched with her partner. 6 officers facing gross misconduct. Facing? Doesn’t that mean they have been accused rather than found guilty? I guess time will tell once all evidence has been heard. It does and its not corruption either, meanwhile stabbings rise and rise under Mr It's not my fault Mayor.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 27, 2022 9:18:19 GMT
Facing? Doesn’t that mean they have been accused rather than found guilty? I guess time will tell once all evidence has been heard. It does and its not corruption either, meanwhile stabbings rise and rise under Mr It's not my fault Mayor. Hmmm...so to summarise your position so far... London stabbings are the Mayor's responsibility because he's the Mayor of London Savile's non-prosecution was Keir Starmer's responsibility because he was DPP Boris can't be held responsible for all the parties he was at nor the actions of his staff Right
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 27, 2022 10:55:43 GMT
It does and its not corruption either, meanwhile stabbings rise and rise under Mr It's not my fault Mayor. Hmmm...so to summarise your position so far... London stabbings are the Mayor's responsibility because he's the Mayor of London Savile's non-prosecution was Keir Starmer's responsibility because he was DPP Boris can't be held responsible for all the parties he was at nor the actions of his staff Right The crazy world of FYD....
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 27, 2022 22:24:37 GMT
Looks like he’s made his mind up already even before the hearings been heard. I think it’s important that once the gross misconduct hearings been heard that the bodycam footage is released so people can make there own mind up.
I get the impression that the hearing is more a process than an indication of guilt or corruption. If I’m not mistaken the footage was reviewed by the ex commissioner and it was deemed that there was no case to answer which must indicate something. They should put the body cam out so people can make there own mind up. At the moment isn’t all that’s been released the footage from a camera phone?
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Post by callas12 on Apr 27, 2022 22:51:31 GMT
Looks like he’s made his mind up already even before the hearings been heard. I think it’s important that once the gross misconduct hearings been heard that the bodycam footage is released so people can make there own mind up. I get the impression that the hearing is more a process than an indication of guilt or corruption. If I’m not mistaken the footage was reviewed by the ex commissioner and it was deemed that there was no case to answer which must indicate something. They should put the body cam out so people can make there own mind up. At the moment isn’t all that’s been released the footage from a camera phone? You'd of thought & expected someone with a law degree, & someone who specialised in Human Rights would be an advocate of innocent until proven guilty after a fair impartial trial?! How bizarre he can forget all about his principles when it doesn't fit his agenda!
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Post by wannabee on Apr 28, 2022 1:00:07 GMT
Looks like he’s made his mind up already even before the hearings been heard. I think it’s important that once the gross misconduct hearings been heard that the bodycam footage is released so people can make there own mind up. I get the impression that the hearing is more a process than an indication of guilt or corruption. If I’m not mistaken the footage was reviewed by the ex commissioner and it was deemed that there was no case to answer which must indicate something. They should put the body cam out so people can make there own mind up. At the moment isn’t all that’s been released the footage from a camera phone? Maybe people just get tired of the institutionalised racism rampant within the Met and other constabulary This particular incident and now investigation arose out of a stop and search I have often heard people say if your Black your 10 times more likely to be a subject of Stop and Search They are wrong its ONLY 9 times www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/stop-and-search/latest
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 28, 2022 5:20:48 GMT
Looks like he’s made his mind up already even before the hearings been heard. I think it’s important that once the gross misconduct hearings been heard that the bodycam footage is released so people can make there own mind up. I get the impression that the hearing is more a process than an indication of guilt or corruption. If I’m not mistaken the footage was reviewed by the ex commissioner and it was deemed that there was no case to answer which must indicate something. They should put the body cam out so people can make there own mind up. At the moment isn’t all that’s been released the footage from a camera phone? Maybe people just get tired of the institutionalised racism rampant within the Met and other constabulary This particular incident and now investigation arose out of a stop and search I have often heard people say if your Black your 10 times more likely to be a subject of Stop and Search They are wrong its ONLY 9 times www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/stop-and-search/latestThere are definite issues within the Met around the conduct of officers that’s very clear. I’m not sure that this was the case with this stop but time will tell when all the facts come out. I’m almost certain however that unless all officers are found guilty of gross misconduct accusations of corruption will be thrown at the IOPC which is why the bodycam should be shown so that the public can make their own mind up whatever party is proven to be in the wrong. What I do find interesting is that the same prejudice that the Met are accused of is shown and thrown at them by the likes of Khan who thinks they must be guilty before the hearings even been heard from viewing a short video produced by one side without seeing the full picture. There’s a lot wrong with the Met that’s obvious as is that things need to change There’s however also a lot wrong with the publics perception too as is shown by the twitter post which it’s pretty clear demonstrates where the poster wanted to hang, draw and quarter the off duty officer for his actions and that she had a pre judged opinion. You can feel the disappointment when she realises what the off duty officers had done and why. Even reading the responses which were positive on the whole you can read the odd one from do-gooders supporting the lad who’d just committed a robbery saying the officer was heavy handed. Its a weird world we live in when someone would rather support a criminal than a hero just because of the job he does. Of course if there is a case to answer re the search they should be held accountable but from reading some comments off twitter from officers I think there’ll be a lot less searches going on due to officers fears of being suspended / losing there job when they actually believe they have reasonable grounds. So will knife crime / stabbings go up? In relation to your stop and search figures this is equally as important policyexchange.org.uk/publication/knife-crime-in-the-capital/The big work needs to be done in the communities in building relationships with the police and re gaining trust but I see it as follows Less stop and search - People will be happier particularly those carrying knives which will likely lead to more stabbings and murders. More stop and search - More hatred for the police and accusations of racism but potentially less stabbings.
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Post by foster on Apr 28, 2022 8:36:46 GMT
Looks like he’s made his mind up already even before the hearings been heard. I think it’s important that once the gross misconduct hearings been heard that the bodycam footage is released so people can make there own mind up. I get the impression that the hearing is more a process than an indication of guilt or corruption. If I’m not mistaken the footage was reviewed by the ex commissioner and it was deemed that there was no case to answer which must indicate something. They should put the body cam out so people can make there own mind up. At the moment isn’t all that’s been released the footage from a camera phone? Maybe people just get tired of the institutionalised racism rampant within the Met and other constabulary This particular incident and now investigation arose out of a stop and search I have often heard people say if your Black your 10 times more likely to be a subject of Stop and Search They are wrong its ONLY 9 times www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/stop-and-search/latestStop and search stats are meaningless if there's no real context behind it. All we hear about is how minority groups are being targeted, with no explanation why. It's too simple. Of all those stop and searches what percentage from each ethnic group was found to have possession of weapons or drugs? Note that Black people are 3x more likely to be arrested. www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest#by-ethnicityAlso to note is that in every police constabulary (not only the MET), black people were more likely than white to be arrested. The MET isn't the highest either. www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2021"Homicide rates across all ethnic groups over the last three years have increased compared with the three-year period to year ending March 2015. The homicide rate for Black victims has shown the biggest increase, from 28.0 to 50.5 per million population. This compares with the rate for White victims, which increased from 8.0 to 8.5 per million population""Differences in homicide rates by ethnicity are likely to be influenced by variations in demographic and socioeconomic indicators across ethnic groups."If (in the main) you're from a rougher neighbourhood, hang around in gangs, and dress and act like gangsters, then it makes sense that you're more likely to be stopped and searched. The gang culture that's rife in ethnic minority neighbourhoods plays a role in all of this. It's telling that there are plenty of stats readily available on the ethnicity of victims, but not much on the ethnicity of perpetrators. Below is about the only official report I could find (in 10 mins of looking) and I've pasted some snippets from it that a) reinforce the gang culture that exists, b) disprove the overstated racism claims that people throw at police and c) support the higher stop and search and arrest rates of minority ethnic groups. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1037903/Statistics_on_Ethnicity_and_the_Criminal_Justice_Sysytem_2020.pdfThe reoffending rate of adults was highest for those aged 18-20 for ethnic minority groups. The reoffending rate for Black adult offenders was highest for 18-20 year olds at 35%.
Between 2017/18 and 2019/20, almost half (49%) of homicide victims aged 15 to 17 and 37% of victims aged 18 to 20 were from the Black ethnic group.
London showed a markedly different pattern than the rest of England and Wales. There were a total of 426 homicides in London, where ethnicity of the victim was recorded, in the three year period (2017/18 to 2019/20). This was the only region in which homicide victims were more likely to be from the Black ethnic group (42%)
The location in which a homicide was committed showed marked differences between ethnic groups. In the three-year period from 2017/18 to 2019/20, the most frequent location for homicides with White or Asian victims was in and around the house (53% and 41%, respectively), whereas those with victims from Black or Other ethnic groups were more likely to take place on the street (including footpaths/alleyways; 60% and 48%, respectively).
A sharp instrument was the most frequent apparent method of killing across most ethnic groups, accounting for 40% of all homicides in the period between 2017/18 and 2019/20. This method accounted for 69% of homicides with Black victims, but only 35% of those with White victims.
In 2020, Black and Mixed ethnic groups were particularly overrepresented in the proportion of prosecutions for possession of weapons offences, this has remained largely unchanged from 2016
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Post by wannabee on Apr 28, 2022 9:55:34 GMT
There are definite issues within the Met around the conduct of officers that’s very clear. I’m not sure that this was the case with this stop but time will tell when all the facts come out. I’m almost certain however that unless all officers are found guilty of gross misconduct accusations of corruption will be thrown at the IOPC which is why the bodycam should be shown so that the public can make their own mind up whatever party is proven to be in the wrong. What I do find interesting is that the same prejudice that the Met are accused of is shown and thrown at them by the likes of Khan who thinks they must be guilty before the hearings even been heard from viewing a short video produced by one side without seeing the full picture. There’s a lot wrong with the Met that’s obvious as is that things need to change There’s however also a lot wrong with the publics perception too as is shown by the twitter post which it’s pretty clear demonstrates where the poster wanted to hang, draw and quarter the off duty officer for his actions and that she had a pre judged opinion. You can feel the disappointment when she realises what the off duty officers had done and why. Even reading the responses which were positive on the whole you can read the odd one from do-gooders supporting the lad who’d just committed a robbery saying the officer was heavy handed. Its a weird world we live in when someone would rather support a criminal than a hero just because of the job he does. Of course if there is a case to answer re the search they should be held accountable but from reading some comments off twitter from officers I think there’ll be a lot less searches going on due to officers fears of being suspended / losing there job when they actually believe they have reasonable grounds. So will knife crime / stabbings go up? In relation to your stop and search figures this is equally as important policyexchange.org.uk/publication/knife-crime-in-the-capital/The big work needs to be done in the communities in building relationships with the police and re gaining trust but I see it as follows Less stop and search - People will be happier particularly those carrying knives which will likely lead to more stabbings and murders. More stop and search - More hatred for the police and accusations of racism but potentially less stabbings. I will readily hold my hands up and say my knowledge of this problem or more importantly how to fix it is very limited Perhaps that lack of knowledge allows me to ask stupid questions, which on reflection are maybe not that stupid Of course the problem is complex and multifaceted but whatever is being done now is simply not working Letc be honest here we are talking about the London Black Community Policing is about consent, to the average Black teenager/young adult "50" in no way resembles anyone in their community It's not PC to say but a large proportion grow up without a full time Male role model in their lives A decade+ of austerity has decimated community projects and facilities Role models within the community I.e. those will apparent wealth are drug dealers Each time a racist incident involving the Met occurs, if there is an inquiry the conclusion is a few bad apples. The fact an orchard has grown without any real attempt to resolve fundamental issues within The Met further alienates the community Knife crime/deaths of Black teenagers in London is appalling 27 last year I believe As you pose its a dilemma if knifes aren't taken off the streets more lives will be lost To find the knives you stop and search which leads to resentment. Vicious circle My understanding of how Glasgow solved its knife crime issue was community based. Now that sounds too simplistic and it is but to attempt to solve the issue you must first get the buy in from the community, identify leaders/role models from within And invest resources Educational, Recreational, Social, Work Training Skills and Experience etc Not a quick or cheap fix but the return if successful is immense Of course some will opt for the easy short life drugs route But to turn it around you need to show there are real alternatives
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 28, 2022 10:43:19 GMT
There are definite issues within the Met around the conduct of officers that’s very clear. I’m not sure that this was the case with this stop but time will tell when all the facts come out. I’m almost certain however that unless all officers are found guilty of gross misconduct accusations of corruption will be thrown at the IOPC which is why the bodycam should be shown so that the public can make their own mind up whatever party is proven to be in the wrong. What I do find interesting is that the same prejudice that the Met are accused of is shown and thrown at them by the likes of Khan who thinks they must be guilty before the hearings even been heard from viewing a short video produced by one side without seeing the full picture. There’s a lot wrong with the Met that’s obvious as is that things need to change There’s however also a lot wrong with the publics perception too as is shown by the twitter post which it’s pretty clear demonstrates where the poster wanted to hang, draw and quarter the off duty officer for his actions and that she had a pre judged opinion. You can feel the disappointment when she realises what the off duty officers had done and why. Even reading the responses which were positive on the whole you can read the odd one from do-gooders supporting the lad who’d just committed a robbery saying the officer was heavy handed. Its a weird world we live in when someone would rather support a criminal than a hero just because of the job he does. Of course if there is a case to answer re the search they should be held accountable but from reading some comments off twitter from officers I think there’ll be a lot less searches going on due to officers fears of being suspended / losing there job when they actually believe they have reasonable grounds. So will knife crime / stabbings go up? In relation to your stop and search figures this is equally as important policyexchange.org.uk/publication/knife-crime-in-the-capital/The big work needs to be done in the communities in building relationships with the police and re gaining trust but I see it as follows Less stop and search - People will be happier particularly those carrying knives which will likely lead to more stabbings and murders. More stop and search - More hatred for the police and accusations of racism but potentially less stabbings. I will readily hold my hands up and say my knowledge of this problem or more importantly how to fix it is very limited Perhaps that lack of knowledge allows me to ask stupid questions, which on reflection are maybe not that stupid Of course the problem is complex and multifaceted but whatever is being done now is simply not working Letc be honest here we are talking about the London Black Community Policing is about consent, to the average Black teenager/young adult "50" in no way resembles anyone in their community It's not PC to say but a large proportion grow up without a full time Male role model in their lives A decade+ of austerity has decimated community projects and facilities Role models within the community I.e. those will apparent wealth are drug dealers Each time a racist incident involving the Met occurs, if there is an inquiry the conclusion is a few bad apples. The fact an orchard has grown without any real attempt to resolve fundamental issues within The Met further alienates the community Knife crime/deaths of Black teenagers in London is appalling 27 last year I believe As you pose its a dilemma if knifes aren't taken off the streets more lives will be lost To find the knives you stop and search which leads to resentment. Vicious circle My understanding of how Glasgow solved its knife crime issue was community based. Now that sounds too simplistic and it is but to attempt to solve the issue you must first get the buy in from the community, identify leaders/role models from within And invest resources Educational, Recreational, Social, Work Training Skills and Experience etc Not a quick or cheap fix but the return if successful is immense Of course some will opt for the easy short life drugs route But to turn it around you need to show there are real alternatives excellent response
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Post by hoffgreen on Apr 28, 2022 15:06:29 GMT
This particular incident and now investigation arose out of a stop and search I have often heard people say if your Black your 10 times more likely to be a subject of Stop and Search They are wrong its ONLY 9 times www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/stop-and-search/latest[/quote]Stop and search stats are meaningless if there's no real context behind it. All we hear about is how minority groups are being targeted, with no explanation why. It's too simple. Of all those stop and searches what percentage from each ethnic group was found to have possession of weapons or drugs? Note that Black people are 3x more likely to be arrested. www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest#by-ethnicityAlso to note is that in every police constabulary (not only the MET), black people were more likely than white to be arrested. The MET isn't the highest either. www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2021"Homicide rates across all ethnic groups over the last three years have increased compared with the three-year period to year ending March 2015. The homicide rate for Black victims has shown the biggest increase, from 28.0 to 50.5 per million population. This compares with the rate for White victims, which increased from 8.0 to 8.5 per million population""Differences in homicide rates by ethnicity are likely to be influenced by variations in demographic and socioeconomic indicators across ethnic groups."If (in the main) you're from a rougher neighbourhood, hang around in gangs, and dress and act like gangsters, then it makes sense that you're more likely to be stopped and searched. The gang culture that's rife in ethnic minority neighbourhoods plays a role in all of this. It's telling that there are plenty of stats readily available on the ethnicity of victims, but not much on the ethnicity of perpetrators. Below is about the only official report I could find (in 10 mins of looking) and I've pasted some snippets from it that a) reinforce the gang culture that exists, b) disprove the overstated racism claims that people throw at police and c) support the higher stop and search and arrest rates of minority ethnic groups. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1037903/Statistics_on_Ethnicity_and_the_Criminal_Justice_Sysytem_2020.pdfThe reoffending rate of adults was highest for those aged 18-20 for ethnic minority groups. The reoffending rate for Black adult offenders was highest for 18-20 year olds at 35%.
Between 2017/18 and 2019/20, almost half (49%) of homicide victims aged 15 to 17 and 37% of victims aged 18 to 20 were from the Black ethnic group.
London showed a markedly different pattern than the rest of England and Wales. There were a total of 426 homicides in London, where ethnicity of the victim was recorded, in the three year period (2017/18 to 2019/20). This was the only region in which homicide victims were more likely to be from the Black ethnic group (42%)
The location in which a homicide was committed showed marked differences between ethnic groups. In the three-year period from 2017/18 to 2019/20, the most frequent location for homicides with White or Asian victims was in and around the house (53% and 41%, respectively), whereas those with victims from Black or Other ethnic groups were more likely to take place on the street (including footpaths/alleyways; 60% and 48%, respectively).
A sharp instrument was the most frequent apparent method of killing across most ethnic groups, accounting for 40% of all homicides in the period between 2017/18 and 2019/20. This method accounted for 69% of homicides with Black victims, but only 35% of those with White victims.
In 2020, Black and Mixed ethnic groups were particularly overrepresented in the proportion of prosecutions for possession of weapons offences, this has remained largely unchanged from 2016
[/quote] Stop noticing facts you racist bigot!
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Post by metalhead on Jun 2, 2022 8:27:06 GMT
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Post by xchpotter on Jun 5, 2022 18:13:26 GMT
The below video gives some context, but he was armed with a knife. Not sure what’s going to happen considering the officer discharging the Taser was of the same ethnicity……thought there would’ve been outrage by now.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 5, 2022 20:39:56 GMT
Having seen the video the male didn’t “fall” which interestingly is the route some of the media were going down even after seeing the footage. There’s plenty that the Met do wrong but this isn’t the case in my opinion with this tragic incident. The male clearly ran off after being tasered twice and jumped off the bridge. Thankfully the incident was caught by a passing motorist which should hopefully prevent the press going to town on the officers who from what I saw dealt with the incident as well as they could have done. I’m sure there’s some reporters / politicians who’ll be devastated they can’t go down the normal route that fits their agenda. By all accounts he was on the bridge with a screwdriver acting in a threatening manner. I’d say the bigger question is around what support was the poor devil getting re his mental health. As is often the case these sort of incidents are preventable if the person gets the right support from the right agencies. RIP to the chap that died and here’s hoping the officers get the support they need for trying to do the right thing.
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