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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 5, 2022 22:05:42 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Jan 5, 2022 22:11:08 GMT
Didn't they invite him and then deport him? Don't tell the Aussie PM though he's busy jumping on a bandwagon.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 5, 2022 22:12:45 GMT
Didn't they invite him and then deport him? Don't tell the Aussie PM though he's busy jumping on a bandwagon. The Australian tennis federation did yes but Morrison said if he didn’t meet the criteria he be treated the same as anyone else and rightly so
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Post by andystokey on Jan 5, 2022 22:17:20 GMT
Didn't they invite him and then deport him? Don't tell the Aussie PM though he's busy jumping on a bandwagon. The Australian tennis federation did yes but Morrison said if he didn’t meet the criteria he be treated the same as anyone else and rightly so But they did let him fly there and only then when Morrison realised the PR wasn't looking great changed his mind. Just yesterday the Aussie Govt said they wouldn't intervene. Morrison is worse than Boris at judging the room, he's a total fraud.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 5, 2022 22:19:22 GMT
Sorry but can't agree. It's a deeply worrying development that goes against all logic, ethics and science. It's hard to believe this is just on a technicality. Never have supported discrimination and never will. Punishing people for what should be a basic human right should not be encouraged. If he's tested negative what is the problem?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 5, 2022 22:22:14 GMT
I could have sworn the rules of the tournament were that unvaccinated players couldn’t take part without medical exemption🤔It appears he doesn’t have one
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 5, 2022 22:23:22 GMT
Sorry but can't agree. It's a deeply worrying development that goes against all logic, ethics and science. It's hard to believe this is just on a technicality. Never have supported discrimination and never will. Punishing people for what should be a basic human right should not be encouraged. If he's tested negative what is the problem? This, it's bat shit crazy. Australia have become a joke of a country. I stand with Serbia and Novak on this. He shouldn't be treated like a second class citizen because he's considered that the benefit of himself taking the vaccine does not outweigh the risk (which for a high-level professional athlete, is probably right)
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Post by sticky on Jan 5, 2022 22:25:12 GMT
Should be treated like me and everyone else, Not everyone likes the rules but why should he be any different? The problem is if it snowballs then everyone will know whether anybody remotely famous is vaccinated or not.. one for the lawyers no doubt 💰
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 5, 2022 22:25:51 GMT
Sorry but can't agree. It's a deeply worrying development that goes against all logic, ethics and science. It's hard to believe this is just on a technicality. Never have supported discrimination and never will. Punishing people for what should be a basic human right should not be encouraged. If he's tested negative what is the problem? This, it's bat shit crazy. Australia have become a joke of a country. I stand with Serbia and Novak on this. He shouldn't be treated like a second class citizen because he's considered that the benefit of himself taking the vaccine does not outweigh the risk (which for a high-level professional athlete, is probably right) Morrison is hell bent on out-Trumping Trump. It's all about his ego. Surprise, Surprise. Only 3 days ago Morrison was advocating natural immunity!!!
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Post by andystokey on Jan 5, 2022 22:29:00 GMT
I could have sworn the rules of the tournament were that unvaccinated players couldn’t take part without medical exemption🤔It appears he doesn’t have one It's not the tournament rules is it though? The federal govt are deporting him at the border where he was held for 5 hrs. The tournament have backtracked after pressure from Morrison. The newspaper quotes from yesterday have become crimethink.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 5, 2022 22:31:02 GMT
Should be treated like me and everyone else, Not everyone likes the rules but why should he be any different? The problem is if it snowballs then everyone will know whether anybody remotely famous is vaccinated or not.. one for the lawyers no doubt 💰 They shouldn't have granted him the exemption then. It just smacks of opportunism. But sadly, just adds more fuel to the deeply damaging divisiveness we are experiencing.
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Post by sticky on Jan 5, 2022 22:32:49 GMT
Should be treated like me and everyone else, Not everyone likes the rules but why should he be any different? The problem is if it snowballs then everyone will know whether anybody remotely famous is vaccinated or not.. one for the lawyers no doubt 💰 They shouldn't have granted him the exemption then. It just smacks of opportunism. But sadly, just adds more fuel to the deeply damaging divisiveness we are experiencing. couldn’t agree more
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 5, 2022 22:35:19 GMT
I could have sworn the rules of the tournament were that unvaccinated players couldn’t take part without medical exemption🤔It appears he doesn’t have one It's not the tournament rules is it though? The federal govt are deporting him at the border where he was held for 5 hrs. The tournament have backtracked after pressure from Morrison. The newspaper quotes from yesterday have become crimethink. I would imagine the backlash from the Aussie public might have had something to do with the sudden change of heart
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Post by andystokey on Jan 5, 2022 22:41:50 GMT
It's not the tournament rules is it though? The federal govt are deporting him at the border where he was held for 5 hrs. The tournament have backtracked after pressure from Morrison. The newspaper quotes from yesterday have become crimethink. I would imagine the backlash from the Aussie public might have had something to do with the sudden change of heart Yeah, they've had the full force of the law put on them in a way you couldn't have imagined 2 years ago. Morrison's approach with the crazy state government have irreparably damaged the international standing of Australia. I suspect there are plenty who don't want to travel there again. Thankfully we don't have such insanity on our border.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 5, 2022 22:49:32 GMT
Should change his name by deed poll to Novax…
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 5, 2022 22:52:49 GMT
The notion the best tennis player in the world has an acute medical condition was always questionable.
This decision is politically motivated. There's reasons to believe Morrison has given instructions. Otherwise there'd have been no question of him being allowed in at all. The correct outcome but the entire shitshow is borne of a lack of leadership. The PM's fear of the public has led to tbis latest fiasco.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 5, 2022 22:53:51 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 5, 2022 22:58:50 GMT
Djokovic is challenging the decision in court. He won't be challenging Nadal in court
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 5, 2022 22:59:45 GMT
The most worrying thing about all of this for me is just how popular it is with people. It's actually one of the most disturbing things of the whole pandemic.
As incredible a scientific breakthrough as the vaccine has been (and it is absolutely groundbreaking), it is not some sort of miracle cure.
The governments have almost had to paint it as that in order to achieve optimal uptake, but it clearly doesn't impact upon community transmission, hence why there's so many cases over here at the moment (regardless of whether you're vaccinated or not). So the benefit to taking it is purely an individual one.
Unvaccinated people should be able to go about their lives as they please. It's none of anyone's business why or what their reason is for not taking it, and they shouldn't have to prove or disprove anything (in this case, very publicly too).
You do have to wonder where some people would actually draw the line.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 5, 2022 23:11:42 GMT
The most worrying thing about all of this for me is just how popular it is with people. It's actually one of the most disturbing things of the whole pandemic. As incredible a scientific breakthrough as the vaccine has been (and it is absolutely groundbreaking), it is not some sort of miracle cure. The governments have almost had to paint it as that in order to achieve optimal uptake, but it clearly doesn't impact upon community transmission, hence why there's so many cases over here at the moment (regardless of whether you're vaccinated or not). So the benefit to taking it is purely an individual one. Unvaccinated people should be able to go about their lives as they please. It's none of anyone's business why or what their reason is for not taking it, and they shouldn't have to prove or disprove anything (in this case, very publicly too). You do have to wonder where some people would actually draw the line. This 100%. I can't quite believe people are cheering this discrimination on. It's sickening. And people wonder how Nazi Germany gained such popularity. Create fear, get the media on side, create an enemy, destroy the enemy. Its fucking disgusting.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jan 5, 2022 23:14:22 GMT
Always used to think how could North Koreans live as they do etc but these past two years have shown how easily it can happen..
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 5, 2022 23:24:57 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 5, 2022 23:33:02 GMT
Didn’t realise he was Serbian. Thought Jock O'Vitch was Scottish.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 5, 2022 23:37:39 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Jan 6, 2022 4:28:24 GMT
I can understand of the Aussies frustration over the double double standards however it’s another farce in a long line farce from Australia and the rest of the world over compulsory vaccinations by actions of losing freedoms if you do not
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Post by felonious on Jan 6, 2022 7:21:20 GMT
Sorry but can't agree. It's a deeply worrying development that goes against all logic, ethics and science. It's hard to believe this is just on a technicality. Never have supported discrimination and never will. Punishing people for what should be a basic human right should not be encouraged. If he's tested negative what is the problem? This, it's bat shit crazy. Australia have become a joke of a country. I stand with Serbia and Novak on this. He shouldn't be treated like a second class citizen because he's considered that the benefit of himself taking the vaccine does not outweigh the risk (which for a high-level professional athlete, is probably right) Because of his age and fitness levels he has no reason to fear Covid and can take steps to avoid getting it. The vaccines are a risk to him because if he loses just 4 or 5% efficiency that's the difference between winning and losing. At his age with new competition coming along you can't blame him for what should be a personal decision. He's absolutely no risk to the Australian public I'm sure he'll be doing everything to avoid them during a tournament and as we know the vaccine doesn't appear to be doing a jot to stop transmission of Omicron. It's politics, pure and simple.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jan 6, 2022 7:38:57 GMT
This, it's bat shit crazy. Australia have become a joke of a country. I stand with Serbia and Novak on this. He shouldn't be treated like a second class citizen because he's considered that the benefit of himself taking the vaccine does not outweigh the risk (which for a high-level professional athlete, is probably right) Because of his age and fitness levels he has no reason to fear Covid and can take steps to avoid getting it. The vaccines are a risk to him because if he loses just 4 or 5% efficiency that's the difference between winning and losing. At his age with new competition coming along you can't blame him for what should be a personal decision. He's absolutely no risk to the Australian public I'm sure he'll be doing everything to avoid them during a tournament and as we know the vaccine doesn't appear to be doing a jot to stop transmission of Omicron. It's politics, pure and simple. Seeing that the other players have have taken the risk of being vaccinated, Novak is taking advantage of their % performance doping reduction. No wonder he does not want the jab.
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Post by henry on Jan 6, 2022 8:16:13 GMT
Because of his age and fitness levels he has no reason to fear Covid and can take steps to avoid getting it. The vaccines are a risk to him because if he loses just 4 or 5% efficiency that's the difference between winning and losing. At his age with new competition coming along you can't blame him for what should be a personal decision. He's absolutely no risk to the Australian public I'm sure he'll be doing everything to avoid them during a tournament and as we know the vaccine doesn't appear to be doing a jot to stop transmission of Omicron. It's politics, pure and simple. Seeing that the other players have have taken the risk of being vaccinated, Novak is taking advantage of their % performance doping reduction. No wonder he does not want the jab. That’ was their choice.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jan 6, 2022 8:23:15 GMT
Seeing that the other players have have taken the risk of being vaccinated, Novak is taking advantage of their % performance doping reduction. No wonder he does not want the jab. That’ was their choice. The "choice" argument falls flat on it's arse when it's proven that vaccination dramatically cuts hospital admission. I view people that make the "choice" argument to be to blame for the cancellation of my child's eye examination at hospital this week.
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Post by henry on Jan 6, 2022 8:29:50 GMT
The "choice" argument falls flat on it's arse when it's proven that vaccination dramatically cuts hospital admission. I view people that make the "choice" argument to be to blame for the cancellation of my child's eye examination at hospital this week. Why don’t you blame druggies and people with dogshit life styles also taking up beds?
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