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Post by independent on Jun 19, 2023 9:28:10 GMT
Claims of Bundesliga interest How much would you be willing to pay for him? Is signing him a realistic proposition?
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Post by pzstokie on Jun 19, 2023 9:28:37 GMT
If Jacob Brown is a regular in the starting 11 then we are going to be nowhere near the play offs. Same apples to Thompson,we need much better. This, said the same for the last three seasons, if he starts 10 or more games we will be nowhere near
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Post by Bagwash on Jun 19, 2023 9:33:50 GMT
So because Richard Cresswell did a decent job on the left-wing, all those years ago, Jacob Brown's a shoo-in for the right in today's side? I get it, it makes perfect sense!! I'll overlook the fact that there's little technical ability, almost zero football brain, and he's a player who's most effective, when he's got less than a split-second to think about his next move. He's one of the 'first names on the team sheet' that needs to be upgraded. I will agree that his work-rate is superb, he puts in a good shift, and it helps to mask some of his shortcomings. 'almost zero football brain' > utter nonsense the runs he makes off the ball into the box are far superior to any other player we have, this is due his footballing brain he gets chances precisely because of these runs I wish Ty (who has good technical ability) was smart enough to make those runs (but if he was he would be in the PL) his technical ability, i.e. his close control does still let him down which is why he will never make higher than Championship but he's not some headless chicken who runs about a lot, if he was he would be many many leagues lower That's the thing I struggle to understand,how a professional footballer,who practices with a football nearly every single day has poor close control.Being able to bring a ball under control instantly is a basic skill required for any player.
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 19, 2023 9:49:34 GMT
'almost zero football brain' > utter nonsense the runs he makes off the ball into the box are far superior to any other player we have, this is due his footballing brain he gets chances precisely because of these runs I wish Ty (who has good technical ability) was smart enough to make those runs (but if he was he would be in the PL) his technical ability, i.e. his close control does still let him down which is why he will never make higher than Championship but he's not some headless chicken who runs about a lot, if he was he would be many many leagues lower That's the thing I struggle to understand,how a professional footballer,who practices with a football nearly every single day has poor close control.Being able to bring a ball under control instantly is a basic skill required for any player. Jacob had the 7th most miscontrols of any player in the Championship this season. The ones above him include Gyökeres, João Pedro and Adebayo, all of whom are being linked with or achieved promotion to the Premier League. Just because you have bad control doesn't mean you don't have other qualities that you can bring to a team.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 19, 2023 9:50:20 GMT
Claims of Bundesliga interest How much would you be willing to pay for him? Is signing him a realistic proposition? Tough to guess at the fee, but looking at his market, you'd have to guess at less than £3m, but maybe with a big sell-on %? Suppose it'll only look realistic if he ends up here, and if he goes to Germany, we'll think we never had a chance. But for it to go beyond an initial conversation to the point where the local paper is running with it, we must have been given some encouragement that he's open to it
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 19, 2023 9:50:24 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 19, 2023 9:56:06 GMT
He'll need to add goals to his game, that's for sure, never mind assists.
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 19, 2023 9:58:14 GMT
Can't see Billy Jean happening. When links like this mention interest of other clubs, especially clubs in a top division, chances of us landing them become slim.
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Post by etebojan on Jun 19, 2023 10:06:41 GMT
looks like he's not one that could be announced today then, landing Billy Jean will probably run into next week judging by this
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Post by longthrow on Jun 19, 2023 10:11:19 GMT
Surely if there are two Bundesliga teams (famous now for developing young english talent) he will chose them over the championship
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Post by lordb on Jun 19, 2023 10:22:09 GMT
'almost zero football brain' > utter nonsense the runs he makes off the ball into the box are far superior to any other player we have, this is due his footballing brain he gets chances precisely because of these runs I wish Ty (who has good technical ability) was smart enough to make those runs (but if he was he would be in the PL) his technical ability, i.e. his close control does still let him down which is why he will never make higher than Championship but he's not some headless chicken who runs about a lot, if he was he would be many many leagues lower That's the thing I struggle to understand,how a professional footballer,who practices with a football nearly every single day has poor close control.Being able to bring a ball under control instantly is a basic skill required for any player. but A: he's not brainless the other poster said, far from it B: his control isn't the best but you'd think it was every other ball he mis controlled by reading the stuff on here *edit seen other post above,just 7 mis-controls, you'd think it was 7 a game As with Campbell it's no disaster if either are playing or not playing (but never as a pair) as they contribute more or less the same to the cause I think the 'lazy' tag re Campbell isn't correct either but do think he hasn't improved enough to warrant any talk of pl interest either or both playing either side of a genuine target man who can score (so not Davies) regular enough would both look miles better than they do atm & if JPB is here then any two of those 3 playing is fine by me depending on form/fitness/the opposition e.t.c. we need a 4th one as well, DWP would make sense but if he's struggling to impress AN will have to leave (on loan at least ) & we'd need another
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Post by lordb on Jun 19, 2023 10:22:33 GMT
Surely if there are two Bundesliga teams (famous now for developing young english talent) he will chose them over the championship depends which ones & what they are offering
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Post by nottsover60 on Jun 19, 2023 10:24:45 GMT
So because Richard Cresswell did a decent job on the left-wing, all those years ago, Jacob Brown's a shoo-in for the right in today's side? I get it, it makes perfect sense!! I'll overlook the fact that there's little technical ability, almost zero football brain, and he's a player who's most effective, when he's got less than a split-second to think about his next move. He's one of the 'first names on the team sheet' that needs to be upgraded. I will agree that his work-rate is superb, he puts in a good shift, and it helps to mask some of his shortcomings. 'almost zero football brain' > utter nonsense the runs he makes off the ball into the box are far superior to any other player we have, this is due his footballing brain he gets chances precisely because of these runs I wish Ty (who has good technical ability) was smart enough to make those runs (but if he was he would be in the PL) his technical ability, i.e. his close control does still let him down which is why he will never make higher than Championship but he's not some headless chicken who runs about a lot, if he was he would be many many leagues lower Strange one because I can accept his lack of control and technical ability because he does seem to get chances and if he doesn't have time to think he tends to take them and his runs into the box seem to have improved over time. The reason I get frustrated with him though is his lack of anticipation. Quite often he reacts to the ball rather than seeing or gambling on where it might go so when there is a deflection or a save pushed back into the area his reactions are too slow because he hasn't thought about what might happen. I don't know that that is coachable as it is an instinct. It also happens with some passes made into a space which he could get to if he realised earlier where the ball might be played. Very flat footed player when starting from standing.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 19, 2023 10:25:08 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 19, 2023 10:25:21 GMT
This deal isn’t happening.
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Post by neddy on Jun 19, 2023 10:29:50 GMT
This deal isn’t happening. Probably not if German league real interest but I would like him here re his potential and already having championship experience. We need someone to get the support of their seats type player?
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 19, 2023 11:20:47 GMT
I liked the look of Mavididi in the YouTube footage (yes, I know!) and he's more of a wide forward with goals in his game.
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Post by mr on Jun 19, 2023 11:58:28 GMT
This deal isn’t happening. When interest comes out before a player signs it’s the agent or selling club leaking information to start a bidding war or get a wage increase. It’s of no benefit to Stoke when this info is leaked.
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Post by andystokey on Jun 19, 2023 12:07:50 GMT
That's the thing I struggle to understand,how a professional footballer,who practices with a football nearly every single day has poor close control.Being able to bring a ball under control instantly is a basic skill required for any player. Jacob had the 7th most miscontrols of any player in the Championship this season. The ones above him include Gyökeres, João Pedro and Adebayo, all of whom are being linked with or achieved promotion to the Premier League. Just because you have bad control doesn't mean you don't have other qualities that you can bring to a team. Those higher pressure scoring opportunities happen with often a speculative ball of dubious speed. I think it's more likely it is forwards than defenders square passing to each other all day have the higher percentage of miscontrols.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2023 12:24:58 GMT
I’ve just had a look on a Cardiff forum and they’re talking about the asking price being 500k??? Can’t be right surely. Transfermkt has him listed at £2.8m.
No idea what our budgets look like. On the one hand, I’m nervous about stretching it to the limits this summer, because if we do and end up with a mismatched squad then we risk Groundhog Day. Maybe better to build the squad cheaply and leave plenty of room to gradually add the quality needed over the next few windows (and leave room for a new manager to have funds if it doesn’t work out with AN)
On the other hand, if our first few signings are marquee then it could help in attracting the rest of the players needed, eg guys like sterling who chose other clubs over us.
I suppose you just have to hope AN knows what he’s doing. I’m not sure I can tolerate another season of being wank in this league, let alone another 4/5 seasons.
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Post by sportsman on Jun 19, 2023 12:39:42 GMT
This deal isn’t happening. Can't see a German side in for him because according to on here he's shit.
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Post by sofasurfer on Jun 19, 2023 15:13:45 GMT
'almost zero football brain' > utter nonsense the runs he makes off the ball into the box are far superior to any other player we have, this is due his footballing brain he gets chances precisely because of these runs I wish Ty (who has good technical ability) was smart enough to make those runs (but if he was he would be in the PL) his technical ability, i.e. his close control does still let him down which is why he will never make higher than Championship but he's not some headless chicken who runs about a lot, if he was he would be many many leagues lower That's the thing I struggle to understand,how a professional footballer,who practices with a football nearly every single day has poor close control.Being able to bring a ball under control instantly is a basic skill required for any player. I seem to remember Cloughy when he signed T Francis for a million when asked why he didn't play in the first game after signing his reply "young man ,when he's learnt to trap a ball then he'll get in the side" --(Bet ya impersonated Cloughy whilst ya read that)
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jun 19, 2023 15:42:15 GMT
That's the thing I struggle to understand,how a professional footballer,who practices with a football nearly every single day has poor close control.Being able to bring a ball under control instantly is a basic skill required for any player. I seem to remember Cloughy when he signed T Francis for a million when asked why he didn't play in the first game after signing his reply "young man ,when he's learnt to trap a ball then he'll get in the side" --(Bet ya impersonated Cloughy whilst ya read that) Yes!!! 😔
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Post by onepara on Jun 19, 2023 15:50:00 GMT
I seem to remember Cloughy when he signed T Francis for a million when asked why he didn't play in the first game after signing his reply "young man ,when he's learnt to trap a ball then he'll get in the side" --(Bet ya impersonated Cloughy whilst ya read that) Yes!!! 😔 I did anyway, in that unmistakeable voice.
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Post by independent on Jun 19, 2023 18:26:27 GMT
'almost zero football brain' > utter nonsense the runs he makes off the ball into the box are far superior to any other player we have, this is due his footballing brain he gets chances precisely because of these runs I wish Ty (who has good technical ability) was smart enough to make those runs (but if he was he would be in the PL) his technical ability, i.e. his close control does still let him down which is why he will never make higher than Championship but he's not some headless chicken who runs about a lot, if he was he would be many many leagues lower Strange one because I can accept his lack of control and technical ability because he does seem to get chances and if he doesn't have time to think he tends to take them and his runs into the box seem to have improved over time. The reason I get frustrated with him though is his lack of anticipation. Quite often he reacts to the ball rather than seeing or gambling on where it might go so when there is a deflection or a save pushed back into the area his reactions are too slow because he hasn't thought about what might happen. I don't know that that is coachable as it is an instinct. It also happens with some passes made into a space which he could get to if he realised earlier where the ball might be played. Very flat footed player when starting from standing. Of course you can teach him to play "What If" in training and I think that he has already shown signs that he can learn.
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Post by lordb on Jun 19, 2023 18:29:20 GMT
Strange one because I can accept his lack of control and technical ability because he does seem to get chances and if he doesn't have time to think he tends to take them and his runs into the box seem to have improved over time. The reason I get frustrated with him though is his lack of anticipation. Quite often he reacts to the ball rather than seeing or gambling on where it might go so when there is a deflection or a save pushed back into the area his reactions are too slow because he hasn't thought about what might happen. I don't know that that is coachable as it is an instinct. It also happens with some passes made into a space which he could get to if he realised earlier where the ball might be played. Very flat footed player when starting from standing. Of course you can teach him to play "What If" in training and I think that he has already shown signs that he can learn. He doesn't get into the box at the right time by fluke
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Post by davethebass on Jun 19, 2023 18:43:47 GMT
🎶 Aaa, ooo Philogene Genie he's not a full back Philogene Genie loves scoring stacks He's outrageous A dream at football Philogene Genie, let yourself go Ooo, oww 🎶
Now we've got the song we'd better bloody sign him...
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jun 19, 2023 18:47:17 GMT
A player who could make a break through or fade into obscurity ,talent is there , big move for his career whoever he chooses, get the right coaches and he could one day prove Villa wrong , but he has much work to do , talent on its own not enough
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Post by Picasso on Jun 19, 2023 20:19:52 GMT
🎶 Aaa, ooo Philogene Genie he's not a full back Philogene Genie loves scoring stacks He's outrageous A dream at football Philogene Genie, let yourself go Ooo, oww 🎶 Now we've got the song we'd better bloody sign him... Hopefully he can become our Starman!
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Post by StokieNath on Jun 19, 2023 20:28:13 GMT
Does anyone know if we are getting new season cards or just keeping the same ones?
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