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Post by george2again on Dec 6, 2021 3:57:49 GMT
Great squad option whatever division were in, only signed a one year deal did he not?
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Post by walrus on Dec 6, 2021 6:46:35 GMT
Yes, even if we manage to get promoted his quality and set piece delivery would be useful for Prem cameos.
He’s played far more minutes that we thought he would and although he does fade in and out of games he’s shown he’s got some legs in him yet.
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Post by teenagefanclub on Dec 6, 2021 7:57:26 GMT
100%
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Post by RF10 on Dec 6, 2021 8:16:02 GMT
No rush yet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 8:22:00 GMT
He looks a bit physically lightweight for the championship , but he's involved in his fair share of goals and assists
He is obviously quality on the ball .
But if he plays does that mean , we definitely need a midfield enforcer somewhere in the midfield ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 8:27:47 GMT
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Post by Didcot Stokie on Dec 6, 2021 8:29:16 GMT
Was he signed on a contract like Chester & Mikel where another year was an option to both player & club? He defo deserves another year at least.
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 6, 2021 8:37:48 GMT
He looks a bit physically lightweight for the championship , but he's involved in his fair share of goals and assists He is obviously quality on the ball . But if he plays does that mean , we definitely need a midfield enforcer somewhere in the midfield ? Lightweight he sure is, but he's made his fair share of tackles too which have been more than useful on occasions. Could do with some of the other midfielders mucking in a bit more as well with tackling. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 6, 2021 8:46:16 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if there's an option for another year built into his contract.......
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 6, 2021 9:32:41 GMT
The whole midfield is lightweight, even when Powell is back to a certain extent. A more physically imposing central midfielder is crucial I think, before we start offering some one a new contract for next season in December. It'll be a case of both parties waiting until the end of the season.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 6, 2021 9:43:52 GMT
The whole midfield is lightweight, even when Powell is back to a certain extent. A more physically imposing central midfielder is crucial I think, before we start offering some one a new contract for next season in December. It'll be a case of both parties waiting until the end of the season. So you'd let our most creative player this season run down his contract and hope we sign some lump of a midfielder instead? After his performances this season the only reason Vrancic would want to wait is because every club in the Championship will be after him in the summer. Sign him up asap. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 6, 2021 9:45:19 GMT
Was he signed on a contract like Chester & Mikel where another year was an option to both player & club? He defo deserves another year at least. Yeah, it was described as an "initial 1-yr deal", so sounds very much like there is a built-in second year if he hits certain targets, which he almost certainly will unless he gets injured? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2021 9:47:50 GMT
Even if we got promoted he’s worth having on the bench.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 6, 2021 9:48:00 GMT
Was he signed on a contract like Chester & Mikel where another year was an option to both player & club? He defo deserves another year at least. Yeah, it was described as an "initial 1-yr deal", so sounds very much like there is a built-in second year if he hits certain targets, which he almost certainly will unless he gets injured? Welcome back mate👍 |
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Post by lancer on Dec 6, 2021 9:54:59 GMT
He looks a bit physically lightweight for the championship , but he's involved in his fair share of goals and assists He is obviously quality on the ball . But if he plays does that mean , we definitely need a midfield enforcer somewhere in the midfield ? Lightweight he sure is, but he's made his fair share of tackles too which have been more than useful on occasions. Could do with some of the other midfielders mucking in a bit more as well with tackling. Terry Conroy wasn't exactly a heavyweight, nor was George Eastham, but their lack of weight didn't stop them being invaluable members of the team.What they lacked in weight they more than made up for in pace in TCs case or guile in GEs case. |
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 6, 2021 10:24:38 GMT
Welcome back fuller magic, especially with transfer window looming 😉
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 6, 2021 10:50:57 GMT
A fantastic signing who usually looks a class above the Championship (usually because the wrestling for the penalty yesterday was idiotic). Hopefully he stays another year because players like him aren’t easy to get.
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Post by armitage on Dec 6, 2021 11:57:34 GMT
Even if we got promoted he’s worth having on the bench. Agreed. I assumed we'd be seeing him for an hour or so and then get subbed or maybe just coming on for the last 25 minutes. I'm amazed he's put in so many 90 odd minute performances. Bravo lad |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2021 12:00:56 GMT
Even if we got promoted he’s worth having on the bench. Agreed. I assumed we'd be seeing him for an hour or so and then get subbed or maybe just coming on for the last 25 minutes. I'm amazed he's put in so many 90 odd minute performances. Bravo lad Has he put that many 90 minute performances in? I don't think he has tbh. Yesterday was one of his better games for sure but he goes missing far too often. But when he turns it on he's absolutely superb. He's not a lightweight either but does need 2 deeper players to cover him. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2021 12:05:58 GMT
Agreed. I assumed we'd be seeing him for an hour or so and then get subbed or maybe just coming on for the last 25 minutes. I'm amazed he's put in so many 90 odd minute performances. Bravo lad Has he put that many 90 minute performances in? I don't think he has tbh. Yesterday was one of his better games for sure but he goes missing far too often. But when he turns it on he's absolutely superb. He's not a lightweight either but does need 2 deeper players to cover him. he's not put in may performances below a 7 out of ten & none below a 6 imho when he's not at his best he still does the simple things well & for a 'lightweight' player he doesn't skimp his tackling duties |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2021 12:07:19 GMT
Has he put that many 90 minute performances in? I don't think he has tbh. Yesterday was one of his better games for sure but he goes missing far too often. But when he turns it on he's absolutely superb. He's not a lightweight either but does need 2 deeper players to cover him. he's not put in may performances below a 7 out of ten & none below a 6 imho when he's not at his best he still does the simple things well & for a 'lightweight' player he doesn't skimp his tackling duties I think he's a 5/10 minute a game type player on the whole but those 5/10 minutes are often class. I wouldn't have him in our best XI. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 12:13:35 GMT
No brainer for me his age doesn't seem to limit him.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 6, 2021 12:37:11 GMT
He looks a bit physically lightweight for the championship , but he's involved in his fair share of goals and assists He is obviously quality on the ball . But if he plays does that mean , we definitely need a midfield enforcer somewhere in the midfield ? Stop perpetuating this myth. Deceptively strong and can look after himself. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 6, 2021 12:41:47 GMT
Against Blackburn and again yesterday he showed that even when he's shattered at the end of a game he can still produce moments of magic. He was the only way we were going to score against Blackburn.
I'm hoping 'initial one year deal' already means the foundations are their for a second year like JOM last year.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 6, 2021 12:51:48 GMT
He looks a bit physically lightweight for the championship , but he's involved in his fair share of goals and assists He is obviously quality on the ball . But if he plays does that mean , we definitely need a midfield enforcer somewhere in the midfield ? Stop perpetuating this myth. Deceptively strong and can look after himself. Yes before he came I was expecting a right wuss who'd fall over if you blew on him and couldn't last more than 15 minutes. Whilst you couldn't describe him as 'hard tackling' he's prepared to put himself about and is less injury prone than some of the younger players. I'm pleasantly surprised by both his quality and his fitness and durability. Cue a season ending injury on Saturday  |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 6, 2021 13:59:02 GMT
The whole midfield is lightweight, even when Powell is back to a certain extent. A more physically imposing central midfielder is crucial I think, before we start offering some one a new contract for next season in December. It'll be a case of both parties waiting until the end of the season. So you'd let our most creative player this season run down his contract and hope we sign some lump of a midfielder instead? After his performances this season the only reason Vrancic would want to wait is because every club in the Championship will be after him in the summer. Sign him up asap. Depending on the terms of his contract, it may not be something that crops up until the end of the year anyway. I like him a lot, but he's not getting any younger and his game time has to be managed. I'd rather a new DM, with Powell and one of Vrancic and Sawyers (or Allen, or another new midfielder if we can get rid of Clucas). He'll be a good option but if we somehow manage to get to the Prem, it's doubtful we'd sign him for another year. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2021 14:05:14 GMT
So you'd let our most creative player this season run down his contract and hope we sign some lump of a midfielder instead? After his performances this season the only reason Vrancic would want to wait is because every club in the Championship will be after him in the summer. Sign him up asap. Depending on the terms of his contract, it may not be something that crops up until the end of the year anyway. I like him a lot, but he's not getting any younger and his game time has to be managed. I'd rather a new DM, with Powell and one of Vrancic and Sawyers (or Allen, or another new midfielder if we can get rid of Clucas). He'll be a good option but if we somehow manage to get to the Prem, it's doubtful we'd sign him for another year. We tried to get rid of Allen & Clucas last summer by allowing them to go on free transfers if someone would pick up their juicy contracts no one did Clucas got a new contract so presumably he has a longer deal on reduced terms (but still good money)? can't see either leaving in January for the same reason as such I can't see any room £££ to add a midfielder in January Is Allen out of contract next summer? If so either he leaves or gets a much reduced deal either way that should free up money for an extra player or a replacement for him Ince & Afobe out the door next summer too should free up some money for a decent player in the attacking third in the summer too |
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 6, 2021 14:20:10 GMT
He looks a bit physically lightweight for the championship , but he's involved in his fair share of goals and assists He is obviously quality on the ball . But if he plays does that mean , we definitely need a midfield enforcer somewhere in the midfield ? Lightweight he sure is, but he's made his fair share of tackles too which have been more than useful on occasions. Could do with some of the other midfielders mucking in a bit more as well with tackling. He didn't look lightweight when he body slammed their central defender yesterday. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Dec 6, 2021 16:58:41 GMT
he's not put in may performances below a 7 out of ten & none below a 6 imho when he's not at his best he still does the simple things well & for a 'lightweight' player he doesn't skimp his tackling duties I think he's a 5/10 minute a game type player on the whole but those 5/10 minutes are often class. I wouldn't have him in our best XI. Ha ha ha. You wouldn't have a player with the highest chance creation rate per 90mins in the division in your starting lineup, christ we must be fucking good. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 17:03:55 GMT
The guy is absolute class.
Vision, passing, crossing, shooting, headlocks - he's got the lot.
Can you imagine how we'd be going on over the past month if we didn't have him, and Powell was injured?
Our midfield would be null and void of all creativity.
You need players like Powell and Vrancic in the squad. No brainer to keep him on.
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