Etebo

[neddy]

Has he ever played a full season for anyone? He always seems injured?

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 19, 2022 11:10:57 GMT lordb said:

May 19, 2022 10:06:46 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

You’re not making sense. He’s not played for us as the deepest lying midfielder so you can’t expect to have noticed him playing that way. A player should be able to play to instruction if he has the attributes to fulfill the role which we agree he does. As I’ve said he’s by no means my dream DM, just think we’re desperate for physicality and it’s his strongest attribute.

Is it?
can't say he strikes as being overtly physical
dribbling from deep is his stand out asset, perhaps he'd be better on the wing?
it's all moot anyway as he has burned his bridges

He’s extremely strong a players stand out asset is not necessarily what they choose to do most often that’s just an instinct. It’s a bit like saying it was Imbula’s main strength because it was actually a weakness that he gave in to his instinct almost all of the time which made it predictable and ineffective.

[prestwichpotter]

Has not gone to Turkey yet?

[lordb]

May 19, 2022 8:25:29 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

May 19, 2022 7:17:24 GMT lordb said:

He asked for a transfer on ONeills first day in charge just one day before we played Barnsley
Anyone with an ounce of integrity would have at least waited till the Monday

Would have been strange behaviour. I clearly remember MON saying he’d instigated the meetings with players individually to gauge their commitment. What would you have done lied to his face on the Thursday/Friday then gone in on Monday and said I’ve changed my mind I want a transfer. Players want transfers all the time you don’t have to ostracise them because of it eg Kane/Spurs.

That's not how I understand it went down
Etebo, Badou Wimmer and Bauer all knocked on his door day one blind siding the manager on his first day with a game to prepare for the next day
Sorry but that's not on
Appreciate perfectly acceptable to say you want out but there is a way of going about it and timing is part of thst

[jesusmcmuffin]

May 19, 2022 17:04:54 GMT lordb said:

May 19, 2022 8:25:29 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

Would have been strange behaviour. I clearly remember MON saying he’d instigated the meetings with players individually to gauge their commitment. What would you have done lied to his face on the Thursday/Friday then gone in on Monday and said I’ve changed my mind I want a transfer. Players want transfers all the time you don’t have to ostracise them because of it eg Kane/Spurs.

That's not how I understand it went down
Etebo, Badou Wimmer and Bauer all knocked on his door day one blind siding the manager on his first day with a game to prepare for the next day
Sorry but that's not on
Appreciate perfectly acceptable to say you want out but there is a way of going about it and timing is part of thst

To be fair we'll never know but best all out of the club. Bauer used to be on the upper concourse for the odd game, never quite got that, once in his tracksuit. I think he was back at the club and the odd mention of a reconciliation.

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 19, 2022 17:04:54 GMT lordb said:

May 19, 2022 8:25:29 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

Would have been strange behaviour. I clearly remember MON saying he’d instigated the meetings with players individually to gauge their commitment. What would you have done lied to his face on the Thursday/Friday then gone in on Monday and said I’ve changed my mind I want a transfer. Players want transfers all the time you don’t have to ostracise them because of it eg Kane/Spurs.

That's not how I understand it went down
Etebo, Badou Wimmer and Bauer all knocked on his door day one blind siding the manager on his first day with a game to prepare for the next day
Sorry but that's not on
Appreciate perfectly acceptable to say you want out but there is a way of going about it and timing is part of thst

Strange wonder what makes you think that? Having been at the club for some time and having well documented issues with management (not so much Etebo but definitely the others mentioned). They’d probably already made their stances clear to the club why would you imagine them knocking on the managers door on his first day? Much easier to believe that the new man called them in to gauge their commitment and whether they were to feature in his plans only to not like their answers and decide they didn’t. A decision based on football alone would probably see all but Wimmer as mainstays of his team. How does that compare with Clucas last closed season and Joe Allen this being allowed to whore themselves around from pillar to post yet be welcome back into the fold if their efforts to leave fail/ed.

[svengaliinplatforms]

May 19, 2022 8:41:50 GMT boskampsflaps said:

May 17, 2022 8:16:37 GMT svengaliinplatforms said:

Is he? Watford (now a Championship side) could afford him easily, with spare change from down the back of their sofa. They've decided against it.

He's done nothing whilst here, to show he's anything like the player he thinks he is, in his own deluded mind.

He's not Premier League class, and he's been found out. He's got a year left with us, and then he'll be off.

As someone has already said, he epitomises perfectly, everything that's gone wrong at this club, since relegation.

I thought he was meant to be playing well before his injury, or am I misremembering?

I'd filed him under 'flattered to deceive', to be kind.

[thehartshillbadger]

He’s got something, I don’t know what it is, can’t quite put my finger on it…….
Got it. Monkeypox!

[lordb]

May 19, 2022 17:59:09 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

May 19, 2022 17:04:54 GMT lordb said:

That's not how I understand it went down
Etebo, Badou Wimmer and Bauer all knocked on his door day one blind siding the manager on his first day with a game to prepare for the next day
Sorry but that's not on
Appreciate perfectly acceptable to say you want out but there is a way of going about it and timing is part of thst

Strange wonder what makes you think that? Having been at the club for some time and having well documented issues with management (not so much Etebo but definitely the others mentioned). They’d probably already made their stances clear to the club why would you imagine them knocking on the managers door on his first day? Much easier to believe that the new man called them in to gauge their commitment and whether they were to feature in his plans only to not like their answers and decide they didn’t. A decision based on football alone would probably see all but Wimmer as mainstays of his team. How does that compare with Clucas last closed season and Joe Allen this being allowed to whore themselves around from pillar to post yet be welcome back into the fold if their efforts to leave fail/ed.

Can see your logic but that's how it went down

[cvillestokie]

May 19, 2022 8:01:10 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

May 19, 2022 0:54:12 GMT cvillestokie said:

Where? The closest player to his style that he could replace is Baker, who is one likely to get in 40+ league games next season.

He’s not shown a great defensive nous to play alongside him. Thompson seems better defensively than Etebo and we’d likely be looking for someone else for that role anyways.

He’s not as good as Powell going forward, or Vrancic.

He’s got all the tools to play DM. Don’t get me wrong I quite like Thommo but he’s got nothing approaching the physicality of Etebo. Don’t know why anyone would expect him to play like a DM when he’s not being asked to play that role. He can drive forward with the ball but imo does very little with it. Looks like a player who could flourish as a DM to me. Personally I prefer a taller DM but he’d be a sight better than the lightweights we’ve tried to employ as our deepest midfielder.

I’d prefer a taller dm too.

My counter to the “all the attributes” though is that, at 26 he’s rarely ever played there. It seems a bit late in the game to change him around now.

I personally just don’t like the lack of commitment to the contract. If someone pays you, you work your ass off for them. This is a principle I’ve had working anywhere, whether it be in security, behind a bar or now in academia. You respect the person that puts food on your table. If you don’t want to anymore, you sell your stocks and buy out the remainder of your contract.

We talk about FFP being a huge issue. It would be far less of an issue if players didn’t have so much control over these matters.

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 19, 2022 22:40:21 GMT cvillestokie said:

May 19, 2022 8:01:10 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

He’s got all the tools to play DM. Don’t get me wrong I quite like Thommo but he’s got nothing approaching the physicality of Etebo. Don’t know why anyone would expect him to play like a DM when he’s not being asked to play that role. He can drive forward with the ball but imo does very little with it. Looks like a player who could flourish as a DM to me. Personally I prefer a taller DM but he’d be a sight better than the lightweights we’ve tried to employ as our deepest midfielder.

I’d prefer a taller dm too.

My counter to the “all the attributes” though is that, at 26 he’s rarely ever played there. It seems a bit late in the game to change him around now.

I personally just don’t like the lack of commitment to the contract. If someone pays you, you work your ass off for them. This is a principle I’ve had working anywhere, whether it be in security, behind a bar or now in academia. You respect the person that puts food on your table. If you don’t want to anymore, you sell your stocks and buy out the remainder of your contract.

We talk about FFP being a huge issue. It would be far less of an issue if players didn’t have so much control over these matters.

Pretty sure I saw him playing DM for Nigeria round about the time he signed for us. For me to have been watching it I’d assume it must have been the World Cup. He’s mobile, strong in the tackle and upper body. Aerial ability would still concern me but we’ve played Sawyers as our deepest midfielder on several occasions, he’d be a major upgrade on that.

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 19, 2022 21:57:23 GMT lordb said:

May 19, 2022 17:59:09 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

Strange wonder what makes you think that? Having been at the club for some time and having well documented issues with management (not so much Etebo but definitely the others mentioned). They’d probably already made their stances clear to the club why would you imagine them knocking on the managers door on his first day? Much easier to believe that the new man called them in to gauge their commitment and whether they were to feature in his plans only to not like their answers and decide they didn’t. A decision based on football alone would probably see all but Wimmer as mainstays of his team. How does that compare with Clucas last closed season and Joe Allen this being allowed to whore themselves around from pillar to post yet be welcome back into the fold if their efforts to leave fail/ed.

Can see your logic but that's how it went down

Says who. I’m not prone to believing one sided stories that don’t fit with logical reasoning. Just like when Pulis claimed Bego had refused to play. You hear the other side of the story it seems much more believable and the accuser does nothing to set the record straight nor takes the disciplinary action available to him. I know who I believe in such circumstances.

[robwahlmann]

Etebo has everything in his locker to be a poor man's Kante as I see it, but unfortunately I can't see him playing for Stoke next season. That's a pity though, because I think he is exactly the kind of player we're missing in the central midfield position.

[somersetstokie]

I expect he will be re-presented and repackaged as a Stoke City Player next season, with suggestions that he is now a committed and enthusiastic member of the squad, ready to give his best for the club. This new attitude and improvement will last about 6 matches.



Then another season of overpaid under achievement.

[Gary Hackett]

May 20, 2022 6:32:39 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

May 19, 2022 22:40:21 GMT cvillestokie said:

I’d prefer a taller dm too.

My counter to the “all the attributes” though is that, at 26 he’s rarely ever played there. It seems a bit late in the game to change him around now.

I personally just don’t like the lack of commitment to the contract. If someone pays you, you work your ass off for them. This is a principle I’ve had working anywhere, whether it be in security, behind a bar or now in academia. You respect the person that puts food on your table. If you don’t want to anymore, you sell your stocks and buy out the remainder of your contract.

We talk about FFP being a huge issue. It would be far less of an issue if players didn’t have so much control over these matters.

Pretty sure I saw him playing DM for Nigeria round about the time he signed for us. For me to have been watching it I’d assume it must have been the World Cup. He’s mobile, strong in the tackle and upper body. Aerial ability would still concern me but we’ve played Sawyers as our deepest midfielder on several occasions, he’d be a major upgrade on that.

I watched him play in that world cup just after we signed him and I don't recall him playing as DM.

[BraveSirRobin]

May 20, 2022 14:59:41 GMT Gary Hackett said:

May 20, 2022 6:32:39 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

Pretty sure I saw him playing DM for Nigeria round about the time he signed for us. For me to have been watching it I’d assume it must have been the World Cup. He’s mobile, strong in the tackle and upper body. Aerial ability would still concern me but we’ve played Sawyers as our deepest midfielder on several occasions, he’d be a major upgrade on that.

I watched him play in that world cup just after we signed him and I don't recall him playing as DM.

Where did you recall him playing?

[prestwichpotter]

May 20, 2022 6:57:59 GMT robwahlmann said:

Etebo has everything in his locker to be a poor man's Kante as I see it, but unfortunately I can't see him playing for Stoke next season. That's a pity though, because I think he is exactly the kind of player we're missing in the central midfield position.

Apart from attitude and desire, two vital ingredients to be a top player........

[Gary Hackett]

May 20, 2022 16:05:17 GMT BraveSirRobin said:

May 20, 2022 14:59:41 GMT Gary Hackett said:

I watched him play in that world cup just after we signed him and I don't recall him playing as DM.

Where did you recall him playing?

Box to box midfielder

[silsdenstokie]

Yep defo box to box in the 2018 WC

[silsdenstokie]

Remember being quite impressed and thinking we’d struck gold

Soon went downhill though ☹️

[Gary Hackett]

May 20, 2022 17:04:42 GMT silsdenstokie said:

Remember being quite impressed and thinking we’d struck gold

Soon went downhill though ☹️

He played well.

He's a decent player.

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 20, 2022 17:03:28 GMT silsdenstokie said:

Yep defo box to box in the 2018 WC

First group game played DM.

[maninasuitcase]

May 19, 2022 20:25:56 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

He’s got something, I don’t know what it is, can’t quite put my finger on it…….
Got it. Monkeypox!

More like Moneypox 🤨

[wakefieldstokie]

‘Living off one world cup’ Etebo.

What a shitester

[liathroid]

www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=43801

[lordb]

Jun 13, 2022 17:36:35 GMT liathroid said:

www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=43801

Sounds just what we need...

[thehartshillbadger]

Jun 13, 2022 17:36:35 GMT liathroid said:

www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=43801

Reads just like the oatcake player ratings on a Saturday night👀

[liathroid]

Jun 13, 2022 18:07:26 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Jun 13, 2022 17:36:35 GMT liathroid said:

www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=43801

Reads just like the oatcake player ratings on a Saturday night👀

didn't see Albert's name

[leesandfordstoupe]

Jun 13, 2022 18:01:31 GMT lordb said:

Jun 13, 2022 17:36:35 GMT liathroid said:

www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=43801

Sounds just what we need...

Would have been so easy. Yes Etebo you want to leave, we’ll agree a fee we’re willing to accept with your agent and anyone who meets it you can negotiate with. Until that happens I don’t want to hear another word on the subject. See you on the training pitch, bye.

[prestwichpotter]

Is he still here?