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Post by hcstokie on Feb 6, 2023 19:27:59 GMT
Holy crap. Sounds like Russia's big attack on Vulhedar today didn't work out... Reliable source. I think this is just a feint to try to pull Ukrainians from the north. Looks like Russia will launch its proper offensive there in the coming 10 days. The rains should be coming soon so I think Russia are trying a push before then. Ukraine will probably counter later in the year, possibly April-May time. Ukraine will just try to replicate Bakhmut and exhaust the Russian attacks with huge casualties before they launch their own offensive.
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Post by questionable on Feb 6, 2023 19:35:30 GMT
Holy crap. Sounds like Russia's big attack on Vulhedar today didn't work out... Reliable source. Yep loads of very reliable sources I follow are putting up insane videos of whole tanks battalions getting annihilated, one showing 30 plus armoured vehicles of varying types blown to shit or imobilised, droves of infantry getting obliterated by artillery. Leopards are now arriving in Poland en mass, hopefully Ukraine can make serious games. Bradley’s will play a massive part in supporting the main battle tanks, I can see a massive fast paced counter attack Ukraine and seriously can’t see Russia being able to do anything about it.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 6, 2023 21:53:27 GMT
I'm pretty sure cluster munitions have already been used in this war. I think it's been used by both sides. OS. Ukraine has been asking for them. It's their territory and a self defence against genocide so there's need and justification. The US has loads it is gonna get rid of anyway so it seems like it'd be cheap and effective too. EDIT: just saying I don't see why they shouldn't go. I have no idea what all the considerations are or should be... Because neither Russia or UKR have signed up to the cluster ban then you fight fire with fire. It would be foolish to do otherwise. OS.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 6, 2023 22:26:12 GMT
Holy crap. Sounds like Russia's big attack on Vulhedar today didn't work out... Reliable source. I think this is just a feint to try to pull Ukrainians from the north. Looks like Russia will launch its proper offensive there in the coming 10 days. The rains should be coming soon so I think Russia are trying a push before then. Ukraine will probably counter later in the year, possibly April-May time. Ukraine will just try to replicate Bakhmut and exhaust the Russian attacks with huge casualties before they launch their own offensive. The Russians are supposedly shutting down mobile internet in Luhansk so that Ukrainians will find it harder to share photos etc. Hard to see Russia getting complete strategic surprise like Ukraine achieved last year in Kharkiv, but they're clearly trying to hide and confuse things all over the front.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 6, 2023 22:57:59 GMT
Holy crap. Sounds like Russia's big attack on Vulhedar today didn't work out... Reliable source. I think this is just a feint to try to pull Ukrainians from the north. Looks like Russia will launch its proper offensive there in the coming 10 days. The rains should be coming soon so I think Russia are trying a push before then. Ukraine will probably counter later in the year, possibly April-May time. Ukraine will just try to replicate Bakhmut and exhaust the Russian attacks with huge casualties before they launch their own offensive. Unfortunately I think the Russians have learned from past experiences, they seem to be now operating in smaller formations with drone support and once they take ground they dig in till reinforced. A window of opportunity was lost to try and rout them and I think any future gains by Ukraine will be much much tougher.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 7, 2023 6:10:54 GMT
The key, surely, is Crimea If Ukraine re takes it in the summer that might be curtains for Putin The capture of Crimea in 2014 was entirely facilitated by the Ukrainian Army/Navy either enabling or deserting to join Russian Military or pretending to defend Crimea for fear of Court Marshall It was further facilitated by the pro Russian Ukraine President Yanukovych getting out of Dodge a few days after the Invasion Recapturing Crimea will be a whole different ball game It was a wake-up call to NATO to urgently investigate if the NATO member Baltic States of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia Military had been similarly infiltrated by Russian sympathisers But not a sufficient wake-up call for NATO to properly arm Ukraine to repel a land invasion from Russia despite the ongoing conflicts in Eastern Ukraine Maybe this fact emboldened Putin to think he would get a similarly warm reception if he invaded Kyiv and why NATO is now scrambling to actually arm Ukraine to repel the invasion if somewhat haphazardly
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 7, 2023 6:14:06 GMT
The key, surely, is Crimea If Ukraine re takes it in the summer that might be curtains for Putin The capture of Crimea in 2014 was entirely facilitated by the Ukrainian Army/Navy either enabling or deserting to join Russian Military or pretending to defend Crimea for fear of Court Marshall It was further facilitated by the pro Russian Ukraine President Yanukovych getting out of Dodge a few days after the Invasion Recapturing Crimea will be a whole different ball game It was a wake-up call to NATO to urgently investigate if the NATO member Baltic States of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia Military had been similarly infiltrated by Russian sympathisers But not a sufficient wake-up call for NATO to properly arm Ukraine to repel a land invasion from Russia despite the ongoing conflicts in Eastern Ukraine Maybe this fact emboldened Putin to think he would get a similarly warm reception if he invaded Kyiv and why NATO is now scrambling to actually arm Ukraine to repel the invasion if somewhat haphazardly I understand why some leaders wanted to try and make peace with Putin and avoid escalation. Peace is ideal... But it was a horrible horrible mistake and lots of innocent Ukrainians are now paying for it Hopefully enough people have learned from those mistakes and we see hundreds and hundreds more tanks and artillery going.
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Post by hcstokie on Feb 7, 2023 7:13:26 GMT
I think this is just a feint to try to pull Ukrainians from the north. Looks like Russia will launch its proper offensive there in the coming 10 days. The rains should be coming soon so I think Russia are trying a push before then. Ukraine will probably counter later in the year, possibly April-May time. Ukraine will just try to replicate Bakhmut and exhaust the Russian attacks with huge casualties before they launch their own offensive. Unfortunately I think the Russians have learned from past experiences, they seem to be now operating in smaller formations with drone support and once they take ground they dig in till reinforced. A window of opportunity was lost to try and rout them and I think any future gains by Ukraine will be much much tougher. I agree to an extent but I still think concentrated armour will easily punch a hole through any hastily prepared defences they may have made. Ukraine use western military doctrine whereby once a breakthrough is made the officers are enabled to make their own decisions on the ground. This means that they keep on pushing and is why they retook huge swathes of land so quickly last year. I can see that being the same this time around too. The Russians use positional warfare doctrine and all orders are relayed from the top. This is why they move at a snails pace. I think Russian gains currently are a little overstated. They will probably take Bakhmut in the coming weeks but in the grand scheme of things it means little. They’ve exhausted themselves on it and lost thousands of troops and huge volumes of equipment to take a town three times the size of Burslem.
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Post by questionable on Feb 7, 2023 8:34:14 GMT
I can guarantee that the USA are providing real time battlefield information and will have say when and where a counterattack will be.
Rumour has it that F16, Mig and even eurofighters are firmly on the way soon.
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Post by Northy on Feb 7, 2023 8:36:42 GMT
Holy crap. Sounds like Russia's big attack on Vulhedar today didn't work out... Reliable source. Yep loads of very reliable sources I follow are putting up insane videos of whole tanks battalions getting annihilated, one showing 30 plus armoured vehicles of varying types blown to shit or imobilised, droves of infantry getting obliterated by artillery. Leopards are now arriving in Poland en mass, hopefully Ukraine can make serious games. Bradley’s will play a massive part in supporting the main battle tanks, I can see a massive fast paced counter attack Ukraine and seriously can’t see Russia being able to do anything about it. which sources are they, the couple I see haven't got anything up yet ?
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Post by questionable on Feb 7, 2023 8:49:57 GMT
I can’t copy the twitters links for some reason but there’s videos of countless Bradley’s weeks ago arriving in Holland, then being transferred through Poland.
Canada’s Leopards arrived in Poland yesterday via plane from the links I’ve seen and training for them due to start very soon, links from last week show Ukraine personnel training in the challenger presumably at Salisbury Plains where our troops train.
There’s also strong rumours that Germany will be supplying an additional 188 older versions of the Leopard they have in storage.
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Post by musik on Feb 7, 2023 11:24:01 GMT
I'm most surprised Russia don't try to prevent the tanks, ammunition and weapons from arriving.
Or do they?
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Post by questionable on Feb 7, 2023 12:23:07 GMT
I'm most surprised Russia don't try to prevent the tanks, ammunition and weapons from arriving. Or do they? At the start of their “special operation” there was regular attacks on Ukrainian training camps bordering Poland and no doubt supplies, with the air defences now in place and alleged shortages of long range Russian missiles I can’t see how they can influence the arrival of weaponry, also the amount of equipment would be impossible to stop.
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Post by musik on Feb 7, 2023 13:18:23 GMT
I'm most surprised Russia don't try to prevent the tanks, ammunition and weapons from arriving. Or do they? At the start of their “special operation” there was regular attacks on Ukrainian training camps bordering Poland and no doubt supplies, with the air defences now in place and alleged shortages of long range Russian missiles I can’t see how they can influence the arrival of weaponry, also the amount of equipment would be impossible to stop. Unless they use a small nuclear weapon.
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Post by questionable on Feb 7, 2023 13:26:40 GMT
At the start of their “special operation” there was regular attacks on Ukrainian training camps bordering Poland and no doubt supplies, with the air defences now in place and alleged shortages of long range Russian missiles I can’t see how they can influence the arrival of weaponry, also the amount of equipment would be impossible to stop. Unless they use a small nuclear weapon. Biden's already made it quite clear that use of such a weapon will result in catastrophic reprisals for Russia, there was mention that the USA will sink the Black Sea Fleet. Russia has only seen a small part of what the USA has to offer.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 7, 2023 15:34:37 GMT
I'm most surprised Russia don't try to prevent the tanks, ammunition and weapons from arriving. Or do they? I'm 99% sure they want to but can't. Putin's too scared to touch NATO and NATO/China say no to nukes. Putin always tries to scare people into abandoning Ukrainians so he can genocide them. It's his main weapon and when we send HIMARS or tanks he shuts up and starts making threats about planes instead.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 7, 2023 15:41:01 GMT
Good! Apparently the Leopard 1s aren't very good but they can match or beat the stuff Russia is pulling out of storage.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 7, 2023 16:26:53 GMT
Yep loads of very reliable sources I follow are putting up insane videos of whole tanks battalions getting annihilated, one showing 30 plus armoured vehicles of varying types blown to shit or imobilised, droves of infantry getting obliterated by artillery. Leopards are now arriving in Poland en mass, hopefully Ukraine can make serious games. Bradley’s will play a massive part in supporting the main battle tanks, I can see a massive fast paced counter attack Ukraine and seriously can’t see Russia being able to do anything about it. which sources are they, the couple I see haven't got anything up yet ? One pic. The source is fighting in Vulhedar, but that's not 30 vehicles and can't tell how many are damaged. There are other videos that look kinda similar but that's claimed tens of miles away near Avdiivka. There's a video of someone set on fire running away from tanks before one explodes. Have you seen that? Looks like the same area as above but with extra damaged vehicles.
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Post by questionable on Feb 7, 2023 16:35:16 GMT
BREAKING: The «first» Leopard 2 has arrived in Kyiv 🐆 There will be more of them.✊ Thank you to @bundeskanzler my colleague Boris Pistorius and the German people. The tank coalition is marching... to victory!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2023 0:53:01 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2023 1:01:51 GMT
43 million dollars worth of fighter jet
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 8, 2023 5:59:50 GMT
Things aren't going well enough here - it's so, so brutal for the heroes on the front line atm and that's mainly because of Russian artillery. Russiabstarted with ~2k active guns and losing 333 ain't enough.
Send more radars, NATO guns and guided ammo! Then Ukraine can get even.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 8, 2023 9:17:24 GMT
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Post by Northy on Feb 8, 2023 9:22:12 GMT
which sources are they, the couple I see haven't got anything up yet ? One pic. The source is fighting in Vulhedar, but that's not 30 vehicles and can't tell how many are damaged. There are other videos that look kinda similar but that's claimed tens of miles away near Avdiivka. There's a video of someone set on fire running away from tanks before one explodes. Have you seen that? Looks like the same area as above but with extra damaged vehicles. No I haven't seen that, I had one come up on my feed of some injured guys drowning in a water ditch, poor sods, I didn't watch all of it
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Post by Northy on Feb 8, 2023 9:24:09 GMT
Things aren't going well enough here - it's so, so brutal for the heroes on the front line atm and that's mainly because of Russian artillery. Russiabstarted with ~2k active guns and losing 333 ain't enough. Send more radars, NATO guns and guided ammo! Then Ukraine can get even. 104 captured is a good start, hopefully they have the ammo and turned them onto the Russians
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 8, 2023 9:57:47 GMT
Them videos which allegedly show Ukraine using chemical weapons against the Russian's aren't very nice viewing.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 8, 2023 15:19:26 GMT
Things aren't going well enough here - it's so, so brutal for the heroes on the front line atm and that's mainly because of Russian artillery. Russiabstarted with ~2k active guns and losing 333 ain't enough. Send more radars, NATO guns and guided ammo! Then Ukraine can get even. 104 captured is a good start, hopefully they have the ammo and turned them onto the Russians I saw some interview with a mechanic who said they can hardly use any of the ~50 MSTA-S they captured. That's Russia's best gun and Ukraine doesn't have all the parts. Shows how important logistics really are.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 8, 2023 15:32:10 GMT
This voiceover guy is now famous in Ukraine. Here's a counterattack in Bakhmut, whose outskirts have been flattened by Russia.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 8, 2023 15:36:39 GMT
Thread with evidence Wagner is now struggling to recruit prisoners. Those that are left are onto Prigozhins lies. He's like a typical con man who made big promises.
The Russian prison statistics say the same: number of prisoners dropped by 30k when Wagner was in full flow but now they're steady.
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Post by musik on Feb 8, 2023 15:47:24 GMT
Them videos which allegedly show Ukraine using chemical weapons against the Russian's aren't very nice viewing. Are they? As far as I understood it, if Russia were the ones who used any chemical or biological weapons, then US and some european countries would get involved for real, sending troops etc.
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