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Post by Bombus on Jan 27, 2022 6:15:54 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 27, 2022 6:19:35 GMT
At the end of the day football is a results business and 9/10 managers get the sack because of them , he should be judged at the end of the season and if we are not top 6 then he should go
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 27, 2022 6:49:08 GMT
Frank Lampard's Stoke City! Id give my left bollock for lampard to be in the dugout next week
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 27, 2022 6:54:06 GMT
So far this season is a repeat of last.
That’s poor.
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Post by Block 26 on Jan 27, 2022 7:00:11 GMT
So far this season is a repeat of last. That’s poor. I think a lot of people are forgetting about the decline last season as fans weren’t aloud in to watch. Week in week out the fans are silenced on what we’re witnessing on the field… if the club has any ambition then it’s time to go MON.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 7:23:57 GMT
I know in not watching live at the ground anymore but I did for nigh on 50 years. Their still my club. I'm hurting watching this shit. What is O,Neill thinking when we set up to pass around the back with players who can’t do it. Harwood-Bellis,Fox,Chester etc certainly cannot. We then have Baker as the only one ready to accept the ball ,as Clucas doesnt want it and Allen incapabable of receiving and passing it so across it goes to the wingabacks The wing backs either hit it down the line and Brown missscontrols or it goes backwards into trouble as the back three play amongst themselves. We are so slow & predictable in our play. Hence why we’ve had si many matches in the past couple of months where we have created absolutely nothing.Not even a shot on goal. The squad we have,its strengths are to attack yet we mostly have seven players in our own half. Oneil produces this negative shit. Other teams players on a pittance compared to ours. Get him gone now were Stoke City. FC not Wycombe fuckin Wanderers. So you fully expected to be pushing for the play offs this season? Even though we know we've been hit with injuries and have been limited to what players when can bring in due to FFP. For me this was always a rebuilding season and to see improvement on the last few seasons, which I believe we have. If you really want him gone then you need your head looking at. And one serious question... Who would you bring in that's available right now?
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Post by werrington on Jan 27, 2022 7:29:06 GMT
I know in not watching live at the ground anymore but I did for nigh on 50 years. Their still my club. I'm hurting watching this shit. What is O,Neill thinking when we set up to pass around the back with players who can’t do it. Harwood-Bellis,Fox,Chester etc certainly cannot. We then have Baker as the only one ready to accept the ball ,as Clucas doesnt want it and Allen incapabable of receiving and passing it so across it goes to the wingabacks The wing backs either hit it down the line and Brown missscontrols or it goes backwards into trouble as the back three play amongst themselves. We are so slow & predictable in our play. Hence why we’ve had si many matches in the past couple of months where we have created absolutely nothing.Not even a shot on goal. The squad we have,its strengths are to attack yet we mostly have seven players in our own half. Oneil produces this negative shit. Other teams players on a pittance compared to ours. Get him gone now were Stoke City. FC not Wycombe fuckin Wanderers. So you fully expected to be pushing for the play offs this season? Even though we know we've been hit with injuries and have been limited to what players when can bring in due to FFP. For me this was always a rebuilding season and to see improvement on the last few seasons, which I believe we have. If you really want him gone then you need your head looking at. And one serious question... Who would you bring in that's available right now? Managers are always available, even those in a current position
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 27, 2022 7:31:43 GMT
I know in not watching live at the ground anymore but I did for nigh on 50 years. Their still my club. I'm hurting watching this shit. What is O,Neill thinking when we set up to pass around the back with players who can’t do it. Harwood-Bellis,Fox,Chester etc certainly cannot. We then have Baker as the only one ready to accept the ball ,as Clucas doesnt want it and Allen incapabable of receiving and passing it so across it goes to the wingabacks The wing backs either hit it down the line and Brown missscontrols or it goes backwards into trouble as the back three play amongst themselves. We are so slow & predictable in our play. Hence why we’ve had si many matches in the past couple of months where we have created absolutely nothing.Not even a shot on goal. The squad we have,its strengths are to attack yet we mostly have seven players in our own half. Oneil produces this negative shit. Other teams players on a pittance compared to ours. Get him gone now were Stoke City. FC not Wycombe fuckin Wanderers. So you fully expected to be pushing for the play offs this season? Even though we know we've been hit with injuries and have been limited to what players when can bring in due to FFP. For me this was always a rebuilding season and to see improvement on the last few seasons, which I believe we have. If you really want him gone then you need your head looking at. And one serious question... Who would you bring in that's available right now? Steve Bruce We haven’t improved from last season it’s a carbon copy
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Post by wherty on Jan 27, 2022 7:45:07 GMT
So you fully expected to be pushing for the play offs this season? Even though we know we've been hit with injuries and have been limited to what players when can bring in due to FFP. For me this was always a rebuilding season and to see improvement on the last few seasons, which I believe we have. If you really want him gone then you need your head looking at. And one serious question... Who would you bring in that's available right now? Managers are always available, even those in a current position So we have to sell before we can even get free transfers or loans in and you think we're in a position to pay a club between 1 an 2 million in compensation?
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 27, 2022 7:50:35 GMT
So as a club we have got ourselves into a poor financial situation, through poor recruitment on top of poor recruitment, that we can not afford to potentially getting rid of an underperforming manager due to lack of money?. So potentially a third mid to lower table finish is acceptable?.
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Post by mowlee on Jan 27, 2022 7:56:27 GMT
So as a club we have got ourselves into a poor financial situation, through poor recruitment on top of poor recruitment, that we can not afford to potentially getting rid of an underperforming manager due to lack of money?. So potentially a third mid to lower table finish is acceptable?. am sure at the end of this season the ffp 3 year is reset.. so the board will make a decision at that point an he will be gone.. we can’t have a 4th mid table finish
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Post by werrington on Jan 27, 2022 8:08:39 GMT
Managers are always available, even those in a current position So we have to sell before we can even get free transfers or loans in and you think we're in a position to pay a club between 1 an 2 million in compensation? Where did I say that? Also why does it have to be somebody whose “a face”? There’s many excellent coaches at u23 level who need a chance
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Post by questionable on Jan 27, 2022 8:20:34 GMT
It’s not as if there’s managers out there who’d relish the change to manage us, our thinking is taking information from a bloke at Bet365 and Paul Lambert being dragged from god knows where.
The entire set up at the club is a farce from match day experience to recruitment, time and time again.
MON hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing, a home loss to Wigan surely has to be his final game.
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Post by robrigo on Jan 27, 2022 8:30:10 GMT
I’m sort of with the OP on this one and can see where they are coming from. But I don’t think he should go now. What’s the point? The season is a rubber duck once again. I’d give him to the end of the season and look at it properly then. Trying to look at it objectively. He deserves a chance to rectify it. Can we see any shoots of progress between now and the end of the season which warrants him staying on for another season?
Personally I think this is his ceiling. I don’t think he’s got the minerals or tactical know how to ever get us promoted. And we’ll be having the same conversations this time next year as the team fades once again. It will be more of the same. But he does deserve a chance to prove himself. That starts now and finished when the season ends. However in saying all that I think he won’t be quite be able to do it and a change will be required in May. The club won’t do it though!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 8:35:03 GMT
Much less quality? I'd seriously doubt that, football isn't played on paper you know. Also, I've got to say, he also turned them into a complete embarrassment of a Premier League team once they went up, and not just once. I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole if I was appointing a new manager at Stoke. He lost his two of his most integral players in Skipp and Buendia. The replacements didn't fill the gaps and his preferred style of play, the 4-2-3-1 suffered as a result. Pity he's in a job, because I think the players we currently have best suit a 4-2-3-1 and you need a top manager like Farke who knows how to slot our players into that formation. You're not affording O'Neill the excuses of losing players to injury. You wouldn't be so forthcoming if Farke had the same record with us in the Premier League that he had twice with Norwich. Edit: I'm not saying that you should make excuses for O'Neill by the way.
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Post by sheds1862 on Jan 27, 2022 8:37:25 GMT
Be a start if people could spell his name correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 8:38:00 GMT
So you fully expected to be pushing for the play offs this season? Even though we know we've been hit with injuries and have been limited to what players when can bring in due to FFP. For me this was always a rebuilding season and to see improvement on the last few seasons, which I believe we have. If you really want him gone then you need your head looking at. And one serious question... Who would you bring in that's available right now? Steve Bruce We haven’t improved from last season it’s a carbon copy Steve Bruce
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Post by 16quidachuck on Jan 27, 2022 8:40:06 GMT
So far this season is a repeat of last. That’s poor. We may even be in a worse position at this stage than we were in 2018/19. I'm not 100% on that but i'd imagine it's close...sadly
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 8:42:42 GMT
At the end of the day football is a results business and 9/10 managers get the sack because of them , he should be judged at the end of the season and if we are not top 6 then he should go I take it you tipped us for the play-offs or above at the start of the season then?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 27, 2022 8:43:22 GMT
Steve Bruce We haven’t improved from last season it’s a carbon copy Steve Bruce Steve Bruce would do better than MON 100%. I wouldn't want him tbh but Bruce is a proven winner at this level.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 8:47:56 GMT
Steve Bruce would do better than MON 100%. I wouldn't want him tbh but Bruce is a proven winner at this level. Guesswork. Yes Steve Bruce has a good record in this division, but it was a while ago now and there are no guarantees in football. How do you know that Steve Bruce would have coped with the mess that MON inherited any better or worse? You don't. He might have done, he might not have done. The thing is, these people calling for managers like Bruce, is that in 18 months or less, you can guarantee that they will be saying exactly the same things as what they're saying now.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 27, 2022 8:49:39 GMT
He’s going nowhere.
We’re going through a spell of relative stability (after the free fall / switch manager every 6 months period). We’ve just drastically remodelled the squad. We’re in no danger of relegation. We probably cannot afford to pay him off and potentially pay compo to another club to poach their manager away.
For all of the above reasons, I imagine getting rid isn’t even an agenda item for the board, whether us fans like it or not.
By the way I’m not advocating he stay, I’m not arsed either way, but I’m fairly sure above is how the club will see it. Suck it up, people.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 8:50:37 GMT
So you fully expected to be pushing for the play offs this season? Even though we know we've been hit with injuries and have been limited to what players when can bring in due to FFP. For me this was always a rebuilding season and to see improvement on the last few seasons, which I believe we have. If you really want him gone then you need your head looking at. And one serious question... Who would you bring in that's available right now? Managers are always available, even those in a current position Go on then. Like who?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 8:51:39 GMT
So you fully expected to be pushing for the play offs this season? Even though we know we've been hit with injuries and have been limited to what players when can bring in due to FFP. For me this was always a rebuilding season and to see improvement on the last few seasons, which I believe we have. If you really want him gone then you need your head looking at. And one serious question... Who would you bring in that's available right now? Steve Bruce We haven’t improved from last season it’s a carbon copy If that was a serious comment then I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Post by werrington on Jan 27, 2022 8:54:37 GMT
Managers are always available, even those in a current position Go on then. Like who? You need me to answer that…..really?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 8:55:36 GMT
You need me to answer that…..really? Well yeah. Realistically who could we replace him with that we could actually attract and afford?
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 27, 2022 8:56:29 GMT
I know in not watching live at the ground anymore but I did for nigh on 50 years. Their still my club. I'm hurting watching this shit. What is O,Neill thinking when we set up to pass around the back with players who can’t do it. Harwood-Bellis,Fox,Chester etc certainly cannot. We then have Baker as the only one ready to accept the ball ,as Clucas doesnt want it and Allen incapabable of receiving and passing it so across it goes to the wingabacks The wing backs either hit it down the line and Brown missscontrols or it goes backwards into trouble as the back three play amongst themselves. We are so slow & predictable in our play. Hence why we’ve had si many matches in the past couple of months where we have created absolutely nothing.Not even a shot on goal. The squad we have,its strengths are to attack yet we mostly have seven players in our own half. Oneil produces this negative shit. Other teams players on a pittance compared to ours. Get him gone now were Stoke City. FC not Wycombe fuckin Wanderers. If you’re going to call for him to be sacked you might at least spell his name correctly.
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Post by werrington on Jan 27, 2022 8:57:21 GMT
You need me to answer that…..really? Well yeah. Realistically who could we replace him with that we could actually attract and afford? Thinking outside of the box is always a good start Like I posted above there’s many good coaches not in the public eye just awaiting a chance
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 27, 2022 8:58:05 GMT
The lack of respect for a bloke that’s worked his knackers off to stabilise this club since coming here is disgraceful.Yes we’re having a bad run but we’ll come out of it and yet again numerous posters will made to look pathetic
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Post by werrington on Jan 27, 2022 8:58:57 GMT
You need me to answer that…..really? Well yeah. Realistically who could we replace him with that we could actually attract and afford? Thinking outside of the box is always a good start Like I posted above there’s many good coaches not in the public eye just awaiting a chance
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