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Post by longdistancekiddie on Aug 19, 2022 12:19:16 GMT
You keep telling everyone on here that the Russian are no way near Kiev, ??
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 19, 2022 12:23:34 GMT
You keep telling everyone on here that the Russian are no way near Kiev, ?? There not now but they were until they had there arses handed to them on a plate
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 19, 2022 12:30:17 GMT
You keep telling everyone on here that the Russian are no way near Kiev, ?? They were near Kyiv in March. They used the time to rape, torture and murder innocent Ukrainian civilians until the ZSU kicked the shit out of them and forced Putin to order a retreat.
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 19, 2022 12:35:05 GMT
Propaganda and misinformation from both sides like there is in every war , who knows who to believe.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Aug 19, 2022 12:58:45 GMT
You keep telling everyone on here that the Russian are no way near Kiev, ?? They were near Kyiv in March. They used the time to rape, torture and murder innocent Ukrainian civilians until the ZSU kicked the shit out of them and forced Putin to order a retreat. How do you know this
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 14:10:12 GMT
Propaganda and misinformation from both sides like there is in every war , who knows who to believe. Believe the good guys.
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 19, 2022 14:18:32 GMT
Propaganda and misinformation from both sides like there is in every war , who knows who to believe. Believe the good guys. Who are the good guys ?
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 14:52:09 GMT
The ones we’re backing. Until we don’t back ‘em. Then they’re the bad guys.
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 19, 2022 14:58:51 GMT
The ones we’re backing. Until we don’t back ‘em. Then they’re the bad guys. I support the current thing
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 19, 2022 15:04:07 GMT
The ones that haven’t invaded another sovereign country Not that you should have to ask
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 19, 2022 15:12:34 GMT
The ones that haven’t invaded another sovereign country Not that you should have to ask There's more to it than that mate like with most things.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 19, 2022 16:47:11 GMT
They were near Kyiv in March. They used the time to rape, torture and murder innocent Ukrainian civilians until the ZSU kicked the shit out of them and forced Putin to order a retreat. How do you know this Which bit? The only bit I don't *know* is that Putin ordered the retreat. Could have been Shoigu or Gerasimov etc but Putin must have cleared it. You can find videos and satellite images to back everything else up.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 19, 2022 19:38:30 GMT
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Post by sticky on Aug 19, 2022 20:03:19 GMT
Are the sanctions actually working? and if so how much longer untill they have the desired effect?.. genuinely interested and not as informed as much as you guys👍🏻
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Aug 19, 2022 20:14:17 GMT
Which bit? The only bit I don't *know* is that Putin ordered the retreat. Could have been Shoigu or Gerasimov etc but Putin must have cleared it. You can find videos and satellite images to back everything else up. All of it, where can you find these videos
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Aug 19, 2022 20:16:52 GMT
The ones that haven’t invaded another sovereign country Not that you should have to ask Does this rule apply to invading Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and supporting the invasion of Yemen and Palestine,. ??
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Aug 19, 2022 20:17:58 GMT
Which bit? The only bit I don't *know* is that Putin ordered the retreat. Could have been Shoigu or Gerasimov etc but Putin must have cleared it. You can find videos and satellite images to back everything else up. You know nothing , the same as you knew nothing about COVID
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 19, 2022 20:24:12 GMT
The ones that haven’t invaded another sovereign country Not that you should have to ask Does this rule apply to invading Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and supporting the invasion of Yemen and Palestine,. ?? Yes
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Post by questionable on Aug 19, 2022 20:29:58 GMT
I came across an article whereby lots of arms suppliers were making shells for the American 155mm Howitzers. The ones in the link you basically put in an address and the rest is history, they can also be armed to explode a few feet off the ground rather than impact to eliminate infantry. All in all there’s some serious shit heading Russia’s way. /bye
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 20, 2022 6:33:17 GMT
Which bit? The only bit I don't *know* is that Putin ordered the retreat. Could have been Shoigu or Gerasimov etc but Putin must have cleared it. You can find videos and satellite images to back everything else up. All of it, where can you find these videos Russian tanks in Brovary. Russian column wrecked in outskirts of Kyiv. There are shitloads more. Do you agree Russia was attacking very in close to Kyiv in March now?
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 20, 2022 6:42:04 GMT
Are the sanctions actually working? and if so how much longer untill they have the desired effect?.. genuinely interested and not as informed as much as you guys👍🏻 I've followed closely and I don't expect a sudden moment where they go from 0% to 100% but they seem to be working already. Russian stats agency says car production dropped by over 90% for example, and they're importing very little now, so it's hard for them to get high tech stuff. Oil and gas prices went sky high so Russia got a huge sugar rush of money but that'll run out. Russia is sending in older and older kit, like tanks and missiles from the '60s. Sanctions are slowly eating out the core of Russian tech and sending their army back in time.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 20, 2022 9:10:25 GMT
Erdogan has come out of this, without doubt, proving himself to be the strongest, most authoritative and arguably one of the most competent leaders in the "West" and Nato. I don't think that's a particularly difficult accolade to claim when your up against the likes of Boris, Biden, Macron and Von Der Liar, but it's certainly something to note. That's not to say he's always been ethically sound or indeed, appealing to all Turkish citizens, but he looks a cut above the rest right now in terms of "leadership" and is our best hope of a speedy negotiation between Putin and Zelensky. www.ft.com/content/605b98c9-2031-4926-851c-12f8ef536150
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 20, 2022 12:45:27 GMT
Erdogan has come out of this, without doubt, proving himself to be the strongest, most authoritative and arguably one of the most competent leaders in the "West" and Nato. I don't think that's a particularly difficult accolade to claim when your up against the likes of Boris, Biden, Macron and Von Der Liar, but it's certainly something to note. That's not to say he's always been ethically sound or indeed, appealing to all Turkish citizens, but he looks a cut above the rest right now in terms of "leadership" and is our best hope of a speedy negotiation between Putin and Zelensky. www.ft.com/content/605b98c9-2031-4926-851c-12f8ef536150There shouldn’t be peace talks until Russia removes all its troops to pre 2013 borders
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Post by questionable on Aug 20, 2022 12:51:43 GMT
Quite looking forward to Ukraine’s 4 billion dollar bridge in Crimea that Russia kindly erected for them to get blown to smithereens.
Hopefully it’ll be full of Russians at the time 👍
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 20, 2022 12:57:56 GMT
Erdogan has come out of this, without doubt, proving himself to be the strongest, most authoritative and arguably one of the most competent leaders in the "West" and Nato. I don't think that's a particularly difficult accolade to claim when your up against the likes of Boris, Biden, Macron and Von Der Liar, but it's certainly something to note. That's not to say he's always been ethically sound or indeed, appealing to all Turkish citizens, but he looks a cut above the rest right now in terms of "leadership" and is our best hope of a speedy negotiation between Putin and Zelensky. www.ft.com/content/605b98c9-2031-4926-851c-12f8ef536150There shouldn’t be peace talks until Russia removes all its troops to pre 2013 borders I agree. It is absolutely essential that Russia are seen to actually lose from their aggression and gain nothing. If they gain there are other countries that will think they can expand their territory by invasion. That could impact on the UK as their still countries we protect.
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Post by musik on Aug 20, 2022 17:53:42 GMT
Why isn't this on the news as much anymore?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2022 22:25:44 GMT
Very early (so could be crap) reports that Aleksandr Dugin’s (who is Putin ideology mentor) daughter has been assassinated via a car bomb in Moscow.
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Post by questionable on Aug 22, 2022 14:31:22 GMT
Report from 2 days ago.
With the Pro Russian Reporter being blown up you can see Putin and his puppets being out for blood now, tactical nukes I wouldn’t put it past him and NATO putting boots on the ground.
The Army’s top “other ranks” soldier says troops must be ready to fight Russia – and should alert loved ones to a potential conflict. Warrant Officer Paul Carney warned that the UK military was now “shaping itself to meet the threat from Russia and was ready to counter any aggression”. The time had come to prepare “families and loved ones” for the possibility of being sent to the East. He said the world had changed since Vladimir Putin ’s invasion of Ukraine on February 23 – six months ago on Tuesday – and British troops “must be prepared for new realities”. WO1 Carney – the Army’s highest ranked Warrant Officer – wrote in Soldier magazine: “I want us all to check we are physically fit for operations. And it is also important we prepare loved ones and families, who often have the hardest role in our absence.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 22, 2022 14:52:34 GMT
Very early (so could be crap) reports that Aleksandr Dugin’s (who is Putin ideology mentor) daughter has been assassinated via a car bomb in Moscow. This really has nothing to do with Ukraine, but, of course, Putin will use it to justify more appalling actions. It’s highly likely this is a false flag action; Putin has form for these.
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Post by questionable on Aug 22, 2022 15:06:52 GMT
Very early (so could be crap) reports that Aleksandr Dugin’s (who is Putin ideology mentor) daughter has been assassinated via a car bomb in Moscow. This really has nothing to do with Ukraine, but, of course, Putin will use it to justify more appalling actions. It’s highly likely this is a false flag action; Putin has form for these. Apparently it’s the doing of a Ukrainian woman who rented an apartment next to the blown up woman, drives a mini and has now gone to Estonia.... From all accounts she fully endorsed the invasion of Ukraine, pity it didn’t get both of them.
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