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Post by mattador78 on Jul 27, 2022 6:35:42 GMT
If it’s not a choice they’re making why would they question it? I don’t think it’s the children questioning it it’s the adults who want to model them into mini me’s. Just let children be children and grow up innocently and enjoy the things that they should in their early years like life used to be and let them develop naturally. There’s some very disturbing stuff happening at the moment and I don’t like it one bit. I’ve let my kids be themselves and they are pretty well adjusted. I will have the same approach with my future grandkids, with the exception of they are being raised to be glory hunting bastards conversion therapy will take place. Joking aside I’ve got a mate who’s a Tranny his description not mine, and he didn’t make that choice until his 30’s he’s now in his 50’s. |
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Post by Orbs on Jul 27, 2022 8:02:54 GMT
It’s just interesting to hear what others think. I was having a conversation with a mate who was talking about this idea of choice and it threw me really so I wondered if others on here felt the same. Then there’s the difference between gender and sexuality which is often muddied in the LGBTQ+ acronym.
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Post by Orbs on Jul 27, 2022 8:06:18 GMT
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Post by riverman on Jul 27, 2022 8:21:40 GMT
I'm struggling to find the correlation between a cocoon and any racial slur All this nonsense puts me in mind of Toju from Balls of Steel. Great stuff. How prophetic was that? It's happening right now when you've got the likes of Lenny Henry and the BBC et al trying their utmost to find racism,sexism or whatever when it just isn't there. The guy playing Toju is satirising the very same people that Ricky Gervais was brilliantly having a pop at the other week. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2022 8:29:31 GMT
I was watching the tele last night and a woman used the word ‘cocoon’ but the second syllable was beeped over! Is this really where we’re at now?! It's why Kun Ageüro had to retire. |
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Post by noustie on Jul 27, 2022 9:57:55 GMT
That's interesting cheers and from a skim it would be interesting how many parents actually are involved: 13. All schools must have in place a written policy for Relationships Education and RSE. Schools must consult parents in developing and reviewing their policy. Schools should ensure that the policy meets the needs of pupils and parents and reflects the community they serve. There's nothing wrong with what the guidance on page 20 is looking to achieve but the worry for me is it's individual implementation. Also, I think the gender stuff is purposefully conflated by quarters with a vested interest and the outsourcing of the teaching to completely whacky nutjob 'charities' is a massive safeguarding concern. There was that group putting on a family friendly 5+ show that included nude blokes dancing about the place, jokes on wanking and discussion on anal sex who offered teaching as part of their services. Within the guidance too some have taken it to mean drag queen story time in primary schools is orate too which I'd imagine wouldn't be massively popular with a fair chunk of parents. Genuinely I have absolutely no concern if my 7 year old is taught someone can have two mums or two dads so age appropriate the LGB is a peice of piss - we've lesbian neighbours with a daughter so we've already done it anyway. The Q and the T are the issue for me - I wanted to be a pirate at 8 but fortunately my parents didn't support me on a journey of getting an eye and leg removed. On the Q side each to their own but again that should be nowhere near kids especially in primary schools. I've read the guidance up here and it genuinely terrifies and for context risk management is essentially my field with qualifications/ letters and all that bollocks. Primary teachers are told to affirm the kid's gender without the need to tell the parent so my wee lass could be called Dave at school for all I know. Teachers are told too it is up to them if a pupil wants to consider transition whether they tell the parents or a medical professional so again my wee lass could sit with a teacher discussing puberity blockers and binders with nobody knowing. If a girl isn't happy someone with a cock is in their changing room then it is suggested the girl with a fanny is removed. The person with a cock should only be removed if there is a subsequent issue which is like me telling a company they need to put a guard on a machine after someone has lopped a hand off. Just have to look at Stonewall this week saying 2 year olds can recognise they are in the wrong body to realise something ain't right is going on for me. |
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Post by Orbs on Jul 27, 2022 10:20:27 GMT
That's interesting cheers and from a skim it would be interesting how many parents actually are involved: 13. All schools must have in place a written policy for Relationships Education and RSE. Schools must consult parents in developing and reviewing their policy. Schools should ensure that the policy meets the needs of pupils and parents and reflects the community they serve. There's nothing wrong with what the guidance on page 20 is looking to achieve but the worry for me is it's individual implementation. Also, I think the gender stuff is purposefully conflated by quarters with a vested interest and the outsourcing of the teaching to completely whacky nutjob 'charities' is a massive safeguarding concern. There was that group putting on a family friendly 5+ show that included nude blokes dancing about the place, jokes on wanking and discussion on anal sex who offered teaching as part of their services. Within the guidance too some have taken it to mean drag queen story time in primary schools is orate too which I'd imagine wouldn't be massively popular with a fair chunk of parents. Genuinely I have absolutely no concern if my 7 year old is taught someone can have two mums or two dads so age appropriate the LGB is a peice of piss - we've lesbian neighbours with a daughter so we've already done it anyway. The Q and the T are the issue for me - I wanted to be a pirate at 8 but fortunately my parents didn't support me on a journey of getting an eye and leg removed. On the Q side each to their own but again that should be nowhere near kids especially in primary schools. I've read the guidance up here and it genuinely terrifies and for context risk management is essentially my field with qualifications/ letters and all that bollocks. Primary teachers are told to affirm the kid's gender without the need to tell the parent so my wee lass could be called Dave at school for all I know. Teachers are told too it is up to them if a pupil wants to consider transition whether they tell the parents or a medical professional so again my wee lass could sit with a teacher discussing puberity blockers and binders with nobody knowing. If a girl isn't happy someone with a cock is in their changing room then it is suggested the girl with a fanny is removed. The person with a cock should only be removed if there is a subsequent issue which is like me telling a company they need to put a guard on a machine after someone has lopped a hand off. Just have to look at Stonewall this week saying 2 year olds can recognise they are in the wrong body to realise something ain't right is going on for me. It’s difficult to find an argument against anything you’ve said there. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 27, 2022 11:11:47 GMT
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Post by lagwafis on Jul 27, 2022 11:27:33 GMT
vicious bastards  |
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Post by noustie on Jul 27, 2022 11:30:15 GMT
That's interesting cheers and from a skim it would be interesting how many parents actually are involved: 13. All schools must have in place a written policy for Relationships Education and RSE. Schools must consult parents in developing and reviewing their policy. Schools should ensure that the policy meets the needs of pupils and parents and reflects the community they serve. There's nothing wrong with what the guidance on page 20 is looking to achieve but the worry for me is it's individual implementation. Also, I think the gender stuff is purposefully conflated by quarters with a vested interest and the outsourcing of the teaching to completely whacky nutjob 'charities' is a massive safeguarding concern. There was that group putting on a family friendly 5+ show that included nude blokes dancing about the place, jokes on wanking and discussion on anal sex who offered teaching as part of their services. Within the guidance too some have taken it to mean drag queen story time in primary schools is orate too which I'd imagine wouldn't be massively popular with a fair chunk of parents. Genuinely I have absolutely no concern if my 7 year old is taught someone can have two mums or two dads so age appropriate the LGB is a peice of piss - we've lesbian neighbours with a daughter so we've already done it anyway. The Q and the T are the issue for me - I wanted to be a pirate at 8 but fortunately my parents didn't support me on a journey of getting an eye and leg removed. On the Q side each to their own but again that should be nowhere near kids especially in primary schools. I've read the guidance up here and it genuinely terrifies and for context risk management is essentially my field with qualifications/ letters and all that bollocks. Primary teachers are told to affirm the kid's gender without the need to tell the parent so my wee lass could be called Dave at school for all I know. Teachers are told too it is up to them if a pupil wants to consider transition whether they tell the parents or a medical professional so again my wee lass could sit with a teacher discussing puberity blockers and binders with nobody knowing. If a girl isn't happy someone with a cock is in their changing room then it is suggested the girl with a fanny is removed. The person with a cock should only be removed if there is a subsequent issue which is like me telling a company they need to put a guard on a machine after someone has lopped a hand off. Just have to look at Stonewall this week saying 2 year olds can recognise they are in the wrong body to realise something ain't right is going on for me. It’s difficult to find an argument against anything you’ve said there. Slight tangent too but my wee lass last year did a lot of Black History stuff and learnt about Harriet Tubman, MLK etc and also women in general in history like Ada Lovelace. I have no issue with either but swear down she asked me why white men haven't done anything in history - surely for the other two to be correctly taught it needs the context, good and bad, of what white blokes did but she's effectively had the cart before the horse. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2022 12:07:33 GMT
There's a story about a group of parents sabotaging an event where a drag queen reads to children.  I have to say I'm pretty fucking baffled by this phenomenon myself. If men dressed as women or trans women want to teach and interact with children then fair enough. But no female school teacher would dream of wearing anything a fraction as provocative as this dude's garb...and if they did they would be reprimanded. So why the fuck do these guys think it's appropriate/necessary to wear this sort of stuff when acting in an educational role for children as young as 3? And I'm well aware that drag queens are part of pantomime but that's purely entertainment. This isn't. I genuinely don't understand the motivation. If this dude wants to interact with kids then dress like normal female teachers do; conservatively. It's fucking bonkers. But it's a business the guy is running and there's clearly parents signing up to it and thinking it's a good idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2022 12:20:01 GMT
It’s difficult to find an argument against anything you’ve said there. Slight tangent too but my wee lass last year did a lot of Black History stuff and learnt about Harriet Tubman, MLK etc and also women in general in history like Ada Lovelace. I have no issue with either but swear down she asked me why white men haven't done anything in history - surely for the other two to be correctly taught it needs the context, good and bad, of what white blokes did but she's effectively had the cart before the horse. I mean I won't go so far as to start quoting alt right memes, but for your daughter to even ask that shows that the education system is terminally diseased. |
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Post by noustie on Jul 27, 2022 14:15:45 GMT
Slight tangent too but my wee lass last year did a lot of Black History stuff and learnt about Harriet Tubman, MLK etc and also women in general in history like Ada Lovelace. I have no issue with either but swear down she asked me why white men haven't done anything in history - surely for the other two to be correctly taught it needs the context, good and bad, of what white blokes did but she's effectively had the cart before the horse. I mean I won't go so far as to start quoting alt right memes, but for your daughter to even ask that shows that the education system is terminally diseased. Swear down mate - it was even more weird as she is absolutely hoovers up Horrible Histories so there's obviously a conflict in her knowledge where she's hoovering up the information but can't yet analyse it to make structure. She's bright as a button so if she's confused fuck knows what the others think - alternatively she could just have dreams about invading Poland! |
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Jul 27, 2022 14:54:48 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Jul 27, 2022 14:58:52 GMT
All this nonsense puts me in mind of Toju from Balls of Steel. Great stuff. How prophetic was that? It's happening right now when you've got the likes of Lenny Henry and the BBC et al trying their utmost to find racism,sexism or whatever when it just isn't there. The guy playing Toju is satirising the very same people that Ricky Gervais was brilliantly having a pop at the other week. I see The Guardian have been up to their usual race-baiting selves, this time over the lack of diversity in the England Women's team. Clearly, the best squad available has been picked, as evidenced by the results |
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Post by thevoid on Jul 27, 2022 15:07:18 GMT
It’s difficult to find an argument against anything you’ve said there. Slight tangent too but my wee lass last year did a lot of Black History stuff and learnt about Harriet Tubman, MLK etc and also women in general in history like Ada Lovelace. I have no issue with either but swear down she asked me why white men haven't done anything in history - surely for the other two to be correctly taught it needs the context, good and bad, of what white blokes did but she's effectively had the cart before the horse. Any white achievements will simply be brushed aside as the benefits of privilege. You just can't win. |
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Post by noustie on Jul 27, 2022 15:33:03 GMT
Great stuff. How prophetic was that? It's happening right now when you've got the likes of Lenny Henry and the BBC et al trying their utmost to find racism,sexism or whatever when it just isn't there. The guy playing Toju is satirising the very same people that Ricky Gervais was brilliantly having a pop at the other week. I see The Guardian have been up to their usual race-baiting selves, this time over the lack of diversity in the England Women's team. Clearly, the best squad available has been picked, as evidenced by the results Wild really when their own article a month back has photos of the squad - there's 3 included in there that must be on the bench. www.theguardian.com/football/gallery/2022/jun/15/england-women-squad-for-euro-2022-sarina-wiegman-final-23-in-pictures If the argument is there isn't enough coming through in future generations then they've maybe got a point but that would be the fault of the accademy set-up. As a fat white bloke I posted 16.9 seconds on the second leg of the trial to be in mens 4X100 metre relay team but was subsequently DQF for passing a footlong Subway rather than a batton as got my hands mixed up unfortunately. |
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Post by Orbs on Jul 27, 2022 15:52:14 GMT
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Post by noustie on Jul 28, 2022 12:27:47 GMT
Tavistock being shut down finally thank fuck as Cass Review found it unsafe for children - more 'holistic response' proposed for future rather than giving kids puberty blockers like they were sweeties.
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Post by Northy on Jul 28, 2022 16:18:34 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 28, 2022 17:30:46 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 28, 2022 17:33:02 GMT
The man from Del Monte’s best days clearly behind him |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 29, 2022 13:27:32 GMT
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Post by hoffgreen on Jul 29, 2022 15:51:19 GMT
Watched Trump the other day speak for over 2hrs, never missed a word, completely coherent and on point. Watching these nut jobs in this present administration is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Incoherent, mumbling word salad. Cackling Harris, drunk Nancy, childish waitress AOC and dementia uncle Joe. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. USA is fubared with this clown show running it. |
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Post by felonious on Jul 29, 2022 18:31:02 GMT
Watched Trump the other day speak for over 2hrs, never missed a word, completely coherent and on point. Watching these nut jobs in this present administration is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Incoherent, mumbling word salad. Cackling Harris, drunk Nancy, childish waitress AOC and dementia uncle Joe. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. USA is fubared with this clown show running it. This world is totally fugazi  |
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Post by noustie on Jul 30, 2022 7:39:05 GMT
Ten minutes on why Tavistock unit needed shut down.
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Post by yeokel on Jul 30, 2022 8:05:39 GMT
Watched Trump the other day speak for over 2hrs, never missed a word, completely coherent and on point. Watching these nut jobs in this present administration is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Incoherent, mumbling word salad. Cackling Harris, drunk Nancy, childish waitress AOC and dementia uncle Joe. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. USA is fubared with this clown show running it. Surely that’s fake isn’t it? (Am I setting myself up for a ‘whoosh’ here?) |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 30, 2022 8:19:49 GMT
Surely that’s fake isn’t it? The music has been added for comical effect but the clip is genuine. |
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 30, 2022 8:41:44 GMT
Watched Trump the other day speak for over 2hrs, never missed a word, completely coherent and on point. Watching these nut jobs in this present administration is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Incoherent, mumbling word salad. Cackling Harris, drunk Nancy, childish waitress AOC and dementia uncle Joe. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. USA is fubared with this clown show running it. This world is totally fugazi The impact of the media single-handedly getting Byden in. I’m no fan of Trump but there was a hell of a lot of bias reporting done pre election. Now they’ve got what they want and just look at what a shambles they are. China must be laughing there socks off. Can anyone honestly say that the States are in a better place post Trump. Not from what I’m seeing. |
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Post by felonious on Jul 30, 2022 12:14:00 GMT
Watched Trump the other day speak for over 2hrs, never missed a word, completely coherent and on point. Watching these nut jobs in this present administration is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Incoherent, mumbling word salad. Cackling Harris, drunk Nancy, childish waitress AOC and dementia uncle Joe. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. USA is fubared with this clown show running it. Surely that’s fake isn’t it? (Am I setting myself up for a ‘whoosh’ here?) It's mind blowing that it's now a thought that comes into your head when you listen to these half wits in charge of the "free" world which we're all paying through the nose for |
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