Etebo

[terryconroysmagic]

Mar 6, 2022 22:48:38 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Vastly overrated on here because of the World Cup.

Then underrated for most of the rest of his time because he decided to look after himself.

He’s been badly advised though I reckon. He’s had some good moves away from us on loan but I still reckon staying another season and playing regularly would have got him a better permanent move away to a good club.

Where did he succeed on loan?

[bayernoatcake]

Mar 6, 2022 22:53:52 GMT terryconroysmagic said:

Mar 6, 2022 22:48:38 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Vastly overrated on here because of the World Cup.

Then underrated for most of the rest of his time because he decided to look after himself.

He’s been badly advised though I reckon. He’s had some good moves away from us on loan but I still reckon staying another season and playing regularly would have got him a better permanent move away to a good club.

Where did he succeed on loan?

I meant good in terms of better clubs than us.

[jesusmcmuffin]

Mar 6, 2022 22:48:38 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Vastly overrated on here because of the World Cup.

Then underrated for most of the rest of his time because he decided to look after himself.

He’s been badly advised though I reckon. He’s had some good moves away from us on loan but I still reckon staying another season and playing regularly would have got him a better permanent move away to a good club.

I think he was/is a really good player and agree though, could have landed a decent move if put his mind to it. Wasn't just the Nigeria game, at times he stood out for me in games v decent opposition for us. Didn't Steve Bruce rave about him after one game?

[bayernoatcake]

Mar 6, 2022 22:57:51 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Mar 6, 2022 22:48:38 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Vastly overrated on here because of the World Cup.

Then underrated for most of the rest of his time because he decided to look after himself.

He’s been badly advised though I reckon. He’s had some good moves away from us on loan but I still reckon staying another season and playing regularly would have got him a better permanent move away to a good club.

I think he was/is a really good player and agree though, could have landed a decent move if put his mind to it. Wasn't just the Nigeria game, at times he stood out for me in games v decent opposition for us. Didn't Steve Bruce rave about him after one game?

He did yeah.

I thought there was the makings of a really good player but he needed work. He was just starting to get there as well I thought and then left. I think another season in the Championship would have made him better and ready to succeed at a higher level.

He’s clearly a good footballer. He just needed to hone his positioning.

Hopefully he can help Watford stay up and they pay actual money for him.

[jesusmcmuffin]

Mar 6, 2022 23:02:30 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Mar 6, 2022 22:57:51 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

I think he was/is a really good player and agree though, could have landed a decent move if put his mind to it. Wasn't just the Nigeria game, at times he stood out for me in games v decent opposition for us. Didn't Steve Bruce rave about him after one game?

He did yeah.

I thought there was the makings of a really good player but he needed work. He was just starting to get there as well I thought and then left. I think another season in the Championship would have made him better and ready to succeed at a higher level.

He’s clearly a good footballer. He just needed to hone his positioning.

Hopefully he can help Watford stay up and they pay actual money for him.

Would be nice. Seems they like him in general from the few comments I read.

[FullerMagic]

Rayo Vallecano fan account with a couple of thousand followers claiming they're interested in him and have offered 1.5m euros, but Stoke looking for 3.5m

Probably rubbish - and 3.5m seems very optimistic if there's anything in it.

[banksy1art]

Keep him but actually play him… he’s class

[Gary Hackett]

May 15, 2022 10:42:52 GMT FullerMagic said:

Rayo Vallecano fan account with a couple of thousand followers claiming they're interested in him and have offered 1.5m euros, but Stoke looking for 3.5m

Probably rubbish - and 3.5m seems very optimistic if there's anything in it.

He's probably worth that in all fairness and he is highly rated by clubs who wouldn't think twice about a couple of million quid.

[scfc75]

May 15, 2022 10:44:18 GMT banksy1art said:

Keep him but actually play him… he’s class

That would work if he was even remotely interested in playing for us.

[chigstoke]

May 15, 2022 10:44:18 GMT banksy1art said:

Keep him but actually play him… he’s class

That'd be a short conversation

'Right Peter, you're playing for us this season'

'No I'm not'

'Fair enough'

[hyaduck]

May 15, 2022 10:44:18 GMT banksy1art said:

Keep him but actually play him… he’s class

No he’s not, he’s wank!!!!

[jesusmcmuffin]

May 15, 2022 12:32:09 GMT hyaduck said:

May 15, 2022 10:44:18 GMT banksy1art said:

Keep him but actually play him… he’s class

No he’s not, he’s wank!!!!

He's a decent player, Duckers. One of those who want away as soon as their team relegated when they were one of the reasons why but would be a top player at our level and what we need but won't happen

[cvillestokie]

May 15, 2022 12:57:43 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

May 15, 2022 12:32:09 GMT hyaduck said:

No he’s not, he’s wank!!!!

He's a decent player, Duckers. One of those who want away as soon as their team relegated when they were one of the reasons why but would be a top player at our level and what we need but won't happen

He wasn’t with us when we were relegated. He came in expecting a promotion in the first season.

I don’t know what Etebo offers. Energy perhaps. He runs with the ball, but doesn’t release it well so the gains made are for naught. He doesn’t score, he doesn’t assist.

[jesusmcmuffin]

May 15, 2022 14:17:39 GMT cvillestokie said:

May 15, 2022 12:57:43 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

He's a decent player, Duckers. One of those who want away as soon as their team relegated when they were one of the reasons why but would be a top player at our level and what we need but won't happen

He wasn’t with us when we were relegated. He came in expecting a promotion in the first season.

I don’t know what Etebo offers. Energy perhaps. He runs with the ball, but doesn’t release it well so the gains made are for naught. He doesn’t score, he doesn’t assist.

I was getting my players mixed up but let's not go there 😄. You're absolutely right of course

[AlbertTatlock]

Just what has this waste of a pair of boots ever done that gets people creaming over him, a shit signing that didn't want to be here and has cost us bucket loads of cash cause no one wants to buy him, how much of his over inflated wage are we still stumping up? There's little chance we'll get much more than the £1.27m that's allegedly been offered - Stoke should bite their hand off if true.

Gouranga.

[Staffsoatcake]

May 15, 2022 11:28:20 GMT chigstoke said:

May 15, 2022 10:44:18 GMT banksy1art said:

Keep him but actually play him… he’s class

That'd be a short conversation

'Right Peter, you're playing for us this season'

'No I'm not'

'Fair enough'

If a player under contract refuses to play, the club should have the right to refuse to pay them.

It won't happen of course, but it should.

[leesandfordstoupe]

Mar 6, 2022 23:02:30 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Mar 6, 2022 22:57:51 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

I think he was/is a really good player and agree though, could have landed a decent move if put his mind to it. Wasn't just the Nigeria game, at times he stood out for me in games v decent opposition for us. Didn't Steve Bruce rave about him after one game?

He did yeah.

I thought there was the makings of a really good player but he needed work. He was just starting to get there as well I thought and then left. I think another season in the Championship would have made him better and ready to succeed at a higher level.

He’s clearly a good footballer. He just needed to hone his positioning.

Hopefully he can help Watford stay up and they pay actual money for him.

Didn’t appear to lack positional discipline. Was good off the ball. Output on the ball left something to be desired. Almost like you’re talking about a different player.

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 15, 2022 14:59:29 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

May 15, 2022 11:28:20 GMT chigstoke said:

That'd be a short conversation

'Right Peter, you're playing for us this season'

'No I'm not'

'Fair enough'

If a player under contract refuses to play, the club should have the right to refuse to pay them.

It won't happen of course, but it should.

That’s an utter bullshit oatcake legend. Etebo hasn’t refused to play at any time. Neither has any manager insinuated that he’s refused to play. O’Neil ostracised him from the squad by choice because he wanted a transfer.

[jesusmcmuffin]

May 15, 2022 16:54:08 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

May 15, 2022 14:59:29 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

If a player under contract refuses to play, the club should have the right to refuse to pay them.

It won't happen of course, but it should.

That’s an utter bullshit oatcake legend. Etebo hasn’t refused to play at any time. Neither has any manager insinuated that he’s refused to play. O’Neil ostracised him from the squad by choice because he wanted a transfer.

He hates Stoke as well


Wrong player again . Easily confused

[bayernoatcake]

May 15, 2022 16:47:09 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

Mar 6, 2022 23:02:30 GMT bayernoatcake said:

He did yeah.

I thought there was the makings of a really good player but he needed work. He was just starting to get there as well I thought and then left. I think another season in the Championship would have made him better and ready to succeed at a higher level.

He’s clearly a good footballer. He just needed to hone his positioning.

Hopefully he can help Watford stay up and they pay actual money for him.

Didn’t appear to lack positional discipline. Was good off the ball. Output on the ball left something to be desired. Almost like you’re talking about a different player.

He ran around like Allen. He never protected the back 4.

[dirtclod]

Here's to Watford absolutely loving & buying him.
Don't see him as a $3-4 million player...yet, agree that there's talent there. But take the 1.27 and run ffs.

As I remember, Etebo simply asked for a transfer, don't recall him refusing to play?
Wasn't it that vastly-overrated Badou Ndaiye who grumbled about not wanting to come back and play, then found his level at a mid-table Greek team?
They can have that idiot.

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 15, 2022 17:13:45 GMT bayernoatcake said:

May 15, 2022 16:47:09 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

Didn’t appear to lack positional discipline. Was good off the ball. Output on the ball left something to be desired. Almost like you’re talking about a different player.

He ran around like Allen. He never protected the back 4.

At a guess I'd imagine he played most of his games in the same midfield as either Badou or Woods who were designated holding/deepest midfielders. What you wanted him to play a role he wasn't even being asked to. Personally I would have played him as a designated DM as he has all the attributes to do so and never thought he was all that on the ball, passing and creativity was a disappointment. Given a choice between him and Sawyers as your deepest lying midfielder it wouldn't take much thinking about for most folk, unfortunately MON ain't most folk.

[bayernoatcake]

May 15, 2022 17:49:18 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

May 15, 2022 17:13:45 GMT bayernoatcake said:

He ran around like Allen. He never protected the back 4.

At a guess I'd imagine he played most of his games in the same midfield as either Badou or Woods who were designated holding/deepest midfielders. What you wanted him to play a role he wasn't even being asked to. Personally I would have played him as a designated DM as he has all the attributes to do so and never thought he was all that on the ball, passing and creativity was a disappointment. Given a choice between him and Sawyers as your deepest lying midfielder it wouldn't take much thinking about for most folk, unfortunately MON ain't most folk.

You still have to show discipline and he never did.
He’d go forward but not back again. He was getting better but need a lot of work.

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 15, 2022 17:35:40 GMT dirtclod said:

Here's to Watford absolutely loving & buying him.
Don't see him as a $3-4 million player...yet, agree that there's talent there. But take the 1.27 and run ffs.

As I remember, Etebo simply asked for a transfer, don't recall him refusing to play?
Wasn't it that vastly-overrated Badou Ndaiye who grumbled about not wanting to come back and play, then found his level at a mid-table Greek team?
They can have that idiot.

Both good players neither vastly over rated. Overseas high earners who were not hugely committed to the cause just doing a job for money and MON just wasn't having it. Etebo however did not at anytime fail to play with committment when selected which Badou was guilty of on at least one occasion. Overall both players generally showed a damn sight more desire than many of their team mates when selected. 

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 15, 2022 17:54:28 GMT bayernoatcake said:

May 15, 2022 17:49:18 GMT leesandfordstoupe said:

At a guess I'd imagine he played most of his games in the same midfield as either Badou or Woods who were designated holding/deepest midfielders. What you wanted him to play a role he wasn't even being asked to. Personally I would have played him as a designated DM as he has all the attributes to do so and never thought he was all that on the ball, passing and creativity was a disappointment. Given a choice between him and Sawyers as your deepest lying midfielder it wouldn't take much thinking about for most folk, unfortunately MON ain't most folk.

You still have to show discipline and he never did.
He’d go forward but not back again. He was getting better but need a lot of work.

Absolute tosh. For the role he was being asked to play he got back plenty and had presence when he did so too. Problem for me was him getting forward (as he should as a box to boxer with a DM behind him) but did nothing with the ball when he did so. Player being played in a position which did not make the best use of his attributes.

[Pugsley]

Why are people wasting their breath talking about this cretin.

Get him gone, we've got more important things to concern ourselves with.

[boskampsflaps]

May 15, 2022 18:17:08 GMT Pugsley said:

Why are people wasting their breath talking about this cretin.

Get him gone, we've got more important things to concern ourselves with.

Given our options I'd have said cretin back in the team, obviously it wouldn't happen but he's a good player.

[Pugsley]

May 15, 2022 18:33:43 GMT boskampsflaps said:

May 15, 2022 18:17:08 GMT Pugsley said:

Why are people wasting their breath talking about this cretin.

Get him gone, we've got more important things to concern ourselves with.

Given our options I'd have said cretin back in the team, obviously it wouldn't happen but he's a good player.

Saw us a stepping stone and never really wanted to play for us, especially when the going got tough.  Why the 'love' for him, I don't get it?

[leesandfordstoupe]

May 15, 2022 18:41:09 GMT Pugsley said:

May 15, 2022 18:33:43 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Given our options I'd have said cretin back in the team, obviously it wouldn't happen but he's a good player.

Saw us a stepping stone and never really wanted to play for us, especially when the going got tough.  Why the 'love' for him, I don't get it?

As opposed to having always dreamed of playing for Stoke like say Arnie lol. Good player, physical presence in midfield, always played with committment whether he wanted to be here or not. Some fans seem to have decided to rewrite history where him and Badou are concerned to align with club politics. 

[boskampsflaps]

May 15, 2022 18:41:09 GMT Pugsley said:

May 15, 2022 18:33:43 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Given our options I'd have said cretin back in the team, obviously it wouldn't happen but he's a good player.

Saw us a stepping stone and never really wanted to play for us, especially when the going got tough.  Why the 'love' for him, I don't get it?

Who does, we're a stepping stone for most like nearly all the teams in this league, seems like he was badly advised rather than kicking up a fuss himself, never downed tools when he was playing.