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Post by hyaduck on Oct 25, 2021 1:40:00 GMT
Not much to shout about lately or haven't you noticed. Must be the work in progress.
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 25, 2021 7:12:35 GMT
I would suggest the majority of those who think we are capable of top six weren’t there on Saturday. The sheer number of basic errors was alarming. I saw less misplaced passes at under 11s on Sunday Morning. There is no way I was watching a Top six side. Hope I’m Wrong but with the inevitable increase in competitiveness of the second half of the season it looks unlikely.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 25, 2021 7:26:27 GMT
I would suggest the majority of those who think we are capable of top six weren’t there on Saturday. The sheer number of basic errors was alarming. I saw less misplaced passes at under 11s on Sunday Morning. There is no way I was watching a Top six side. Hope I’m Wrong but with the inevitable increase in competitiveness of the second half of the season it looks unlikely. Even the sides who eventually finish in the top 2, let alone the top 6, won't look like promotion sides every single week though. I don't know if we're good enough to finish top six and there's plenty to iron out, but I've seen a few people comparing this season with last, and to me we look a good step up from where we were last season even before Campbell's injury.
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 25, 2021 7:45:18 GMT
I would suggest the majority of those who think we are capable of top six weren’t there on Saturday. The sheer number of basic errors was alarming. I saw less misplaced passes at under 11s on Sunday Morning. There is no way I was watching a Top six side. Hope I’m Wrong but with the inevitable increase in competitiveness of the second half of the season it looks unlikely. Even the sides who eventually finish in the top 2, let alone the top 6, won't look like promotion sides every single week though. I don't know if we're good enough to finish top six and there's plenty to iron out, but I've seen a few people comparing this season with last, and to me we look a good step up from where we were last season even before Campbell's injury. I hope this manager is capable of turning this around. We only have the evidence of last season to suggest otherwise. He seems very stubborn in his selection of underperforming players which is worrying. We all knew another big challenge would be keeping our top 11 fit (whoever they are). The next six games will probably define our season. Fingers crossed.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 25, 2021 7:51:20 GMT
Even the sides who eventually finish in the top 2, let alone the top 6, won't look like promotion sides every single week though. I don't know if we're good enough to finish top six and there's plenty to iron out, but I've seen a few people comparing this season with last, and to me we look a good step up from where we were last season even before Campbell's injury. I hope this manager is capable of turning this around. We only have the evidence of last season to suggest otherwise. He seems very stubborn in his selection of underperforming players which is worrying. We all knew another big challenge would be keeping our top 11 fit (whoever they are). The next six games will probably define our season. Fingers crossed. Do we not also have the evidence of the season before too? I totally get the frustrations with some of the things he does, he leaves me scratching my head with some of his calls too. But the signs are we're moving in the right direction overall and putting the right things in place. It's happening slowly, but that it's happening at all should be reason enough to stay the course.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 25, 2021 8:14:20 GMT
There are 3 sides miles better than everyone else (the current top 3). After that there's a scramble for 3 places between a lot of average sides, who are all going to drop plenty of points. We've had a bad week but we're still in with a decent chance of getting one of those spots, even with the flaws we have. Spot on. We are in the mix with about six or seven clubs for those final 3 places and are perfectly capable of getting there. Thing is we are no where near good enough to stay up if we won promotion - the three you mentioned would struggle, we'd get annihilated. The fact that we're competing at the right end of the table and playing some very attractive football at times is a massive step forward compared with where we were just 2 years ago when we were serious relegation candidates. I still think the squad rebuild needs another summer window before we are serious promotion candidates rather than a team just good enough for the top 6.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Oct 25, 2021 10:13:28 GMT
Another Summer window will be made even more difficult as we will be replacing Souttar and possibly Campbell. Depending on where we finish outside the Top 6 (if that happens), MON may not be the person to manage the rebuild and spend the money.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 11:08:39 GMT
It's a top 6 squad, it has to be. There can't be many stronger in the league. That said it was all looking so good until 3 games ago, stay patient, it's a long old season. Absolutely. Been a bad week. Lost by the odd goal and long season as you say. To write us off is nonsense.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 25, 2021 11:36:04 GMT
Another Summer window will be made even more difficult as we will be replacing Souttar and possibly Campbell. Depending on where we finish outside the Top 6 (if that happens), MON may not be the person to manage the rebuild and spend the money. Thats the reality in that it will be highly likely we lose those two and maybe even Bursik. Continuous re build that has to be timed right.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Oct 25, 2021 11:41:59 GMT
I would suggest the majority of those who think we are capable of top six weren’t there on Saturday. The sheer number of basic errors was alarming. I saw less misplaced passes at under 11s on Sunday Morning. There is no way I was watching a Top six side. Hope I’m Wrong but with the inevitable increase in competitiveness of the second half of the season it looks unlikely. Even the sides who eventually finish in the top 2, let alone the top 6, won't look like promotion sides every single week though. I don't know if we're good enough to finish top six and there's plenty to iron out, but I've seen a few people comparing this season with last, and to me we look a good step up from where we were last season even before Campbell's injury. Last year we were just a one man team before Christmas.
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Post by Fegg 'Ayes Observer on Oct 25, 2021 18:00:05 GMT
Doomed to the bottom six is more likely. Another relegation fight could be the outcome
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 25, 2021 18:04:06 GMT
Doomed to the bottom six is more likely. Another relegation fight could be the outcome A bit dramatic
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Post by yyy on Oct 25, 2021 19:09:42 GMT
In this division there is every chance we can win the next 3 games, few teams will not have a few bad results this season
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 19:22:38 GMT
Doomed to the bottom six is more likely. Another relegation fight could be the outcome Which is absolute nonsense
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Post by dirtclod on Oct 25, 2021 19:41:28 GMT
Last season we were a doormat. This season we're a nuisance. (Just how large is yet to be determined) I'm hoping for full-on "Pest" by next year!
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Post by Davef on Oct 25, 2021 19:47:30 GMT
In this division there is every chance we can win the next 3 games, few teams will not have a few bad results this season It's five years this weekend (and we've spent three and a quarter seasons in the Championship) since we last won three consecutive league games, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't hold out much hope of winning our next three.
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Post by yyy on Oct 25, 2021 20:01:14 GMT
In this division there is every chance we can win the next 3 games, few teams will not have a few bad results this season It's five years this weekend (and we've spent three and a quarter seasons in the Championship) since we last won three consecutive league games, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't hold out much hope of winning our next three. Is it really that long since we won 3 in a row? That's a bit of a shocking stat, even so I still think anything is possible in this division, we're far from out of it imo
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 25, 2021 20:04:27 GMT
Only one solution
A continental manager
Period
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 25, 2021 20:05:07 GMT
The biggest flaw is the manager though. Hard one to get over when he can’t spot the obvious. Do you want him sacking again? YES
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Post by Gods on Oct 25, 2021 20:11:55 GMT
In this division there is every chance we can win the next 3 games, few teams will not have a few bad results this season It's five years this weekend (and we've spent three and a quarter seasons in the Championship) since we last won three consecutive league games, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't hold out much hope of winning our next three. Goodness me. That's a stat which sits comfortably with its pal, 8 years since a win in London!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 25, 2021 20:57:28 GMT
Only one solution A continental manager Period Guarantees absolutely nothing……
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 25, 2021 21:13:52 GMT
In this division there is every chance we can win the next 3 games, few teams will not have a few bad results this season It's five years this weekend (and we've spent three and a quarter seasons in the Championship) since we last won three consecutive league games, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't hold out much hope of winning our next three. That’s a woeful statistic.
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 25, 2021 21:20:04 GMT
It's five years this weekend (and we've spent three and a quarter seasons in the Championship) since we last won three consecutive league games, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't hold out much hope of winning our next three. Is it really that long since we won 3 in a row? That's a bit of a shocking stat, even so I still think anything is possible in this division, we're far from out of it imo Yes I'm afraid 3 in a row seems a bridge too far for Stoke.. the stat from God's below is equally worrying. I, like you, still think we're not out of the running yet but we definitely need MoN to admit to himself that his approach appears to contain flaws and then he should put the issues right. If he can do that he will prove he's the man for the job and until then he remains a man with something to prove as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by ct1 on Oct 25, 2021 23:13:12 GMT
I'm confused are we joint 5th 9 points off automatic promotion place or joint 11th 12 points away from relegation? Did we just have the best transfer window ever or once again did we not sign the players we needed? Have we been playing the best football seen for a few years or are we dire and easy to beat? Is the manager doing a great job in turning the club around or should he be sacked immediately? Maybe I should stop reading all the posts on the oatcake!! 😂😂
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Post by Gods on Oct 25, 2021 23:20:58 GMT
I'm confused are we joint 5th 9 points off automatic promotion place or joint 11th 12 points away from relegation? Did we just have the best transfer window ever or once again did we not sign the players we needed? Have we been playing the best football seen for a few years or are we dire and easy to beat? Is the manager doing a great job in turning the club around or should he be sacked immediately? Maybe I should stop reading all the posts on the oatcake!! 😂😂 I'd brace yourself for a mid-table finish. Whether that is any good or not, well beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
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Post by thevoid on Oct 26, 2021 9:23:12 GMT
It's five years this weekend (and we've spent three and a quarter seasons in the Championship) since we last won three consecutive league games, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't hold out much hope of winning our next three. Goodness me. That's a stat which sits comfortably with its pal, 8 years since a win in London! That's shocking considering the varied quality of teams in London. We even managed to lose at Charlton.
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 26, 2021 10:23:40 GMT
Powell is a huge miss for us and unfortunately places even more pressure on Ty to come up trumps. I was expecting an upper mid table spot at the start of the season but as it seems as the top three will be battling it out for automatic spots leaving the also rans after the playoff spots which unfortunately looks a little beyond us on current form.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 12:39:30 GMT
MoN is likeable and it's impossible to argue he is doing a worse job than NJ , but is tactics are plain odd .
Damien rice was on radio 5 the other day talking about his partnership with Kalvin Phillips ( England ) and Thomas soucek ( west ham )
In other words Southgate wants two CDM Moyes wants 2 CDM
And according to MoN we don't need any
If we don't need any , how come Jordan Henderson and Fernandino get a game for Liverpool and man city .
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 26, 2021 15:14:14 GMT
I like MON and I have enjoyed a lot of the football we have played in patches, however, the midfield personnel we have, no matter what combination, will be much too lightweight and easily penetrated against alot of the better teams in this league.
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 26, 2021 16:00:46 GMT
Only one solution A continental manager Period Guarantees absolutely nothing…… That Bruno bloke who went Costa del Burslem sounds a great choice
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