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Post by sportsman on Jan 19, 2022 20:00:48 GMT
Just creates excess wherever you look. You go 343 you have 4 central midfielders that don’t get a game. A couple of wingers and strikers don’t play. He seems a great talent. But it seems like a lot of hassle. Agreed. Don’t get it at all. Is that in the way that the majority on here didn't get Jagielka either? 😁
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 19, 2022 20:04:10 GMT
Agreed. Don’t get it at all. Is that in the way that the majority on here didn't get Jagielka either? 😁 Jagielka makes more sense now Batth has gone. I can only assume a player is leaving or we’ll be changing formation in some way.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 19, 2022 20:05:31 GMT
Historically MON has said he thinks 433 is the optimum formation but that we dont have the players for it. You could see us moving to 343 in the fairly short term with the players we are signing, which might also now be his preferred formation. An out and out wide three would squeeze out a Powell or a Vrancic. I do quite like the formations people have suggested with two 10s tucked in behind the main striker though. Not neccessarily. Our two wide players in the 4 are full backs by trade so we can be more aggressive. Also Vrancic is our best midfield and weirdly he's also the midfielder who can tackle the best too. Powell is our best target man when fit and can play in a range of positions across the front three and indeed in the 4 too. With 3 at the back we can in theory take more risks ahead.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 19, 2022 20:07:54 GMT
Agreed. Don’t get it at all. Is that in the way that the majority on here didn't get Jagielka either? 😁 I think most were happy with Jagielka weren’t they? Apart from the usual suspects
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Post by sportsman on Jan 19, 2022 20:09:15 GMT
Is that in the way that the majority on here didn't get Jagielka either? 😁 Jagielka makes more sense now Batth has gone. I can only assume a player is leaving or we’ll be changing formation in some way. Which is why I never get it when people say we don't need this and that, as we don't know when the manager is planning.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 19, 2022 20:14:06 GMT
An out and out wide three would squeeze out a Powell or a Vrancic. I do quite like the formations people have suggested with two 10s tucked in behind the main striker though. Not neccessarily. Our two wide players in the 4 are full backs by trade so we can be more aggressive. Also Vrancic is our best midfield and weirdly he's also the midfielder who can tackle the best too. Powell is our best target man when fit and can play in a range of positions across the front three and indeed in the 4 too. With 3 at the back we can in theory take more risks ahead. Which positions in the 4 can Powell play? The options there are wing back or double pivot. Powell could play as one of the tucked in 10s or as part of a front two, not sure he works as a false 9 as effectively.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 19, 2022 20:15:15 GMT
Jagielka makes more sense now Batth has gone. I can only assume a player is leaving or we’ll be changing formation in some way. Which is why I never get it when people say we don't need this and that, as we don't know when the manager is planning. Is this the same manager you were giving dogs’ abuse to a few weeks back?
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Post by sportsman on Jan 19, 2022 20:16:41 GMT
It's a good job some aren't man citeh supporters. They'd never cope with having about 4 players for each position 😜
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Post by sportsman on Jan 19, 2022 20:18:34 GMT
Which is why I never get it when people say we don't need this and that, as we don't know when the manager is planning. Is this the same manager you were giving dogs’ abuse to a few weeks back? Yes exactly the same one. And your point is? We still don't know what players and formation he's planning. Nothing to do with the point I'm making.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 19, 2022 20:22:38 GMT
Agreed. Don’t get it at all. Is that in the way that the majority on here didn't get Jagielka either? 😁 Most people were happy with that one. I'd be happy with this one, just don't overly see where he fits.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 19, 2022 20:23:20 GMT
It's a good job some aren't man citeh supporters. They'd never cope with having about 4 players for each position 😜 Man City have a relatively small squad don't they?
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Post by wuzza on Jan 19, 2022 20:24:30 GMT
It’s times like this I’m happy I don’t get bogged down in tactical theory 🙂 Happy to just let the lad (who sounds an exciting player to watch) join up and see what transpires ! (we really don’t have much to lose - I think most people would consider a top 6 finish a bit of a bonus now)
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Post by sportsman on Jan 19, 2022 20:29:06 GMT
It’s times like this I’m happy I don’t get bogged down in tactical theory 🙂 Happy to just let the lad (who sounds an exciting player to watch) join up and see what transpires ! (we really don’t have much to lose - I think most people would consider a top 6 finish a bit of a bonus now) At last. Someone who sums it up.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 19, 2022 20:31:19 GMT
Agreed. Don’t get it at all. Is that in the way that the majority on here didn't get Jagielka either? 😁 I don’t think that the “majority” didn’t get the Jagielka signing. I would say that the thread is mostly full of people understanding it to be a 6 month deal for someone with experience contrasted with a couple of others repeating the same moaning message on repeat.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 19, 2022 20:32:31 GMT
Not neccessarily. Our two wide players in the 4 are full backs by trade so we can be more aggressive. Also Vrancic is our best midfield and weirdly he's also the midfielder who can tackle the best too. Powell is our best target man when fit and can play in a range of positions across the front three and indeed in the 4 too. With 3 at the back we can in theory take more risks ahead. Which positions in the 4 can Powell play? The options there are wing back or double pivot. Powell could play as one of the tucked in 10s or as part of a front two, not sure he works as a false 9 as effectively. He could play as a CM, he often drops deep and collects the ball when he's sat infront of them. He could play anywhere along the front three, but is best as the man leading the line. Put pace either side of him. That said, he may largely miss the rest of the season anyway, so good to have options.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 19, 2022 20:38:28 GMT
Is this the same manager you were giving dogs’ abuse to a few weeks back? Yes exactly the same one. And your point is? We still don't know what players and formation he's planning. Nothing to do with the point I'm making. It is though, you suddenly seem to have a lot more faith in ‘what the manager is planning’.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 19, 2022 20:39:48 GMT
Which positions in the 4 can Powell play? The options there are wing back or double pivot. Powell could play as one of the tucked in 10s or as part of a front two, not sure he works as a false 9 as effectively. He could play as a CM, he often drops deep and collects the ball when he's sat infront of them. He could play anywhere along the front three, but is best as the man leading the line. Put pace either side of him. That said, he may largely miss the rest of the season anyway, so good to have options. I don’t think he could play well as a CM, tracking back isn’t the same as playing that role and it would neuter his best creative qualities. He shouldn’t be playing as part of a midfield two, that would be insane.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 19, 2022 20:41:31 GMT
Yes exactly the same one. And your point is? We still don't know what players and formation he's planning. Nothing to do with the point I'm making. It is though, you suddenly seem to have a lot more faith in ‘what the manager is planning’. For starters, is the manager going anywhere? No Can he turn me around by the team playing like they did at Hull with at last, exciting players with pace and ability? Yes he can.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 19, 2022 20:56:32 GMT
It is though, you suddenly seem to have a lot more faith in ‘what the manager is planning’. For starters, is the manager going anywhere? No Can he turn me around by the team playing like they did at Hull with at last, exciting players with pace and ability? Yes he can. There’s a carrot dangled for him. My point was just that there might not be a plan, it might be a ‘couldn’t resist’ type signing like a Tuncay or a Berger. That’s the worst case scenario though, I’m looking forward to seeing him play, he sounds like a future superstar.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jan 19, 2022 21:10:39 GMT
Can’t believe people are moaning about this
Having genuine winger options gives us the choice of playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 when 3 at the back isn’t working.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 19, 2022 21:23:15 GMT
Can’t believe people are moaning about this Having genuine winger options gives us the choice of playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 when 3 at the back isn’t working. Where’s he going to play when it is? I don’t think anyone’s moaning. They’re saying more that it’s a head scratcher.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 19, 2022 21:58:12 GMT
Can’t believe people are moaning about this Having genuine winger options gives us the choice of playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 when 3 at the back isn’t working. No one’s moaning. They’re discussing something that seems like a pretty big point in signing a player.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 22:03:35 GMT
Can’t believe people are moaning about this Having genuine winger options gives us the choice of playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 when 3 at the back isn’t working. Where’s he going to play when it is? I don’t think anyone’s moaning. They’re saying more that it’s a head scratcher. We've had Powell out for months. Then Vrancic picked up an injury. Campbell has just come back from a lengthy lay off. Players get injured. Great to have options.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 19, 2022 22:05:35 GMT
Where’s he going to play when it is? I don’t think anyone’s moaning. They’re saying more that it’s a head scratcher. We've had Powell out for months. Then Vrancic picked up an injury. Campbell has just come back from a lengthy lay off. Players get injured. Great to have options. Yeah but he doesn’t really play any of their positions, and his position doesn’t exist in our side, that’s why it’s a bit of a weird one.
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Post by neddy on Jan 19, 2022 22:08:19 GMT
Didn’t Rangers nee Gerard try to sign Campbell and may have even spoke to him? He will know from that MON brings on young players?
He will know we will look after Filligree Baddass!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 22:08:33 GMT
It's almost as if we do have a plan now.
I have faith in MON.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 22:10:20 GMT
We've had Powell out for months. Then Vrancic picked up an injury. Campbell has just come back from a lengthy lay off. Players get injured. Great to have options. Yeah but he doesn’t really play any of their positions, and his position doesn’t exist in our side, that’s why it’s a bit of a weird one. It seemed to work for DWP against Hull.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 19, 2022 22:21:26 GMT
Surely we are over stacked with Midfielder's to add another?. We need quality not quantity
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Post by kustokie on Jan 19, 2022 22:26:17 GMT
I agree, we don’t need him. Seems like another signing for the sake of a signing like Sawyers. Just creates excess wherever you look. You go 343 you have 4 central midfielders that don’t get a game. A couple of wingers and strikers don’t play. He seems a great talent. But it seems like a lot of hassle. There’s still 11 days to go. Who knows whom else we might ship out. This might also signal that neither Thompson nor Powell are anywhere near ready to play and make a difference. We need talent now.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 19, 2022 22:32:10 GMT
how sure are we that he’ll sign?
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