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Post by musik on Oct 3, 2022 13:07:41 GMT
I’m still not having it’s anything but laughable. State of them It's nothing strange with that.
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Post by steve66 on Oct 3, 2022 13:18:41 GMT
Desperate stuff Ramzan Kadyrov, says he is sending three of his teenage sons -- aged 14, 15 and 16 -- to the Ukraine front. He'll be sending his goats next. On what side? He’s Russian/Chechen
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Post by scfcfred on Oct 3, 2022 14:15:18 GMT
Fake pro war demo in Red square
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Post by questionable on Oct 3, 2022 15:01:24 GMT
Fake pro war demo in Red square We could do this on match day, bored shitless so ramp up the tannoy to make it sound it’s interesting.
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Post by scfcfred on Oct 3, 2022 15:08:21 GMT
Fake pro war demo in Red square We could do this on match day, bored shitless so ramp up the tannoy to make it sound it’s interesting. Haha 🙂
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Post by Gods on Oct 3, 2022 16:11:54 GMT
George Orwell would love/hate this. In Russian media, now the four provinces occupied by Russian forces are portrayed as "liberating" areas "occupied' by the Ukranians.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 3, 2022 16:18:16 GMT
From John R Bruning News from Ukraine: The Ukrainian armed forces launched another offensive this weekend. This time, they attacked the north side of the Russian bridgehead across the Dnieper River near Kherson. The Russians on that part of the line broke and ran. A Russian reporter on Telegram has been begging for air support. Most recent reports suggest the front's collapse is so complete that the Ukrainian forward elements advanced 75 kilometers today. That puts them about 80 kms from Kherson now on that side of the line. There are somewhere between 20,000 and 50,000 Russians west of the Dnieper. This comes a day after Lyman fell to the Ukrainians, where some 5000 Russians were captured and another 1500 killed trying to escape as they were being surrounded. Unconfirmed report says 500 Russian conscripts flat out refused to fight today. Very exciting news on Kherson oblast. I'm pretty convinced Ukraine has made the ~30 km to Dudchany but maybe they started a bit closer. There are rumours they're fighting in Beryslav which would be ~70 km if it's the city but a lot less if it's the edge of the district (basically parish?). I've seen some horrible stuff out of Lyman and the experts are saying 1k+ losses for the Russians. Nothing like 5k captured from the videos or other reliable sources yet. 1k losses would be incredible in one place.
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Post by questionable on Oct 3, 2022 17:39:57 GMT
What I found of interest is that there’s 100% 25k+ Winter Specialist combat uniforms already en route to the Ukrainian troops, surely they need to push on during the winter months as no doubt the Russians will be grossly ill prepared and more to slaughter.
What Ukraine has done is miraculous and in years to come when things calm down 100% we’ll holiday there and meet face to face these heroes
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 3, 2022 17:47:13 GMT
Russia abandoned Borova the north east. I've followed the local Telegram channel there and it's wonderful to see the joy of the people who've just seen their towns freed.
There are some pro-Russians in the east of Ukraine but it's *nothing* like the support you see in video after video as the Ukrainian armed forces enter towns and locals come out to welcome them or wave the flag.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 3, 2022 17:58:38 GMT
John R Bruning, from this morning.
War news is always fluid and of dubious accuracy in the moment. Right now, the news from the Kherson Front, if true, is stunning. The Ukrainian advance along the west bank of the Dnieper has cut off and surrounded a huge force of Russians. There's an estimate that some 15,000 are trapped. That number seems very high to me.
OSINT sources have posted video of a Russian train supposedly heading for the Kherson Front carrying 17 Iskander medium range tactical missile systems. The Iskander can carry a nuclear payload, so there's a lot of speculation/concern about this right now.
The Russians are claiming they caught and destroyed some 89 "Zombie NATO Proxy Forces" tanks on the Kherson Front. The Russian propaganda accounts on Twitter are saying that the Wagner Group ambushed them with Sointsepek missiles and left nothing but "burned bodies and NATO equipment."
Russian media reports that the “First Deputy Chairman of the Kherson Regional State Administration for Security” Aleksey Katerinichev was killed last night. He was a 3 star. See photo below.
Lastly, Russian milbloggers on Telegram are admitting the Ukrainians have broken through their lines to a depth of 20 kilometers on the north side of the Kherson bridgehead.
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Freshly conscripted men Bodaybo, Irkutsk oblast. The Russian mobilization continues. Meanwhile, estimated Russian KIA + equipment losses up to this morning.
Most recently, eight members of the 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Russian special operations brigade were listed as killed in action around Lyman. That makes 73 members of that unit killed in action in Ukraine +3 more KIA in Syria.
This figure doesn't include the Russian soldiers taken prisoner by Ukrainian forces. I've been unable to find any well-sourced numbers for that, though there have been 24 prisoner exchanges with the Ukrainians getting about 800 people back.
A couple of maps showing the general Ukrainian advance. The current maps floating around differ wildly as the situation is fluid with lots of conflicting info.
A photo of the train with the 17 Iskander missile systems aboard.
Lastly, a photo of Aleksey Katerinichev
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 3, 2022 17:59:29 GMT
Just in from John.
Brief Update:
The Russian Army has "misplaced" 1.2 million sets of winter uniforms.
Keeping their cannon fodder conscripts from freezing to death starting next month is going to be a major logistical challenge.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 3, 2022 18:47:27 GMT
Just in from John. Brief Update: The Russian Army has "misplaced" 1.2 million sets of winter uniforms. Keeping their cannon fodder conscripts from freezing to death starting next month is going to be a major logistical challenge. That is a bit of a misjudgment on their part… I imagine the young lads “signing” up were told about all the special equipment they’d get whilst the Ukrainians would be freezing…
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Post by scfcfred on Oct 3, 2022 20:14:54 GMT
From John R Bruning News from Ukraine: The Ukrainian armed forces launched another offensive this weekend. This time, they attacked the north side of the Russian bridgehead across the Dnieper River near Kherson. The Russians on that part of the line broke and ran. A Russian reporter on Telegram has been begging for air support. Most recent reports suggest the front's collapse is so complete that the Ukrainian forward elements advanced 75 kilometers today. That puts them about 80 kms from Kherson now on that side of the line. There are somewhere between 20,000 and 50,000 Russians west of the Dnieper. This comes a day after Lyman fell to the Ukrainians, where some 5000 Russians were captured and another 1500 killed trying to escape as they were being surrounded. Unconfirmed report says 500 Russian conscripts flat out refused to fight today. Very exciting news on Kherson oblast. I'm pretty convinced Ukraine has made the ~30 km to Dudchany but maybe they started a bit closer. There are rumours they're fighting in Beryslav which would be ~70 km if it's the city but a lot less if it's the edge of the district (basically parish?). I've seen some horrible stuff out of Lyman and the experts are saying 1k+ losses for the Russians. Nothing like 5k captured from the videos or other reliable sources yet. 1k losses would be incredible in one place. Ukrainian Field strategy has been Incredible. The Kherson strangle will be talked about in military folk law for many a year.
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Post by musik on Oct 3, 2022 20:51:04 GMT
George Orwell would love/hate this. In Russian media, now the four provinces occupied by Russian forces are portrayed as "liberating" areas "occupied' by the Ukranians. They do not longer belong to Ukraine. Dangerous if Ukraine occupy them. It can lead to the use of nuclear weapons since they canceled the old Gorbatjov agreement, as I wrote about.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 3, 2022 21:08:19 GMT
George Orwell would love/hate this. In Russian media, now the four provinces occupied by Russian forces are portrayed as "liberating" areas "occupied' by the Ukranians. They do not longer belong to Ukraine. Dangerous if Ukraine occupy them. It can lead to the use of nuclear weapons since they canceled the old Gorbatjov agreement, as I wrote about. I don't understand. Why does Ukraine belong to Russia? Just because Russia occupied parts of it?
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Post by Davef on Oct 3, 2022 21:41:20 GMT
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Post by musik on Oct 3, 2022 21:54:30 GMT
They do not longer belong to Ukraine. Dangerous if Ukraine occupy them. It can lead to the use of nuclear weapons since they canceled the old Gorbatjov agreement, as I wrote about. I don't understand. Why does Ukraine belong to Russia? Just because Russia occupied parts of it? There was a very good program on TV here, explaining how the former agreement worked between Gorbatjov (Russia that is) and USA. It said Russia won't use nuclear weapons if they are attacked by conventional weapons, they would only use conventional weapons as a response. But when Putin got the power he changed all that, the agreement was canceled. Instead they wrote another paper on their own for use as a military strategic guideline. It says, as soon as Russia feel they're threatened in any way they have the right to use nuclear weapons. According to military strategic experts, Russia left Lyman on purpose just to be teased to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine tries to take back what no longer belongs to them. Russia now see those regions as Russia, you see.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2022 22:23:06 GMT
I don't understand. Why does Ukraine belong to Russia? Just because Russia occupied parts of it? There was a very good program on TV here, explaining how the former agreement worked between Gorbatjov (Russia that is) and USA. It said Russia won't use nuclear weapons if they are attacked by conventional weapons, they would only use conventional weapons as a response. But when Putin got the power he changed all that, the agreement was canceled. Instead they wrote another paper on their own for use as a military strategic guideline. It says, as soon as Russia feel they're threatened in any way they have the right to use nuclear weapons. According to military strategic experts, Russia left Lyman on purpose just to be teased to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine tries to take back what no longer belongs to them. Russia now see those regions as Russia, you see. Well they've been taking towns in each of the 4 regions each day since his little tantrum....I mean speech. Not sure why anyone is taking that shit seriously.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 3, 2022 22:50:18 GMT
There was a very good program on TV here, explaining how the former agreement worked between Gorbatjov (Russia that is) and USA. It said Russia won't use nuclear weapons if they are attacked by conventional weapons, they would only use conventional weapons as a response. But when Putin got the power he changed all that, the agreement was canceled. Instead they wrote another paper on their own for use as a military strategic guideline. It says, as soon as Russia feel they're threatened in any way they have the right to use nuclear weapons. According to military strategic experts, Russia left Lyman on purpose just to be teased to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine tries to take back what no longer belongs to them. Russia now see those regions as Russia, you see. Well they've been taking towns in each of the 4 regions each day since his little tantrum....I mean speech. Not sure why anyone is taking that shit seriously. Because he's murdering thousands of innocent people by the day and probably responsible for more deaths than any dictator in our lifetime? I'd be surprised if we weren't comfortably into 6 digit death tolls.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2022 22:53:25 GMT
Well they've been taking towns in each of the 4 regions each day since his little tantrum....I mean speech. Not sure why anyone is taking that shit seriously. Because he's murdering thousands of innocent people by the day and probably responsible for more deaths than any dictator in our lifetime? I'd be surprised if we weren't comfortably into 6 digit death tolls. You know I meant the whole nuclear threat. It’s not a threat.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 3, 2022 22:53:33 GMT
Well they've been taking towns in each of the 4 regions each day since his little tantrum....I mean speech. Not sure why anyone is taking that shit seriously. Because he's murdering thousands of innocent people by the day and probably responsible for more deaths than any dictator in our lifetime? I'd be surprised if we weren't comfortably into 6 digit death tolls. TBF I think Bayern meant the rabid threats from Russians that are trying to scare the West away from supporting Ukraine. Today looks like a good day. Need to wait on confirmation but Kharkiv Oblast could be fully cleaned of invaders any time now. That'd be the sixth Oblast Russia has been kicked out of*. Their little tendrils in Mykolaiv next, hopefully. *I think. Kyiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, Zhytomir, Kirovohrad.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 3, 2022 23:00:51 GMT
Because he's murdering thousands of innocent people by the day and probably responsible for more deaths than any dictator in our lifetime? I'd be surprised if we weren't comfortably into 6 digit death tolls. TBF I think Bayern meant the rabid threats from Russians that are trying to scare the West away from supporting Ukraine. Today looks like a good day. Need to wait on confirmation but Kharkiv Oblast could be fully cleaned of invaders any time now. That'd be the sixth Oblast Russia has been kicked out of*. Their little tendrils in Mykolaiv next, hopefully. *I think. Kyiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, Zhytomir, Kirovohrad. I mean it's obviously all great news, but I wonder where this all ends. Putin is a total madman who will not accept defeat. I think we just have to hope his failures on the battlefield lead to his assassination and his replacement is more rational. While he's alive I just can't see a civilised negotiation of any kind taking place.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Oct 4, 2022 1:53:12 GMT
Are you a expert specialist in Russian military, ?? Not at all. Just repeating numbers from Oryx for losses and the Institute for Strategic Studies' 2022 Military Balance report for starting numbers. So you know nothing
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 4, 2022 4:53:22 GMT
Not at all. Just repeating numbers from Oryx for losses and the Institute for Strategic Studies' 2022 Military Balance report for starting numbers. So you know nothing He knows like the rest of us Russia is getting its arse handing to it on a plate
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Post by plug on Oct 4, 2022 6:33:56 GMT
Not at all. Just repeating numbers from Oryx for losses and the Institute for Strategic Studies' 2022 Military Balance report for starting numbers. So you know nothing Grow up. Mrstudent has been posting good information on here, all you post are snide digs at him. Bore off.
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Post by musik on Oct 4, 2022 8:18:30 GMT
Is it possible Ukraine actually have some nuclear weapons?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 4, 2022 8:28:40 GMT
Is it possible Ukraine actually have some nuclear weapons? Now that would be an entertaining turn of events. Unfortunately I don't think they do.
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Post by scfcfred on Oct 4, 2022 8:33:22 GMT
Just announced US to send 4 more HIMARS to Ukraine
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Post by scfcfred on Oct 4, 2022 8:47:38 GMT
Is it possible Ukraine actually have some nuclear weapons? Unfortunately Ukraine gave up it's nuclear arsenal under the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. Britain, United States and ironically Russian signed a security agreement to protect Ukraine if attacked. In hindsight would of been better to keep them.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 4, 2022 9:19:47 GMT
Is it possible Ukraine actually have some nuclear weapons? I think these things are (thankfully) monitored very closely. I think having some nuclear weapons and keeping it secret would be very, very difficult in this day and age.
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