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Post by superalexneil on Feb 9, 2022 10:03:26 GMT
if hes to go anywhere on loan next year hopefully it will be us, but cant see it to be honest.
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Post by andystokey on Feb 9, 2022 10:06:24 GMT
Already shown that he is a level above the championship, not a chance he will be here next season. Not necessarily, he's only 19 and won't be a regular premier league starter for a while yet, if he enjoys his spell here it may suit all parties for him to stay for another season. Villa mate who is close to coaching staff suggests he won't get a first XI breakthrough next year if their recruitment kicks in. I asked if he would go to a PL team on loan and they don't like that idea either. They want him to get 30+ games. So it is possible if we show we are improving him and playing him. Maybe similar to Garner at Forest.
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Post by staffordstokie on Feb 9, 2022 10:37:08 GMT
Absolutely no idea if this is true or total horse shit.
A good mate of mine is a Villa fan - not an ITK fan - but I've been chatting to him about Bidace.
Apparently he's available for £4 million.
Again, no idea if true or not, but if they need some money I would sell my house to contribute towards this.
Sam Surridge £2.5m or Bidace £4m? No brainer.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 9, 2022 10:42:10 GMT
Absolutely no idea if this is true or total horse shit. A good mate of mine is a Villa fan - not an ITK fan - but I've been chatting to him about Bidace. Apparently he's available for £4 million. Again, no idea if true or not, but if they need some money I would sell my house to contribute towards this. Sam Surridge £2.5m or Bidace £4m? No brainer. Total horse shit🤣🤣
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 9, 2022 10:44:14 GMT
Absolutely no idea if this is true or total horse shit. A good mate of mine is a Villa fan - not an ITK fan - but I've been chatting to him about Bidace. Apparently he's available for £4 million. Again, no idea if true or not, but if they need some money I would sell my house to contribute towards this. Sam Surridge £2.5m or Bidace £4m? No brainer. Buy, buy, buy! 🤣
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 9, 2022 11:06:26 GMT
Absolutely no idea if this is true or total horse shit. A good mate of mine is a Villa fan - not an ITK fan - but I've been chatting to him about Bidace. Apparently he's available for £4 million. Again, no idea if true or not, but if they need some money I would sell my house to contribute towards this. Sam Surridge £2.5m or Bidace £4m? No brainer. Buy, buy, buy! 🤣 Doubt it’s true but we simply must find a way to do it if it is.
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Post by staffordstokie on Feb 9, 2022 11:06:31 GMT
Absolutely no idea if this is true or total horse shit. A good mate of mine is a Villa fan - not an ITK fan - but I've been chatting to him about Bidace. Apparently he's available for £4 million. Again, no idea if true or not, but if they need some money I would sell my house to contribute towards this. Sam Surridge £2.5m or Bidace £4m? No brainer. Total horse shit🤣🤣 I suspect you might be right! £4 million for him? It this was true, I think he'd have been signed by now.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Feb 9, 2022 11:11:24 GMT
Absolutely no idea if this is true or total horse shit. A good mate of mine is a Villa fan - not an ITK fan - but I've been chatting to him about Bidace. Apparently he's available for £4 million. Again, no idea if true or not, but if they need some money I would sell my house to contribute towards this. Sam Surridge £2.5m or Bidace £4m? No brainer. Next season he is available for loan for a 4 million fee is probably more correct.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 9, 2022 11:12:45 GMT
I suspect you might be right! £4 million for him? It this was true, I think he'd have been signed by now. Not by us he wouldn’t because of FFP With his skill and attitude I’d expect he has a very big future ahead of him
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 9, 2022 11:13:14 GMT
Doubt it’s true but we simply must find a way to do it if it is. No doubt about it, it's nowhere near true. This time next year he'll be in the Villa first team, and not long after that you'll be sticking a 0 after the 4!
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Post by potterburt on Feb 9, 2022 11:20:58 GMT
His actual market value given experience is £500k - it wouldnt be absurd for there to be a £4m to buy clause in his contract. It would be a good clause for a youngster to have to ensure they don’t get stuck for too long behind another first teamer.
Of course if any of that were the case and a bid came in, Villa would just offer him a new improved contract with new integration promises etc anyway.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 9, 2022 11:28:22 GMT
His actual market value given experience is £500k - it wouldnt be absurd for there to be a £4m to buy clause in his contract. It would be a good clause for a youngster to have to ensure they don’t get stuck for too long behind another first teamer. Of course if any of that were the case and a bid came in, Villa would just offer him a new improved contract with new integration promises etc anyway. Strange that an independent tribunal set a far higher price for Tyreece, how long ago ?
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Post by potterburt on Feb 9, 2022 11:54:06 GMT
His actual market value given experience is £500k - it wouldnt be absurd for there to be a £4m to buy clause in his contract. It would be a good clause for a youngster to have to ensure they don’t get stuck for too long behind another first teamer. Of course if any of that were the case and a bid came in, Villa would just offer him a new improved contract with new integration promises etc anyway. Strange that an independent tribunal set a far higher price for Tyreece, how long ago ? 🤷🏻♂️ if you find that strange then I suggest that you get a bit more accustomed with how football transfers operate?
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Post by chad on Feb 9, 2022 12:05:18 GMT
The only way we sign this lad is if we get promoted Even then he’d probably have better offers
He looks the real deal
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 9, 2022 12:55:13 GMT
Strange that an independent tribunal set a far higher price for Tyreece, how long ago ? 🤷🏻♂️ if you find that strange then I suggest that you get a bit more accustomed with how football transfers operate? You're off your head. Even if he was out of contract (I have no idea what his contract situation is) you'd be looking at a fee rising to perhaps £2.5M
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 9, 2022 13:00:27 GMT
He’s on the cusp right now of being ready to make the step up I think. Decision making probably the only question mark at times but he’s getting in the right places, he’s working hard and playing with real confidence.
He’s a real talent and hopefully we can help him develop into a player who reaches his full potential.
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Post by potterburt on Feb 9, 2022 13:46:19 GMT
🤷🏻♂️ if you find that strange then I suggest that you get a bit more accustomed with how football transfers operate? You're off your head. Even if he was out of contract (I have no idea what his contract situation is) you'd be looking at a fee rising to perhaps £2.5M I’m off my head? And you’re the one saying that a player out of contract would have a transfer fee rising to £2.5m… 🤔 😂 please refer to previous comment relating to ‘better understanding transfer’
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Post by Championship Potter on Feb 9, 2022 14:02:22 GMT
We could do with him holding back a bit to ensure we get him on loan next season too! Villa looked well stocked for young players with Davies and Archer looking good in this league too.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 9, 2022 14:42:25 GMT
You're off your head. Even if he was out of contract (I have no idea what his contract situation is) you'd be looking at a fee rising to perhaps £2.5M I’m off my head? And you’re the one saying that a player out of contract would have a transfer fee rising to £2.5m… 🤔 😂 please refer to previous comment relating to ‘better understanding transfer’ Like I said an independent panel valued Tyreece at £1.5M a few years ago and that was a player not ready to play mens football not even made his league debut from the bench. Now you think a player with league appearances and a goal would only command a value of £500K a few years later and like I said Ty was definitely out of contract know nothing of this lads contract at Villa. You’re in cloud cuckoo land.
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Post by potterburt on Feb 9, 2022 16:23:53 GMT
I’m off my head? And you’re the one saying that a player out of contract would have a transfer fee rising to £2.5m… 🤔 😂 please refer to previous comment relating to ‘better understanding transfer’ Like I said an independent panel valued Tyreece at £1.5M a few years ago and that was a player not ready to play mens football not even made his league debut from the bench. Now you think a player with league appearances and a goal would only command a value of £500K a few years later and like I said Ty was definitely out of contract know nothing of this lads contract at Villa. You’re in cloud cuckoo land. Yeah… it was actually £1.65m for Ty. A tribunal set the fee because he signed a contract with us while still contracted with MC. He was not out of contract, hence the fee going to MC to compensate them for the investment in his development. I don’t think anything as to JPGs value being £500k - as I said, that is his market value www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jaden-philogene-bidace/profil/spieler/665390Transfer fees tend to be more than what the value of a player actually is based on numerous factors. Once again, please refer to previous comment and take it upon yourself to get a better scope of transfers before blabbing self-opinionated bollox
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 9, 2022 16:45:37 GMT
Like I said an independent panel valued Tyreece at £1.5M a few years ago and that was a player not ready to play mens football not even made his league debut from the bench. Now you think a player with league appearances and a goal would only command a value of £500K a few years later and like I said Ty was definitely out of contract know nothing of this lads contract at Villa. You’re in cloud cuckoo land. Yeah… it was actually £1.65m for Ty. A tribunal set the fee because he signed a contract with us while still contracted with MC. He was not out of contract, hence the fee going to MC to compensate them for the investment in his development. I don’t think anything as to JPGs value being £500k - as I said, that is his market value www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jaden-philogene-bidace/profil/spieler/665390Transfer fees tend to be more than what the value of a player actually is based on numerous factors. Once again, please refer to previous comment and take it upon yourself to get a better scope of transfers before blabbing self-opinionated bollox He was out of contract. The tribunal set the fee because that’s what happens when out of contract players aged 23 or under sign for another club domestically when the club that holds their registration is offering them terms. It is claimed to be compensation for their role in the players development. There is no system of tribunals deciding fees for contracted players. If he were over 23 he’d be able to leave without a fee on a Bosman. Your posts aren’t opinionated bollox, just plain wrong.
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Post by potterburt on Feb 9, 2022 17:02:59 GMT
Yeah… it was actually £1.65m for Ty. A tribunal set the fee because he signed a contract with us while still contracted with MC. He was not out of contract, hence the fee going to MC to compensate them for the investment in his development. I don’t think anything as to JPGs value being £500k - as I said, that is his market value www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jaden-philogene-bidace/profil/spieler/665390Transfer fees tend to be more than what the value of a player actually is based on numerous factors. Once again, please refer to previous comment and take it upon yourself to get a better scope of transfers before blabbing self-opinionated bollox He was out of contract. The tribunal set the fee because that’s what happens when out of contract players aged 23 or under sign for another club domestically when the club that holds their registration is offering them terms. It is claimed to be compensation for their role in the players development. There is no system of tribunals deciding fees for contracted players. If he were over 23 he’d be able to leave without a fee on a Bosman. Your posts aren’t opinionated bollox, just plain wrong. Oopsie, you just contradicted yourself in about 3 instances there…. 😬 Obviously no point trying to converse with someone such as yourself on such basic matters. All I’ve said about JPB is that his market value is currently £500k which I’ve shared the reference to. And… You’re just chatting broken biscuits. Enjoy!
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 9, 2022 17:06:08 GMT
He was out of contract. The tribunal set the fee because that’s what happens when out of contract players aged 23 or under sign for another club domestically when the club that holds their registration is offering them terms. It is claimed to be compensation for their role in the players development. There is no system of tribunals deciding fees for contracted players. If he were over 23 he’d be able to leave without a fee on a Bosman. Your posts aren’t opinionated bollox, just plain wrong. Oopsie, you just contradicted yourself in about 3 instances there…. 😬 Obviously no point trying to converse with someone such as yourself on such basic matters. All I’ve said about JPB is that his market value is currently £500k which I’ve shared the reference to. And… You’re just chatting broken biscuits. Enjoy! Naah afraid not. You just don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 9, 2022 17:08:02 GMT
Up until yesterday, I thought we stood a chance of getting him back on loan next season. He’s obviously talented, but hadn’t really outshone anyone. Yesterday he made their right back look like a fan who’d come onto the pitch for a kick about. That right back was Cyrus Christie, whose had a very decent career at this level and is still only 29.
I’d be shocked if Gerrard gets a summary of his performances at the end of the year and decides he isn’t ready to be on the bench for them if he keeps that level up.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 10, 2022 15:19:52 GMT
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Post by fraybentos on Feb 12, 2022 17:46:13 GMT
class act, again and very unlucky not to score with those long range efforts. I wish there was a chance of signing him
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 12, 2022 17:47:10 GMT
If Villa don’t keep Coutinho permanently you would have to say JPB starts for Villa.
He really is a frighteningly good footballer.
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Post by houstonsteve on Feb 12, 2022 17:50:54 GMT
the way he is going he is playing himself into villas first team squad for next season. Probably not going to happen but a season long loan next year would be awesome. He seems to be enjoying his time here.
He still needs to work on his decision making and releasing the ball a bit quicker (which to be fair is often because hes waiting for another Stoke player to move) but otherwise a top notch player. Hes really strong on the ball as well.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 12, 2022 17:54:21 GMT
If we could keep that team together for next season we’d be in great shape.
We’ve threats all over the pitch and play decent football
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 12, 2022 18:06:47 GMT
If he can go for £4m,there will be a few Premiership sides in for him.
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