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Post by steve66 on Jan 31, 2023 21:28:55 GMT
She’s very assertive but very doable
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 1, 2023 0:40:42 GMT
She’s very assertive but very doable You and I have very different ideas about that! Give me videos of Sanna Marin explaining how Ukraine can win any day.
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Post by Northy on Feb 1, 2023 8:18:02 GMT
It looks like she's wearing a Xmas tablecloth made into a dress
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 1, 2023 19:34:53 GMT
Interesting Ukrainian thoughts on Zelenskyy now Vs when he ran for office. Gotta click through for the thread.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 1, 2023 21:24:30 GMT
Ukraine war: Russia planning 24 February offensive, Ukrainian defence minister says www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64492938500,000 troops ready certainly sounds a lot. Certainly seems like the rhetoric the last few days has been around Russia making gains or conducting big offensives. Ukraine will do well to continue to withhold.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 1, 2023 22:05:57 GMT
Ukraine war: Russia planning 24 February offensive, Ukrainian defence minister says www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64492938500,000 troops ready certainly sounds a lot. Certainly seems like the rhetoric the last few days has been around Russia making gains or conducting big offensives. Ukraine will do well to continue to withhold. I read a Ukrainian's account of last Feb 24th. They were told that Russia's huge army was rolling through the country, that missiles had destroyed the Ukrainian army and that Sumy and Chernihiv were under Putin's boot. Despair is one of Russia's weapons... This is gonna suck for a few months at least but I think Ukraine is stronger than last year. You'd expect Russia to gain some ground soon though.
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Post by lordb on Feb 1, 2023 22:38:25 GMT
Ukraine war: Russia planning 24 February offensive, Ukrainian defence minister says www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64492938500,000 troops ready certainly sounds a lot. Certainly seems like the rhetoric the last few days has been around Russia making gains or conducting big offensives. Ukraine will do well to continue to withhold. I read a Ukrainian's account of last Feb 24th. They were told that Russia's huge army was rolling through the country, that missiles had destroyed the Ukrainian army and that Sumy and Chernihiv were under Putin's boot. Despair is one of Russia's weapons... This is gonna suck for a few months at least but I think Ukraine is stronger than last year. You'd expect Russia to gain some ground soon though. And then be pushed back again in the summer
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Post by wannabee on Feb 2, 2023 0:06:57 GMT
Interesting Ukrainian thoughts on Zelenskyy now Vs when he ran for office. Gotta click through for the thread. I think it's highly likely that Zelensky had a "Road to Damascus moment" on 24th February 2022 and Ukrainians and the West generally should be very grateful that he had Today's Raids on the operations of Igor Kolomoisky, Ukraine's biggest Oligarch and main sponsor of Zelensky in his 2019 Presidential Campaign is further proof of that. There's no doubt that it has been made perfectly clear to Zelensky by Biden, EU (a contingency of joining) and presumably UK that he needs to clean up the corruption if he wants to receive further Military and other Aid It is interesting how two news outlets had two contrasting commentaries on today's Raids Bloomberg reflecting American thinking www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-01/ukrainian-authorities-raid-tycoon-s-home-in-crackdown-on-graft?leadSource=uverify%20wallAnd the once respected BBC now sadly tainted as just an organ of Government Speak not intended to inform www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64482072.amp
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Post by musik on Feb 2, 2023 1:27:46 GMT
I don't know russian.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 2, 2023 2:21:18 GMT
Have you tried Rosseta Stone?
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 2, 2023 16:36:15 GMT
Thread on Wagner tactics and brutality. If this is true then Wagner might have enough bodies to take Bakhmut but not much more than that.
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Post by musik on Feb 2, 2023 16:46:34 GMT
Have you tried Rosseta Stone? Maybe it's worth it. Or rather go to another library here 2 km away. They keep old tapes with language lessons. Analogue. Yummie!
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Post by lordb on Feb 3, 2023 22:21:11 GMT
The key, surely, is Crimea If Ukraine re takes it in the summer that might be curtains for Putin
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 4, 2023 19:10:27 GMT
Some Russians were just hanging out preparing to try and murder a bunch of innocents and then BOOM, precision hit.
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Post by musik on Feb 5, 2023 14:39:29 GMT
All quiet?
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 5, 2023 16:32:09 GMT
"Funny" words you picked, Ukrainian news just published "All is not quiet on the Eastern front. Really brutal right now  Russia is starting major, grinding attacks and it looks like it's going to be horrible for a few months. EDIT: Bakhmut is almost surrounded. Ukraine's soldiers are buying time, I hope it's enough time and the soldiers get out safely.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 5, 2023 16:39:44 GMT
The key, surely, is Crimea If Ukraine re takes it in the summer that might be curtains for Putin I honestly can't see a realistic path to Crimea in the summer for Ukraine. Ukraine needs to survive and chew through a huge wave of Russian meat with one arm tied behind its back because it needs to save up soldiers, tanks and artillery ammo for the later attack. Things can change really quickly though - from "maybe some stingers" in Jan to "let's go HIMARS" by July. I hope I'm surprised in a positive way. Right now if the year ends with Russia in Bakhmut but Ukraine reaching the southern coast and punching through Kreminna-Svatove to free the north half of Luhansk I'd take it. In that case Ukraine would start 2024 in a good position to win.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 5, 2023 16:59:18 GMT
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Post by questionable on Feb 5, 2023 19:09:56 GMT
From the more reliable Twitter feeds coming out of Ukraine now it seems the Russians have launched a massive assault and looking as though a tactical withdrawal is on the cards??
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 5, 2023 20:51:16 GMT
The death tolls on both sides are going to be off the scale by the time we get to the summer months. Very worrying…….
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 5, 2023 21:03:29 GMT
From the more reliable Twitter feeds coming out of Ukraine now it seems the Russians have launched a massive assault and looking as though a tactical withdrawal is on the cards?? In warfare, tactical withdrawals are legitimate tactics and often result in victory for those withdrawing under the command of experienced and wise generals. The perfect example of this is what happened in North Africa in WW2. Germany and Italy pushed back The Allies to El Alamein. Their undoing was not taking key points along the line of their advance, especially the deep sea port of Tobruk. So when Monty counter-attacked, the Germans and Italians had advanced so far from their main supply port of Tunis that their supply line was very weak. But one thing Monty had, was enough armour and personnel to counter-attack successfully. This is why it's imperative for NATO to get enough battle armour and weaponry to UKR ASAP to enable them to counter-attack. So, what's happening now in the battle has to be planned perfectly for it to be successful and what may now be perceived as Russia winning the battle is not straightforward. In reality, this is now WW3 being fought within the confines of Ukraine. There's a long way to go yet.  OS.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 5, 2023 21:53:09 GMT
Have seen some media reports claiming that China has considerably upped it support for Russia in the form of vast supplies of military parts etc.
This is a complete mess and isn’t going to end anytime soon.
The west should have supplied Ukraine with more/better weapons when they had the Russians on the retreat.
Russians making gains now and they’ll dig in and be hard to shift
What a mess
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Post by musik on Feb 6, 2023 0:01:32 GMT
Have seen some media reports claiming that China has considerably upped it support for Russia in the form of vast supplies of military parts etc. This is a complete mess and isn’t going to end anytime soon. The west should have supplied Ukraine with more/better weapons when they had the Russians on the retreat. Russians making gains now and they’ll dig in and be hard to shift What a mess Worrying to say the least! And as I said early on, why would China take part for EU and against Russia? And when Russia have conquered Ukraine with their further 500.000 robot sacrificed soldiers they will mobilize ten times more and with 5 million soldiers simply begin to walk up north.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 6, 2023 2:02:49 GMT
Have seen some media reports claiming that China has considerably upped it support for Russia in the form of vast supplies of military parts etc. This is a complete mess and isn’t going to end anytime soon. The west should have supplied Ukraine with more/better weapons when they had the Russians on the retreat. Russians making gains now and they’ll dig in and be hard to shift What a mess Worrying to say the least! And as I said early on, why would China take part for EU and against Russia? And when Russia have conquered Ukraine with their further 500.000 robot sacrificed soldiers they will mobilize ten times more and with 5 million soldiers simply begin to walk up north. I don't think anyone is expecting China to go all in against Russia, but to try to get rich. China relies far more on Westerns tech, finance and trade than on Russia's. And even with sanctions, China can buy cheap fuel, fertiliser etc from Russia, which I think the West is fine with. To deal with Russia sending so many soldiers it sounds like Ukraine now wants cluster munitions and maybe we should send them? The way to protect everyone is to help Ukraine win battles so that Russia agrees to be peaceful, or its army is obliterated. *Kinda funny that S Korea, Japan etc are counted in the "West" here, I think of them as East!
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Post by drfootball on Feb 6, 2023 13:15:29 GMT
Worrying to say the least! And as I said early on, why would China take part for EU and against Russia? And when Russia have conquered Ukraine with their further 500.000 robot sacrificed soldiers they will mobilize ten times more and with 5 million soldiers simply begin to walk up north. I don't think anyone is expecting China to go all in against Russia, but to try to get rich. China relies far more on Westerns tech, finance and trade than on Russia's. And even with sanctions, China can buy cheap fuel, fertiliser etc from Russia, which I think the West is fine with. To deal with Russia sending so many soldiers it sounds like Ukraine now wants cluster munitions and maybe we should send them? The way to protect everyone is to help Ukraine win battles so that Russia agrees to be peaceful, or its army is obliterated. *Kinda funny that S Korea, Japan etc are counted in the "West" here, I think of them as East! Cluster munitions were banned by international treaty in 2010, interestingly the US, Russia and Ukraine havn`t signed it.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 6, 2023 14:48:30 GMT
Have seen some media reports claiming that China has considerably upped it support for Russia in the form of vast supplies of military parts etc. This is a complete mess and isn’t going to end anytime soon. The west should have supplied Ukraine with more/better weapons when they had the Russians on the retreat. Russians making gains now and they’ll dig in and be hard to shift What a mess Worrying to say the least! And as I said early on, why would China take part for EU and against Russia? And when Russia have conquered Ukraine with their further 500.000 robot sacrificed soldiers they will mobilize ten times more and with 5 million soldiers simply begin to walk up north. Make no mistake about it, China will do what's best for China. The threat of a 25% tariff on them on all exports to the Nato/EU allies supporting UKR will definitely stop their one-sided support. OS.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 6, 2023 14:50:26 GMT
I don't think anyone is expecting China to go all in against Russia, but to try to get rich. China relies far more on Westerns tech, finance and trade than on Russia's. And even with sanctions, China can buy cheap fuel, fertiliser etc from Russia, which I think the West is fine with. To deal with Russia sending so many soldiers it sounds like Ukraine now wants cluster munitions and maybe we should send them? The way to protect everyone is to help Ukraine win battles so that Russia agrees to be peaceful, or its army is obliterated. *Kinda funny that S Korea, Japan etc are counted in the "West" here, I think of them as East! Cluster munitions were banned by international treaty in 2010, interestingly the US, Russia and Ukraine havn`t signed it. I'm pretty sure cluster munitions have already been used in this war. I think it's been used by both sides. OS.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 6, 2023 15:08:36 GMT
Cluster munitions were banned by international treaty in 2010, interestingly the US, Russia and Ukraine havn`t signed it. I'm pretty sure cluster munitions have already been used in this war. I think it's been used by both sides. OS. Ukraine has been asking for them. It's their territory and a self defence against genocide so there's need and justification. The US has loads it is gonna get rid of anyway so it seems like it'd be cheap and effective too. EDIT: just saying I don't see why they shouldn't go. I have no idea what all the considerations are or should be...
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 6, 2023 16:19:40 GMT
Russia's Jan budget deficit widens as energy revenues slump. Russia promised they'd spend ~16 % less this year than 2022, but also run a bigger army and fight for 12 full months? I think they're lying. Or maybe they're going to factory managers and saying "build us tanks for cheap or we'll shoot you".
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 6, 2023 18:18:30 GMT
Holy crap. Sounds like Russia's big attack on Vulhedar today didn't work out...
Reliable source.
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