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Ince
Feb 20, 2022 23:54:34 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 20, 2022 23:54:34 GMT
No it’s not. He clearly was one of our best players in January. I thought he was our best. A daft deal to swap a game changer for a centre back you don’t need. He might have been among our better players in January, looking for a new contract. Before that were 2½ years of virtual refusal to work for the team on the pitch. So good riddance. Who cares? He was making a difference and we swapped that for a centre back that we don’t need. Makes no sense.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 0:01:47 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 21, 2022 0:01:47 GMT
He might have been among our better players in January, looking for a new contract. Before that were 2½ years of virtual refusal to work for the team on the pitch. So good riddance. Who cares? He was making a difference and we swapped that for a centre back that we don’t need. Makes no sense. We might need him yet, such as when the 3 at the back is resumed, it's just a matter of time before it does.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 0:04:11 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 0:04:11 GMT
Who cares? He was making a difference and we swapped that for a centre back that we don’t need. Makes no sense. We might need him yet, such as when the 3 at the back is resumed, it's just a matter of time before it does. We shouldn’t be resuming that.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 0:04:24 GMT
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Post by samba :) on Feb 21, 2022 0:04:24 GMT
He might have been among our better players in January, looking for a new contract. Before that were 2½ years of virtual refusal to work for the team on the pitch. So good riddance. Who cares? He was making a difference and we swapped that for a centre back that we don’t need. Makes no sense. was he making a difference to try and force a move?
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 0:09:23 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 0:09:23 GMT
Who cares? He was making a difference and we swapped that for a centre back that we don’t need. Makes no sense. was he making a difference to try and force a move? I think he was playing for a contract for sure. That wouldn’t have changed had he not moved in Jan imo. It’s the same situation. I don’t give a shit why a player is playing well either. And I wouldn’t have give him a new contract had he scored 10 goals between now and the summer. But I do think the ease we let an attacking player go for a defender. And all for the same money allegedly? Makes no sense.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 0:11:31 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 21, 2022 0:11:31 GMT
We might need him yet, such as when the 3 at the back is resumed, it's just a matter of time before it does. We shouldn’t be resuming that. We will.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 0:12:37 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 0:12:37 GMT
We shouldn’t be resuming that. We will. There’s absolutely no need for it. And if we do then Moore still shouldn’t be in the starting XI
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 0:29:39 GMT
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 21, 2022 0:29:39 GMT
There’s absolutely no need for it. And if we do then Moore still shouldn’t be in the starting XI If he does then I can see him being shown the door come end of May.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 7:54:12 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 21, 2022 7:54:12 GMT
There’s absolutely no need for it. And if we do then Moore still shouldn’t be in the starting XI It's the manager's favourite system, so once we become too badly exposed with the two non-fullback fullbacks, he will return to it. And even if we don't, O'Neill has to justify signing Moore bt playing him every now and then, that is, unless he's already decided not to carry on with him after his loan period, which would then make signing him look even more suspect.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 7:58:56 GMT
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Post by Gods on Feb 21, 2022 7:58:56 GMT
He might have been among our better players in January, looking for a new contract. Before that were 2½ years of virtual refusal to work for the team on the pitch. So good riddance. Who cares? He was making a difference and we swapped that for a centre back that we don’t need. Makes no sense. Nuts wasn't it!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 21, 2022 8:13:58 GMT
Pound for pound one of the worst signings in our history, and a couple of decent performances in January to try and secure a move doesn’t change that. Good riddance……
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 8:55:27 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 21, 2022 8:55:27 GMT
Good riddInce
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 21, 2022 9:14:26 GMT
Good riddance indeed and pretty much the poster boy, post relegation that personified everything that was wrong with us.
Expensive, lazy, half arsed. Pretty much summed up our transfer business in a nutshell.
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Post by fraybentos on Feb 21, 2022 9:17:45 GMT
Good riddance indeed and pretty much the poster boy, post relegation that personified everything that was wrong with us. Expensive, lazy, half arsed. Pretty much summed up our transfer business in a nutshell. summed him up perfectly
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Post by Scouse on Feb 21, 2022 10:56:06 GMT
was he making a difference to try and force a move? I think he was playing for a contract for sure. That wouldn’t have changed had he not moved in Jan imo. It’s the same situation. I don’t give a shit why a player is playing well either. And I wouldn’t have give him a new contract had he scored 10 goals between now and the summer. But I do think the ease we let an attacking player go for a defender. And all for the same money allegedly? Makes no sense. Having made it clear he wouldn’t be in our plans next season , and therefore wouldn’t be offered a new contract , he was indeed playing ( well ) for a contract ..in the hope he’d get a trial somewhere / anywhere , that might offer him a contract ..that club lo and behold was Reading ..and who rolls up just a few days later at Reading Dream on if you think he’d of continued playing well for us if we effectively blocked his path to a possible new contract elsewhere TBH he reminds me of a plumber or Electrician who’s followed his dad into the trade as his dad told him there’s good money to be made .decent worker, but his heart isn’t in it and he’d rather be doing anything else than being a sparks or plumber , but doesn’t want to give up the money , so goes through the motions ..without ever taking on the really dirty jobs .. that’s Ince to a tee ..decent but his heart isn’t in the business that’s paying him
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 10:57:16 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 10:57:16 GMT
I think he was playing for a contract for sure. That wouldn’t have changed had he not moved in Jan imo. It’s the same situation. I don’t give a shit why a player is playing well either. And I wouldn’t have give him a new contract had he scored 10 goals between now and the summer. But I do think the ease we let an attacking player go for a defender. And all for the same money allegedly? Makes no sense. Having made it clear he wouldn’t be in our plans next season , and therefore wouldn’t be offered a new contract , he was indeed playing ( well ) for a contract ..in the hope he’d get a trial somewhere / anywhere , that might offer him a contract ..that club lo and behold was Reading ..and who rolls up just a few days later at Reading Dream on if you think he’d of continued playing well for us if we effectively blocked his path to a possible new contract elsewhere TBH he reminds me of a plumber or Electrician who’s followed his dad into the trade as his dad told him there’s good money to be made .decent worker, but his heart isn’t in it and he’d rather be doing anything else than being a sparks or plumber , but doesn’t want to give up the money , so goes through the motions ..without ever taking on the really dirty jobs .. that’s Ince to a tee ..decent but his heart isn’t in the business that’s paying him He hasn’t got a new contract there though 🤷♂️
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 11:34:32 GMT
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Post by Scouse on Feb 21, 2022 11:34:32 GMT
Having made it clear he wouldn’t be in our plans next season , and therefore wouldn’t be offered a new contract , he was indeed playing ( well ) for a contract ..in the hope he’d get a trial somewhere / anywhere , that might offer him a contract ..that club lo and behold was Reading ..and who rolls up just a few days later at Reading Dream on if you think he’d of continued playing well for us if we effectively blocked his path to a possible new contract elsewhere TBH he reminds me of a plumber or Electrician who’s followed his dad into the trade as his dad told him there’s good money to be made .decent worker, but his heart isn’t in it and he’d rather be doing anything else than being a sparks or plumber , but doesn’t want to give up the money , so goes through the motions ..without ever taking on the really dirty jobs .. that’s Ince to a tee ..decent but his heart isn’t in the business that’s paying him He hasn’t got a new contract there though 🤷♂️ I haven’t said he has .. His move is in the hope of getting one . , he’s effectively on trial there ..do well and he might get a contract from them .especially with his dad there ..did he know of that imminent change.. do well for us and he still wasn’t getting one TBH I quite liked him , he has ability , but IMHO doesn’t appear to have the appetite for the game , hence the analogy above , he’d often present the ball to the opposition preferring it to be taken off his toe rather than shield it and risk getting clattered ..
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 11:43:17 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 11:43:17 GMT
He hasn’t got a new contract there though 🤷♂️ I haven’t said he has .. His move is in the hope of getting one . , he’s effectively on trial there ..do well and he might get a contract from them .especially with his dad there ..did he know of that imminent change.. do well for us and he still wasn’t getting one TBH I quite liked him , he has ability , but IMHO doesn’t appear to have the appetite for the game , he’d often present the ball to the opposition preferring it to be taken off his toe rather than shield it and risk getting clattered .. That would have been the same had he stayed here though? Maybe a little less football yes but he still would have been used with the injuries we get.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 11:50:48 GMT
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Post by Scouse on Feb 21, 2022 11:50:48 GMT
I haven’t said he has .. His move is in the hope of getting one . , he’s effectively on trial there ..do well and he might get a contract from them .especially with his dad there ..did he know of that imminent change.. do well for us and he still wasn’t getting one TBH I quite liked him , he has ability , but IMHO doesn’t appear to have the appetite for the game , he’d often present the ball to the opposition preferring it to be taken off his toe rather than shield it and risk getting clattered .. That would have been the same had he stayed here though? Maybe a little less football yes but he still would have been used with the injuries we get. He’s on trial , and therefore one step ahead of the rush in May/June when due to Covid and the collapse of the transfer market literally hundreds of players will be scrambling around looking for clubs Could he have done us a job , possibly , but I don’t think he’d have taken kindly if an offer of a trial was on the table and we blocked it ..especially as I presume word behind the scenes was his dad would soon rock up at Reading
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 12:20:59 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 12:20:59 GMT
That would have been the same had he stayed here though? Maybe a little less football yes but he still would have been used with the injuries we get. He’s on trial , and therefore one step ahead of the rush in May/June when due to Covid and the collapse of the transfer market literally hundreds of players will be scrambling around looking for clubs Could he have done us a job , possibly , but I don’t think he’d have taken kindly if an offer of a trial was on the table and we blocked it ..especially as I presume word behind the scenes was his dad would soon rock up at Reading On trial at a club who will do well not to go down. I don't overly buy it sorry. I just don't see the point in the deal for us either? We didn't need another CB. We seem to do this in January, get rid of a useful of an attacking option for no good reason.
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Post by tqstokie on Feb 21, 2022 12:23:56 GMT
Who plays CB if Jagielka gets injured? It was a good deal, Ince had been robbing a living for far too long.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 12:30:42 GMT
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 21, 2022 12:30:42 GMT
I’d have swapped Ince for a fucking Caramac, and I don’t even like them.
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 21, 2022 12:46:18 GMT
I’d have swapped Ince for a fucking Caramac, and I don’t even like them. Can I have it then, I love them.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 13:30:53 GMT
Post by deadwait on Feb 21, 2022 13:30:53 GMT
I know that I am in the minority on this subject, but I agree with everything that Bayern has said on this matter. Couldn't have put it better myself!
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 13:38:35 GMT
Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 21, 2022 13:38:35 GMT
He’s on trial , and therefore one step ahead of the rush in May/June when due to Covid and the collapse of the transfer market literally hundreds of players will be scrambling around looking for clubs Could he have done us a job , possibly , but I don’t think he’d have taken kindly if an offer of a trial was on the table and we blocked it ..especially as I presume word behind the scenes was his dad would soon rock up at Reading On trial at a club who will do well not to go down. I don't overly buy it sorry. I just don't see the point in the deal for us either? We didn't need another CB. We seem to do this in January, get rid of a useful of an attacking option for no good reason. Just out of interest which useful attacking option did we get rid of in January 2021?
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 13:40:10 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 13:40:10 GMT
On trial at a club who will do well not to go down. I don't overly buy it sorry. I just don't see the point in the deal for us either? We didn't need another CB. We seem to do this in January, get rid of a useful of an attacking option for no good reason. Just out of interest which useful attacking option did we get rid of in January 2021? Super Flo And didn't we get rid of Gregory but keep Vokes? I know Gregory is shit but he's better than Vokes and we didn't sign another striker? I thought it was poor and unnecessary.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 21, 2022 13:53:02 GMT
Just out of interest which useful attacking option did we get rid of in January 2021? Super Flo And didn't we get rid of Gregory but keep Vokes? I know Gregory is shit but he's better than Vokes and we didn't sign another striker? I thought it was poor and unnecessary. I believe we had to get rid of one or the other because of their wages. Gregory had an option, no fucker wanted Vokes. That was why. 'Super Flo'? Either way hardly 'useful' were they?
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 13:57:27 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 13:57:27 GMT
Super Flo And didn't we get rid of Gregory but keep Vokes? I know Gregory is shit but he's better than Vokes and we didn't sign another striker? I thought it was poor and unnecessary. I believe we had to get rid of one or the other because of their wages. Gregory had an option, no fucker wanted Vokes. That was why. 'Super Flo'? Either way hardly 'useful' were they? I think both were useful to a degree and that degree being better than what was left here (the two loanees and Vokes). It just felt like part of giving up again.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 21, 2022 13:59:46 GMT
I believe we had to get rid of one or the other because of their wages. Gregory had an option, no fucker wanted Vokes. That was why. 'Super Flo'? Either way hardly 'useful' were they? I think both were useful to a degree and that degree being better than what was left here (the two loanees and Vokes). It just felt like part of giving up again. Which is what I'm doing now. Have a nice day.
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Ince
Feb 21, 2022 14:21:13 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 14:21:13 GMT
I think both were useful to a degree and that degree being better than what was left here (the two loanees and Vokes). It just felt like part of giving up again. Which is what I'm doing now. Have a nice day. I can see why you like MON so much!
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