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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 14, 2022 10:35:37 GMT
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Post by serpico on Jan 14, 2022 10:40:37 GMT
They're going to ruin the career of one of the greatest sportsmen of all time because he won't get a vaccine for a disease he's had twice and recovered from, a vaccine which, as pfizers own CEO has admitted, offers virtually no protection from Omicron and only "reasonable" protection from hospitalisation if you get the 3rd dose! on top of this he's at very low risk to begin with! it would be illogical for him to get the vaccine now, absolutely bonkers!
The branch covidians don't care about logic though, the covid cult wants to burn a witch.
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Post by superjw on Jan 14, 2022 11:21:34 GMT
They're going to ruin the career of one of the greatest sportsmen of all time because he won't get a vaccine for a disease he's had twice and recovered from, a vaccine which, as pfizers own CEO has admitted, offers virtually no protection from Omicron and only "reasonable" protection from hospitalisation if you get the 3rd dose! on top of this he's at very low risk to begin with! it would be illogical for him to get the vaccine now, absolutely bonkers! The branch covidians don't care about logic though, the covid cult wants to burn a witch. It's all a load of political grandstanding to "make an example" of a public figure who has taken a decision to not get jabbed. Kind of a "look here, this is what happens if you don't get jabbed" just a big PR attempt by Australia. I imagine Novak will be requesting an appeal, because he can. That will get him playing in the open. Wouldn't be too crazy if he manages to play a couple of games, get himself knocked out and leave before the appeal ends and he gets kicked out.
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Post by franklin on Jan 14, 2022 11:22:47 GMT
They're going to ruin the career of one of the greatest sportsmen of all time because he won't get a vaccine for a disease he's had twice and recovered from, a vaccine which, as pfizers own CEO has admitted, offers virtually no protection from Omicron and only "reasonable" protection from hospitalisation if you get the 3rd dose! on top of this he's at very low risk to begin with! it would be illogical for him to get the vaccine now, absolutely bonkers! The branch covidians don't care about logic though, the covid cult wants to burn a witch. For me it's to show us plebs what could/will happen of I refuse to get a vaccine. We'll fuck up a rich powerful man so imagine what we'll do to you a normal person who can't afford legal fees and barrister's to fight for you.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 14, 2022 11:34:05 GMT
They're going to ruin the career of one of the greatest sportsmen of all time because he won't get a vaccine for a disease he's had twice and recovered from, a vaccine which, as pfizers own CEO has admitted, offers virtually no protection from Omicron and only "reasonable" protection from hospitalisation if you get the 3rd dose! on top of this he's at very low risk to begin with! it would be illogical for him to get the vaccine now, absolutely bonkers! The branch covidians don't care about logic though, the covid cult wants to burn a witch. For me it's to show us plebs what could/will happen of I refuse to get a vaccine. We'll fuck up a rich powerful man so imagine what we'll do to you a normal person who can't afford legal fees and barrister's to fight for you. Exactly, that's not really a world I want. It's sad really. And those who claim 'decisions have consequences' - either you're against the idea of condemning minorities, or you're not. You can't pick and choose. Anyone would think he's a paedophile the way this is dragging on.
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Post by flea79 on Jan 14, 2022 11:44:53 GMT
rich man breaks clear rules
rich man is upset when foreign country gets upset with him for breaking clear rules and lying about this
rich man should get on his private plane and go home
rich man thinks he is better than this and carries on making a show of himself
rich man looks like prize tit really.....
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 14, 2022 11:52:17 GMT
rich man breaks clear rules rich man is upset when foreign country gets upset with him for breaking clear rules and lying about this rich man should get on his private plane and go home rich man thinks he is better than this and carries on making a show of himself rich man looks like prize tit really..... What about if it's a poor man? This transcends beyond the individual, it's symptomatic of a global issue. I really hope that Australia are an outlier on this.
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Post by flea79 on Jan 14, 2022 11:55:50 GMT
rich man breaks clear rules rich man is upset when foreign country gets upset with him for breaking clear rules and lying about this rich man should get on his private plane and go home rich man thinks he is better than this and carries on making a show of himself rich man looks like prize tit really..... What about if it's a poor man? This transcends beyond the individual, it's symptomatic of a global issue. I really hope that Australia are an outlier on this. im just on about this case, a poor man wouldnt be flying to Australia! it seriously smacks of a man who believes due to his status in a niche sport he is above following the rules of the countries he visits
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 14, 2022 12:05:09 GMT
What about if it's a poor man? This transcends beyond the individual, it's symptomatic of a global issue. I really hope that Australia are an outlier on this. im just on about this case, a poor man wouldnt be flying to Australia! it seriously smacks of a man who believes due to his status in a niche sport he is above following the rules of the countries he visits I don't think Djokovic would either if he didn't think he would be able to. He was fully prepared to miss the tournament until he was positive, then realised he could get an exemption, which was granted. Do you think he just went over there and chanced it?
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Post by franklin on Jan 14, 2022 12:07:05 GMT
What about if it's a poor man? This transcends beyond the individual, it's symptomatic of a global issue. I really hope that Australia are an outlier on this. im just on about this case, a poor man wouldnt be flying to Australia! it seriously smacks of a man who believes due to his status in a niche sport he is above following the rules of the countries he visits He's going for work its his job and as far as we know hasn't broken any laws but you are right my son isn't able to go back to his "home" and his missus in Brisbane. He's in a long delayed queue for his visa renewal and opening of the border. He lost his job (covid) and was at risk of issues with his work visa and deportation so decided to come home not expecting covid to drag on. Now he's stuck in limbo as he can't afford and is unable to get back now.
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Post by flea79 on Jan 14, 2022 14:00:20 GMT
im just on about this case, a poor man wouldnt be flying to Australia! it seriously smacks of a man who believes due to his status in a niche sport he is above following the rules of the countries he visits I don't think Djokovic would either if he didn't think he would be able to. He was fully prepared to miss the tournament until he was positive, then realised he could get an exemption, which was granted. Do you think he just went over there and chanced it? I to be honest imagine he does very little for himself and his advisers have failed miserably in the way they have managed this for him
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jan 14, 2022 14:37:19 GMT
Good on Oz. I think he shot himself in the foot with the tick box completed by his agent(only the naive believe that) and his public engagements around his positive test times. I don't give a toss about political motivations, but generally the Aussie attitude is straight up and they call a spade a spade with no pandering. Fair play and they won't care what the world thinks. Absolutely. We need some of the no nonsense that brexit has allegedly given us over here. The rules apply to everyone equally, wether you’re on a rubber dinghy, private jet or went to school at Eton.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 14, 2022 14:38:25 GMT
I don't think Djokovic would either if he didn't think he would be able to. He was fully prepared to miss the tournament until he was positive, then realised he could get an exemption, which was granted. Do you think he just went over there and chanced it? I to be honest imagine he does very little for himself and his advisers have failed miserably in the way they have managed this for him Didn't they win the court case? Bizarre take. Don't really understand why anyone would defend a draconian and needlessly authoritarian government over the freedom / rights of an individual who has done nothing but make an informed decision not to have a medical procedure with no known long-term side-effects. And that doesn't just apply to Djokovic but others in his situation. You seem to have already made your mind up that Djokovic is swanning around like an arrogant, pompous and entitled twat. That's your prerogative but let's not also forget he spent the first half of his life growing up in conditions that neither of us would have ever come close to experiencing.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 14, 2022 14:42:21 GMT
Good on Oz. I think he shot himself in the foot with the tick box completed by his agent(only the naive believe that) and his public engagements around his positive test times. I don't give a toss about political motivations, but generally the Aussie attitude is straight up and they call a spade a spade with no pandering. Fair play and they won't care what the world thinks. Absolutely. We need some of the no nonsense that brexit has allegedly given us over here. The rules apply to everyone equally, wether you’re on a rubber dinghy, private jet or went to school at Eton. I agree with that Ashley, but they shouldn't be rules. The rules are fucking ridiculous and lead to more problems and division than the benefits they supposedly bring. The quicker we can get out of this pandemic and just accept COVID for what it is, akin to yearly flu, the sooner we can all move on with our lives regardless of vaccination status.
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Post by musik on Jan 14, 2022 14:46:14 GMT
First of all, I haven't followed this much ... ok. 🤠 But what seems to bother the media and some people is that he held interviews when he had Covid-19 knowing it, but without telling anyone.
The media here speaks of prison. I don't know how accurate they are.
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Post by musik on Jan 14, 2022 14:53:35 GMT
The quicker we can get out of this pandemic and just accept COVID for what it is, akin to yearly flu, the sooner we can all move on with our lives regardless of vaccination status. You speak of an ultimate acceptance here though. But I'm afraid it won't be like that. Our so called experts (FHM et cetera) over here also speaks of acceptance, for many many years to come. What they mean is getting used to social distancing, masks, jabs every year, twice a year or as a daily routine (pill). We've just seen the beginning, they say. Not the beginning of Covid-19, but the beginning of precautions. That's "Covid for what it is". Do you think there will be any reactions?
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Post by cerebralstokie on Jan 14, 2022 15:55:52 GMT
Nobody is emerging from this fiasco with any credit. It now appears that Djokovic submitted incorrect information to the immigration authorities in the first place. Doubtless the Tennis and State of Victoria could see Aussie$ signs dangling in front of their eyes if he participated. The Aussie Govt. was keen to demonstrate that rank did not allow individuals to breach their strict rules on immigration. It would have been sensible if the tennis, Victoria State Authorities and Australian Government had communicating effectively before a decision was made. A Court of Law came to the conclusion that the Government was out of order in refusing him entry. Observers like Nigel Farage decided that the Australian Government's strict laws (which he had applauded as an example of how to control immigration in the Brexit debate) were "nasty" when it came to wanting to exclude an unvaccinated individual (though having immunity as a result of an earlier Covid infection)from entering the country. To me, this Board seems to have become a proxy war between vaxers and antivaxers. As I commented earlier a complete and monumental balls up.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 14, 2022 22:12:26 GMT
I don’t watch Tennis often but if Djokovic is allowed to play I’ll tune in to every game he plays and will be backing him to the hilt!
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 14, 2022 22:26:33 GMT
I don’t watch Tennis often but if Djokovic is allowed to play I’ll tune in to every game he plays and will be backing him to the hilt! Imagine our shock... 😲😉
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 14, 2022 22:28:48 GMT
I don’t watch Tennis often but if Djokovic is allowed to play I’ll tune in to every game he plays and will be backing him to the hilt! Imagine our shock... 😲😉 😉
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Post by felonious on Jan 16, 2022 6:37:38 GMT
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Post by felonious on Jan 16, 2022 6:38:42 GMT
15 minutes
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 16, 2022 6:40:09 GMT
The judges now chewing the fat.
The Aussie government case is basically Djokovic’s continued presence in Australia will cause a rise in anti-vax sentiment because he has refused to be vaccinated and is therefore a risk to public health.
A hypothetical case.
The defence is arguing that the counter is just as likely. Deporting him will inflame opinion and drive up anti-vac sentiment.
Noting the Aussie government case is not based on fact but hypothesis, it’s hard to see the court ruling in their favour. Leastways, that how i see it.
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Post by Boothen on Jan 16, 2022 6:53:52 GMT
Allowing this lying cunt to stay and potentially earn millions in a tennis tournament will be a massive kick in the bollocks to all those 'normal' people who weren't allowed into Australia to be with their dying loved ones.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jan 16, 2022 6:57:24 GMT
Looks like his appeal has been dismissed. Off he goes.
That possibly brings to an end a saga with the impressive feat of everyone involved in the case (on every side) coming across like an absolute weapon.
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Post by noustie on Jan 16, 2022 7:09:21 GMT
Just said on the news the basis of Australia Immigration case was that his decision not to get the vaccine may encourage others to follow so should be deported on public health grounds.
Fucking about on his forms I can understand, and any pleb caught doing that would be knackered for going anywhere else, but this sets a dangerous precedent.
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Post by Boothen on Jan 16, 2022 7:16:08 GMT
Doesn't he now have to declare this deportation on any future visas for entry into other countries? Will be fun to see if any other countries have the bollocks to refuse him entry.
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Post by felonious on Jan 16, 2022 7:27:48 GMT
Just said on the news the basis of Australia Immigration case was that his decision not to get the vaccine may encourage others to follow so should be deported on public health grounds. Fucking about on his forms I can understand, and any pleb caught doing that would be knackered for going anywhere else, but this sets a dangerous precedent. He's zero threat to Australian public health.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 16, 2022 7:46:29 GMT
Doesn't he now have to declare this deportation on any future visas for entry into other countries? Will be fun to see if any other countries have the bollocks to refuse him entry. I hope we don’t let him in for Wimbledon without getting vaccinated or having a valid medical exemption.
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Post by andystokey on Jan 16, 2022 8:15:34 GMT
Doesn't he now have to declare this deportation on any future visas for entry into other countries? Will be fun to see if any other countries have the bollocks to refuse him entry. I hope we don’t let him in for Wimbledon without getting vaccinated or having a valid medical exemption. Why? We have no border rules on vaccination for Covid. I assume you just want to single him out prejudicially because you don't like him.
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