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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 10, 2022 23:56:17 GMT
Imagine living in a world where people start rioting over someone going somewhere to play tennis.
Oh wait, we do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 0:15:41 GMT
Imagine living in a world where people start rioting over someone going somewhere to play tennis. Oh wait, we do. Not sure that's happened. Perhaps the odd glass of Pims spilt on Henman Hill and an exchange of flying Waitrose mini quiches when he lost his annual quarter final. Buster Mottram looked like a man who would enjoy a good tennis riot though.
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Post by starkiller on Jan 11, 2022 1:44:32 GMT
Imagine living in a world where people start rioting over someone going somewhere to play tennis. Oh wait, we do. Psycovids.
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Post by superjw on Jan 11, 2022 10:20:08 GMT
Aparrently there is now an investigation into Novak's whereabouts in the 14 days leading up to his arrival as false information could have been given on his visa forms.
screams to be of the government looking for a legal way to kick him out after the court loss, but obviously if true he will end up being deported but surely this would be one of the first things verified by border authorities as soon as he landed?
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Post by noustie on Jan 11, 2022 13:30:53 GMT
The way that press conference was suddenly ended by his brother tells you all you need to know about Novak Djokovic I think Djokovic is coming out of this looking a right twat to be honest but it tells us what we need to know about someone who plays tennis. How the Australian government have handled it, by the same token, tells us what we need to know about them running a sizable country and is of far greater concern for me.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 11, 2022 13:44:24 GMT
The way that press conference was suddenly ended by his brother tells you all you need to know about Novak Djokovic I think Djokovic is coming out of this looking a right twat to be honest but it tells us what we need to know about someone who plays tennis. How the Australian government have handled it, by the same token, tells us what we need to know about them running a sizable country and is of far greater concern for me. Agree on Djokovic but I think the Australian public might disagree on your last point judging by their reaction in the media
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 11, 2022 14:57:10 GMT
Aparrently there is now an investigation into Novak's whereabouts in the 14 days leading up to his arrival as false information could have been given on his visa forms. screams to be of the government looking for a legal way to kick him out after the court loss, but obviously if true he will end up being deported but surely this would be one of the first things verified by border authorities as soon as he landed? While I don't think Novax Djokovic should have been held at the border when proof of a negative COVID test can be shown, he does have some off-the-wall views. One thing he said was that positive thoughts can clean polluted water. So I don't think he helps himself with claims like that.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 11, 2022 17:49:48 GMT
Aparrently there is now an investigation into Novak's whereabouts in the 14 days leading up to his arrival as false information could have been given on his visa forms. screams to be of the government looking for a legal way to kick him out after the court loss, but obviously if true he will end up being deported but surely this would be one of the first things verified by border authorities as soon as he landed? While I don't think Novax Djokovic should have been held at the border when proof of a negative COVID test can be shown, he does have some off-the-wall views. One thing he said was that positive thoughts can clean polluted water. So I don't think he helps himself with claims like that. I’m able to drink pints of my own piss when I think happy vibes…🤣
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 12, 2022 9:42:30 GMT
Looks like Djokovic and his advisers have a lot in common with Boris and his🤔
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 12, 2022 9:57:42 GMT
Looks like Djokovic and his advisers have a lot in common with Boris and his🤔 Didn't realise he was the Serbian Prime Minister who makes the rules. Won't be long until being positive means fuck all and you can just go about your business assuming you're asymptomatic. If we didn't test for this then the vast majority wouldn't even know they'd got it. We will get to that point eventually it's just taking a lot longer than I ever imagined. Too many people thinking Covid now is still what it was in May 2020. It's not. Akin to a common cold now for almost everyone who gets it, particularly with vaccination. Shows this nonsense up for what it is, morally superior people thinking they can cast judgment on anyone and everyone, yet another negative consequence of these supposedly helpful restrictions.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 12, 2022 10:06:35 GMT
Looks like Djokovic and his advisers have a lot in common with Boris and his🤔 Didn't realise he was the Serbian Prime Minister who makes the rules. Won't be long until being positive means fuck all and you can just go about your business assuming you're asymptomatic. If we didn't test for this then the vast majority wouldn't even know they'd got it. We will get to that point eventually it's just taking a lot longer than I ever imagined. Too many people thinking Covid now is still what it was in May 2020. It's not. Akin to a common cold now for almost everyone who gets it, particularly with vaccination. Shows this nonsense up for what it is, morally superior people thinking they can cast judgment on anyone and everyone, yet another negative consequence of these supposedly helpful restrictions. Exactly this. Covid isn’t an illness anymore it’s a lifestyle.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 12, 2022 10:39:17 GMT
Looks like Djokovic and his advisers have a lot in common with Boris and his🤔 Didn't realise he was the Serbian Prime Minister who makes the rules. Won't be long until being positive means fuck all and you can just go about your business assuming you're asymptomatic. If we didn't test for this then the vast majority wouldn't even know they'd got it. We will get to that point eventually it's just taking a lot longer than I ever imagined. Too many people thinking Covid now is still what it was in May 2020. It's not. Akin to a common cold now for almost everyone who gets it, particularly with vaccination. Shows this nonsense up for what it is, morally superior people thinking they can cast judgment on anyone and everyone, yet another negative consequence of these supposedly helpful restrictions. But at this moment in time it isn’t like that🤔His team forgot to tick a box🤣🤣Of course they did🤔just like the press conference ending the other day🤣
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Post by noustie on Jan 12, 2022 13:04:50 GMT
I really don't understand how this can be viewed with any sort of partisanship particularly around a vaccine for a trained athlete against a disease that goes for the old and fat - Novak has obviously been a knob and if he is that strongly against vaccination then take that stand without trying to find some sort of fudge to participate though with the same applicable to their government. However, in this he is simply the personification of an absolutely fucking atrocious Australian immigration system that warrants far greater attention than the movements and whereabouts of a tennis player: www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/10/heartbreaking-refugees-left-behind-while-novak-djokovics-supporters-celebrate-court-winBollocks to the tennis - what's the crack with the thirty folk stuck in this hotel for nearly a decade, currently indefinitely, is surely the more burning question and where media attention should lie.
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Post by OldStokie on Jan 12, 2022 20:08:50 GMT
I really don't understand how this can be viewed with any sort of partisanship particularly around a vaccine for a trained athlete against a disease that goes for the old and fat - Novak has obviously been a knob and if he is that strongly against vaccination then take that stand without trying to find some sort of fudge to participate though with the same applicable to their government. However, in this he is simply the personification of an absolutely fucking atrocious Australian immigration system that warrants far greater attention than the movements and whereabouts of a tennis player: www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/10/heartbreaking-refugees-left-behind-while-novak-djokovics-supporters-celebrate-court-winBollocks to the tennis - what's the crack with the thirty folk stuck in this hotel for nearly a decade, currently indefinitely, is surely the more burning question and where media attention should lie. Great point about those 'jailed' in that apartment. If Novax (inadvertently) achieves bringing this atrocity in focus to everyone then I don't give a monkey's toss if he breaks all the rules. One person has been in there for NINE years! OS.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 12, 2022 20:25:56 GMT
I really don't understand how this can be viewed with any sort of partisanship particularly around a vaccine for a trained athlete against a disease that goes for the old and fat - Novak has obviously been a knob and if he is that strongly against vaccination then take that stand without trying to find some sort of fudge to participate though with the same applicable to their government. However, in this he is simply the personification of an absolutely fucking atrocious Australian immigration system that warrants far greater attention than the movements and whereabouts of a tennis player: www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/10/heartbreaking-refugees-left-behind-while-novak-djokovics-supporters-celebrate-court-winBollocks to the tennis - what's the crack with the thirty folk stuck in this hotel for nearly a decade, currently indefinitely, is surely the more burning question and where media attention should lie. Great point about those 'jailed' in that apartment. If Novax (inadvertently) achieves bringing this atrocity in focus to everyone then I don't give a monkey's toss if he breaks all the rules. One person has been in there for NINE years! OS. Surely you're not talking about the immigration system championed as the gold standard by Brexiteers?
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Post by hcstokie on Jan 14, 2022 7:04:06 GMT
Visa cancelled!
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Post by felonious on Jan 14, 2022 7:11:39 GMT
"The act allows him to deport anyone he deems a potential risk to "the health, safety or good order of the Australian community", however Djokovic can still appeal this."
Surely he's absolutely no risk to the Australian community. Certainly no more than the average vaccinated Australian Covid spreader as we've seen from our own 90% vaccinated population.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jan 14, 2022 7:17:53 GMT
"The act allows him to deport anyone he deems a potential risk to "the health, safety or good order of the Australian community", however Djokovic can still appeal this." Surely he's absolutely no risk to the Australian community. Certainly no more than the average vaccinated Australian Covid spreader as we've seen from our own 90% vaccinated population. That's not the point. By allowing him to stay, it encourages others to follow in his footsteps and attempt to enter the country by deception.
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Post by felonious on Jan 14, 2022 7:22:11 GMT
"The act allows him to deport anyone he deems a potential risk to "the health, safety or good order of the Australian community", however Djokovic can still appeal this." Surely he's absolutely no risk to the Australian community. Certainly no more than the average vaccinated Australian Covid spreader as we've seen from our own 90% vaccinated population. That's not the point. By allowing him to stay, it encourages others to follow in his footsteps and attempt to enter the country by deception. He's got absolutely no intention of staying in Australia beyond this tournament he's not that stupid. The Australian government have lost the plot, just before they lose the forthcoming election
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jan 14, 2022 7:25:04 GMT
That's not the point. By allowing him to stay, it encourages others to follow in his footsteps and attempt to enter the country by deception. He's got absolutely no intention of staying in Australia beyond this tournament he's not that stupid. The Australian government have lost the plot, just before they lose the forthcoming election I agree that the government has lost the plot, but allowing someone to get away with deception on the grounds of he's hear now, so let's forget about it, goes against the rule of law.
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Post by felonious on Jan 14, 2022 7:40:16 GMT
He's got absolutely no intention of staying in Australia beyond this tournament he's not that stupid. The Australian government have lost the plot, just before they lose the forthcoming election I agree that the government has lost the plot, but allowing someone to get away with deception on the grounds of he's hear now, so let's forget about it, goes against the rule of law. Well if the UK is anything to go by on breaking Covid rules it's rammed with criminals and I'm sure Australia is no different
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 14, 2022 7:58:21 GMT
I agree that the government has lost the plot, but allowing someone to get away with deception on the grounds of he's hear now, so let's forget about it, goes against the rule of law. Well if the UK is anything to go by on breaking Covid rules it's rammed with criminals and I'm sure Australia is no different Yes but sadly they happen to be UK national's !
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Post by andystokey on Jan 14, 2022 8:00:13 GMT
I agree that the government has lost the plot, but allowing someone to get away with deception on the grounds of he's hear now, so let's forget about it, goes against the rule of law. Well if the UK is anything to go by on breaking Covid rules it's rammed with criminals and I'm sure Australia is no different I think we sent most of them there.
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Post by superjw on Jan 14, 2022 8:01:22 GMT
"The act allows him to deport anyone he deems a potential risk to "the health, safety or good order of the Australian community", however Djokovic can still appeal this." Surely he's absolutely no risk to the Australian community. Certainly no more than the average vaccinated Australian Covid spreader as we've seen from our own 90% vaccinated population. That's not the point. By allowing him to stay, it encourages others to follow in his footsteps and attempt to enter the country by deception. It does appear he has given false information on his visa which gets anyone kicked out. But I don't see why they haven't referenced that as the basis of their decision legally and continued to focus on health reasons. The Australian government wanted to paint this as public health for their population when in reality it isn't.
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Post by felonious on Jan 14, 2022 8:02:02 GMT
Well if the UK is anything to go by on breaking Covid rules it's rammed with criminals and I'm sure Australia is no different I think we sent most of them there. A few from here as well
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 14, 2022 9:14:46 GMT
Be interesting to see what the courts make of this.
It’s certainly a politically motivated decision and not a medical one.
But the court doesn’t care about that, for them it’s simply about legality. (Which is why separation of powers is so important… are you paying attention Ms Selfie Queen?).
Regardless, the Aussie Government is making an arse of itself.
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 14, 2022 9:40:21 GMT
Good on Oz. I think he shot himself in the foot with the tick box completed by his agent(only the naive believe that) and his public engagements around his positive test times. I don't give a toss about political motivations, but generally the Aussie attitude is straight up and they call a spade a spade with no pandering. Fair play and they won't care what the world thinks.
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Post by franklin on Jan 14, 2022 9:45:30 GMT
"The act allows him to deport anyone he deems a potential risk to "the health, safety or good order of the Australian community", however Djokovic can still appeal this." Surely he's absolutely no risk to the Australian community. Certainly no more than the average vaccinated Australian Covid spreader as we've seen from our own 90% vaccinated population. That's not the point. By allowing him to stay, it encourages others to follow in his footsteps and attempt to enter the country by deception. But they've not cancelled it for deception they've cancelled for Health & Safety and whatever Good Order is. If they had proof he lied then cancel it on those grounds. A Court ruled he should be allowed in the Government decided to throw him out because they can and for some show of strength in the public eye.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 14, 2022 10:11:00 GMT
A public health risk, really?
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Post by serpico on Jan 14, 2022 10:27:28 GMT
Pretty sure I'm right in saying the Djokovic is probably having regular tests ? yet a vaccinated person can waltz into the stadium whilst potentially carry covid no problem at all so long as they show a vaccine pass! Its illogical, if he was refusing tests then i'd understand, but if he's not carrying the virus what is the problem ?? just more evidence that the state is acting petulantly because someone dares disobey them, this is purely punitive, it has nothing to do with the virus!
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