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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 22, 2022 7:42:58 GMT
Only just noticed there are quite a lot more coloured dots than names. And what do the colours mean anyway? Loads of dots without names in the target quarter. Are Wilmot’s progressive stats skewed by playing RB/RWB on quite a few occasions? There's some players who's names are not on there, he's replied separately for about 15 of them...... And the shaded area is the 75th and 25th percentile..... There’s an extra dot by R Dickie unnamed. We should go for him no one will be on to him lol.
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Post by Northy on Apr 22, 2022 7:48:45 GMT
This suggests two things to me: 1) Harry Souttar is worth his weight in gold 2) THB and Souttar would be a potentially brilliant centre half pairing or as part of a back three with Wilmott. So if we can sign Dickie from QPR and Bournemouth's Captain we'd have 3 great centre halves Or hopefully Taylor and Forrester develop quickly enough to form a formidable back 3
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 22, 2022 7:53:15 GMT
This suggests two things to me: 1) Harry Souttar is worth his weight in gold 2) THB and Souttar would be a potentially brilliant centre half pairing or as part of a back three with Wilmott. So if we can sign Dickie from QPR and Bournemouth's Captain we'd have 3 great centre halves Or hopefully Taylor and Forrester develop quickly enough to form a formidable back 3 M Wallace looks a decent punt. Swap deal for Afobe.
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Post by Northy on Apr 22, 2022 7:55:34 GMT
So if we can sign Dickie from QPR and Bournemouth's Captain we'd have 3 great centre halves Or hopefully Taylor and Forrester develop quickly enough to form a formidable back 3 M Wallace looks a decent punt. Swap deal for Afobe. Good idea, but we'd have to pay a shit load for his last seasons wages
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 22, 2022 8:01:46 GMT
M Wallace looks a decent punt. Swap deal for Afobe. Good idea, but we'd have to pay a shit load for his last seasons wages Who Afobe? I wouldn’t imagine Millwall have paid a massive proportion of his wages anyhow.
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Post by Northy on Apr 22, 2022 12:24:08 GMT
Good idea, but we'd have to pay a shit load for his last seasons wages Who Afobe? I wouldn’t imagine Millwall have paid a massive proportion of his wages anyhow. Yes, I meant we would have to pay his wages to Millwall as part of the deal
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 22, 2022 12:39:02 GMT
Who Afobe? I wouldn’t imagine Millwall have paid a massive proportion of his wages anyhow. Yes, I meant we would have to pay his wages to Millwall as part of the deal Just assuming whatever happens we'll have to subsidise his wages for another year.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 23, 2022 7:23:26 GMT
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 23, 2022 7:36:23 GMT
Harry Souttar is a beast isn't he... If he hadn't got injured, he'd be gone this summer for a huge sum of money IMO. A prem team would have come calling and he'd have gone. That's the issue with having a team full of talented players that are poorly managed, all the potential but will just get picked off by other "bigger" teams as we fail to even challenge for promotion season after season
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 23, 2022 7:37:52 GMT
Harry Souttar is a beast isn't he... If he hadn't got injured, he'd be gone this summer for a huge sum of money IMO. A prem team would have come calling and he'd have gone. That's the issue with having a team full of talented players that are poorly managed, all the potential but will just get picked off by other "bigger" teams as we fail to even challenge for promotion season after season I would argue Souttar has been perfectly managed to date, from his loans to his introduction into the first team and beyond........
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Post by mowlee on Apr 23, 2022 7:46:14 GMT
big harry will give us one more season then he’ll probably be off
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Post by andystokey on Apr 23, 2022 8:28:22 GMT
Harry Souttar is a beast isn't he... If he hadn't got injured, he'd be gone this summer for a huge sum of money IMO. A prem team would have come calling and he'd have gone. That's the issue with having a team full of talented players that are poorly managed, all the potential but will just get picked off by other "bigger" teams as we fail to even challenge for promotion season after season I would argue Souttar has been perfectly managed to date, from his loans to his introduction into the first team and beyond........ Playing 40 odd games in competitive lower league football helped him massively, under good coaching. I'm hoping the same happened with Taylor who I hope stays to play next year. Wilmot Souttar and Taylor as a three would be really exciting.
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 23, 2022 8:30:06 GMT
Harry Souttar is a beast isn't he... If he hadn't got injured, he'd be gone this summer for a huge sum of money IMO. A prem team would have come calling and he'd have gone. That's the issue with having a team full of talented players that are poorly managed, all the potential but will just get picked off by other "bigger" teams as we fail to even challenge for promotion season after season I would argue Souttar has been perfectly managed to date, from his loans to his introduction into the first team and beyond........ My point about being poorly managed wasn't about Souttar's development mate, it was about the shit management which has left us in mid table mediocrity for another year.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 23, 2022 11:34:12 GMT
I would argue Souttar has been perfectly managed to date, from his loans to his introduction into the first team and beyond........ My point about being poorly managed wasn't about Souttar's development mate, it was about the shit management which has left us in mid table mediocrity for another year. I would argue differently for a number of reasons…….
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 23, 2022 11:51:46 GMT
My point about being poorly managed wasn't about Souttar's development mate, it was about the shit management which has left us in mid table mediocrity for another year. I would argue differently for a number of reasons……. Go on...
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Post by mrrine on Apr 23, 2022 14:19:43 GMT
Horrific player as it stands.
I'll be content when he's gone back.
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Post by Davef on Apr 23, 2022 14:37:10 GMT
Horrific player as it stands. I'll be content when he's gone back. Yeah, Man City have a long tradition of developing "horrific" players.
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Post by mrrine on Apr 23, 2022 14:58:09 GMT
Horrific player as it stands. I'll be content when he's gone back. Yeah, Man City have a long tradition of developing "horrific" players. 'As it stands'. Even if he does develop, it's at our expense. FYI - Their track record of developing other players has got nothing to do with us suffering his fixation on making (often) game changing mistakes this season.
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Post by Davef on Apr 23, 2022 15:45:46 GMT
Yeah, Man City have a long tradition of developing "horrific" players. 'As it stands'. Even if he does develop, it's at our expense. FYI - Their track record of developing other players has got nothing to do with us suffering his fixation on making (often) game changing mistakes this season. Well he's not an horrific player is he? That's just ridiculous.
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Post by mrrine on Apr 23, 2022 16:05:58 GMT
'As it stands'. Even if he does develop, it's at our expense. FYI - Their track record of developing other players has got nothing to do with us suffering his fixation on making (often) game changing mistakes this season. Well he's not an horrific player is he? That's just ridiculous. In your opinion... In mine, he's not a defender at all, constantly costs us with his errors, takes the place of our own players, academy or otherwise, takes up another loan slot and at the end of all of it he's back off to Man city. He has his strengths - all stated on the stats bit above, but I don't think its remotely ridiculous to say he's a horrific defender.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2022 16:12:11 GMT
Apart from one mistake from Bursik's pass he was excellent today playing on his wrong side.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 23, 2022 16:19:43 GMT
He’s a decent player but I’d rather we have one of our 2 young CBs a chance next season. A pool of Souter, Jags, Wilmot, Taylor and Forrester is a decent pool of players with maybe one more if we’re going to play with 3 CBs. I’d rather we invested our money in other positions.
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Post by nonameface on Apr 23, 2022 16:21:06 GMT
Apart from one mistake from Bursik's pass he was excellent today playing on his wrong side. What about the pass from wilmot? Apart from being comfortable on the left side he's not as good as Wilmott at CB in my eyes.
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Post by mrrine on Apr 23, 2022 16:22:42 GMT
Apart from one mistake from Bursik's pass he was excellent today playing on his wrong side. What about the pass from wilmot? Apart from being comfortable on the left side he's not as good as Wilmott at CB in my eyes. Caught out at the back for their header around 70 mins too.
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Post by Davef on Apr 23, 2022 16:55:07 GMT
Well he's not an horrific player is he? That's just ridiculous. In your opinion... In mine, he's not a defender at all, constantly costs us with his errors, takes the place of our own players, academy or otherwise, takes up another loan slot and at the end of all of it he's back off to Man city. He has his strengths - all stated on the stats bit above, but I don't think its remotely ridiculous to say he's a horrific defender. Im your opinion.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2022 16:55:59 GMT
He was fine bar that shit touch.
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Post by iamstokie on Apr 23, 2022 16:58:01 GMT
He was fine bar that shit touch. Fine is stretching it tbh , he’s clumsy and caught out a lot
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2022 17:05:52 GMT
He was fine bar that shit touch. Fine is stretching it tbh , he’s clumsy and caught out a lot QPR didn’t have a sniff.
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Post by iamstokie on Apr 23, 2022 17:08:29 GMT
Fine is stretching it tbh , he’s clumsy and caught out a lot QPR didn’t have a sniff. Because they’re shit nowt do with thb
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2022 17:10:15 GMT
Because they’re shit nowt do with thb They were shit but the defence were untroubled. The only trouble was a situation Wilmot unnecessarily created.
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