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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2022 16:52:31 GMT
It will no doubt change another half a dozen times before the World Cup but I think my batting line up currently would be: Buttler Hales Duckett Brook Stokes Moeen/Livingston As for bowling God only knows!! Buttler Hales Malan Livingstone/Stokes Brook Moeen Billings (w) Jordan/Curran M.Wood Rashid Topley
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Post by wuzza on Sept 23, 2022 17:10:20 GMT
I’m Red Rose through and through but you have to say that the Yorkies , first with Root and now with Brook, have provided two batsmen of the highest quality in any format of the game.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2022 17:13:40 GMT
WTF we’re playing today? As we speak? I had no idea🤦🏻♂️ Looks like this one’s in the bag🤐
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Post by stokeuk474 on Sept 23, 2022 18:55:58 GMT
I’m Red Rose through and through but you have to say that the Yorkies , first with Root and now with Brook, have provided two batsmen of the highest quality in any format of the game. Agreed. I'm Red Rose too, but on the flipside you have to say Lancs have produced the finest fast bowler ever to play, and he's still going 🌹
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 23, 2022 19:21:29 GMT
Genuine PACE. Was great to see.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2022 19:33:36 GMT
Genuine PACE. Was great to see. Wood clocked 97.5 mph twice. His pace was a huge difference and Topley has to play. He’s been superb in short form for the last 12 months. Fingers crossed we don’t over play them in this series and keep them in cotton wool for the World Cup.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 23, 2022 20:23:29 GMT
He’s the best spinner we’ve had since Swann. I’d happily have him as the lone spin option if needed with 4 quicks being picked. He’s very inconsistent though and for me not capable of bowling long spells. If he did how would that impact on his batting. It’s a shame Moeen Ali’s retired as he always looked capable of getting a decent score though not consistently. He is but that’s with (you’d imagine) hardly any work on his bowling. Leach doesn’t tend to affect matches in England. Root is far more dangerous.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 23, 2022 20:24:47 GMT
I don’t think we would. And so? If Crawley had scored one 2 ago he still should be nowhere near this side. So you don’t think Foakes would save more than 5 runs in the field against the part time keeping of Duckett for example? (Bairstow is injured so it’s irrelevant). In tough conditions that may spin massively and when the ball is keeping really low, seriously? We can’t afford to play a Gilchrist type number 7 with what’s currently below him in the order, if you picked Moeen as your front line spinner and put him in at 8 then maybe so but that’s not going to happen…. Duckett has showed he plays spin excellently and would add more runs with the bat.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2022 20:36:29 GMT
So you don’t think Foakes would save more than 5 runs in the field against the part time keeping of Duckett for example? (Bairstow is injured so it’s irrelevant). In tough conditions that may spin massively and when the ball is keeping really low, seriously? We can’t afford to play a Gilchrist type number 7 with what’s currently below him in the order, if you picked Moeen as your front line spinner and put him in at 8 then maybe so but that’s not going to happen…. Duckett has showed he plays spin excellently and would add more runs with the bat. Duckett would have been useful in the Pakistan test series as would Jennings. But there is a team thing going on where players are picked on reputation rather than their strengths. TBF every team does that
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 23, 2022 20:38:49 GMT
Duckett has showed he plays spin excellently and would add more runs with the bat. Duckett would have been useful in the Pakistan test series as would Jennings. But there is a team thing going on where players are picked on reputation rather than their strengths. TBF every team does that The Test touring party hasn’t been picked yet has it? With his first class scores and how good he looks against spin he stands a chance of being in the touring party surely? Him and Harry Brook as the two back up batsmen? Him back up keeper?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2022 20:41:11 GMT
Duckett would have been useful in the Pakistan test series as would Jennings. But there is a team thing going on where players are picked on reputation rather than their strengths. TBF every team does that The Test touring party hasn’t been picked yet has it? With his first class scores and how good he looks against spin he stands a chance of being in the touring party surely? Him and Harry Brook as the two back up batsmen? Him back up keeper? Duckett won’t be picked, no doubt about it. Brook will go, looks like Root reincarnate
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 23, 2022 20:44:03 GMT
So you don’t think Foakes would save more than 5 runs in the field against the part time keeping of Duckett for example? (Bairstow is injured so it’s irrelevant). In tough conditions that may spin massively and when the ball is keeping really low, seriously? We can’t afford to play a Gilchrist type number 7 with what’s currently below him in the order, if you picked Moeen as your front line spinner and put him in at 8 then maybe so but that’s not going to happen…. Duckett has showed he plays spin excellently and would add more runs with the bat. I’m on about keeping against spin not batting against it…….
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 23, 2022 20:44:55 GMT
The Test touring party hasn’t been picked yet has it? With his first class scores and how good he looks against spin he stands a chance of being in the touring party surely? Him and Harry Brook as the two back up batsmen? Him back up keeper? Duckett won’t be picked, no doubt about it. Brook will go, looks like Root reincarnate Why not? You need a squad. He’s young, has a good first class average, had a good season with a 1000 runs at 70. He stands an excellent chance surely?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 23, 2022 20:46:00 GMT
Duckett has showed he plays spin excellently and would add more runs with the bat. I’m on about keeping against spin not batting against it……. I know and I think his batting and the runs he’d get far outweigh the keeping.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 23, 2022 20:50:25 GMT
I’m on about keeping against spin not batting against it……. I know and I think his batting and the runs he’d get far outweigh the keeping. We’ll his first class average is only slightly better than Foakes’ despite batting higher up the order, and in his 4 test matches so far he averages 15. They’re not even having him keeping in the T20 tour of Pakistan so he certainly won’t be doing it in the test series…..
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2022 20:51:14 GMT
Duckett won’t be picked, no doubt about it. Brook will go, looks like Root reincarnate Why not? You need a squad. He’s young, has a good first class average, had a good season with a 1000 runs at 70. He stands an excellent chance surely? I think he should be picked, I’m saying I don’t think the selectors will pick him. Certainly not as a back up WK. There’s time yet, he’s improved massively since he first played in the test side but it’s a congested department is the middle order. I don’t think they’ll find room tbh
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2022 20:52:58 GMT
I know and I think his batting and the runs he’d get far outweigh the keeping. We’ll his first class average is only slightly better than Foakes’ despite batting higher up the order, and in his 4 test matches so far he averages 15. They’re not even having him keeping in the T20 tour of Pakistan so he certainly won’t be doing it in the test series….. He would come in solely as a batsmen and he’s down the pecking order in that regard. But he’s doing himself no harm at the moment.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 23, 2022 20:57:12 GMT
We’ll his first class average is only slightly better than Foakes’ despite batting higher up the order, and in his 4 test matches so far he averages 15. They’re not even having him keeping in the T20 tour of Pakistan so he certainly won’t be doing it in the test series….. He would come in solely as a batsmen and he’s down the pecking order in that regard. But he’s doing himself no harm at the moment. He’s should definitely be part of the white ball squads, but not the test squad…..
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2022 21:05:06 GMT
He would come in solely as a batsmen and he’s down the pecking order in that regard. But he’s doing himself no harm at the moment. He’s should definitely be part of the white ball squads, but not the test squad….. Remember we tried him in India was it when he was young? He looks much better now but as you say, the test side is a while away yet. What’s happened to Lawrence?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 24, 2022 7:07:49 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2022 8:47:04 GMT
So maximum of around 80 days Including around 30% sat around having or waiting to bat Probably another five odd percent wait for our glorious summer to stop raining Doesn’t seem to me a to arduous way to make a living
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 24, 2022 9:27:50 GMT
So maximum of around 80 days Including around 30% sat around having or waiting to bat Probably another five odd percent wait for our glorious summer to stop raining Doesn’t seem to me a to arduous way to make a living Exactly mate and they playing too much cricket apparently 🤔🙄
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Post by stokeuk474 on Sept 24, 2022 22:00:21 GMT
Well what an end to the domestic international calendar today. Did anyone see the Mankad in the women's game?
Personally I'd never seen one before this, but I don't like it.
I'd been listening to the game whilst working today and despite bowling well, it looked like India were on course for another victory. England only had 1 wicket left but Charlie Dean and Freya Davies were battling hard and taking the game as deep as possible. I turned off when they needed about 50 off 110 balls.
It feels like the Indians were struggling to break this last partnership and England were going to sneak home as they still had plenty of balls left.
Thoughts?
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Post by professorplump on Sept 24, 2022 23:33:06 GMT
Well what an end to the domestic international calendar today. Did anyone see the Mankad in the women's game? Personally I'd never seen one before this, but I don't like it. I'd been listening to the game whilst working today and despite bowling well, it looked like India were on course for another victory. England only had 1 wicket left but Charlie Dean and Freya Davies were battling hard and taking the game as deep as possible. I turned off when they needed about 50 off 110 balls. It feels like the Indians were struggling to break this last partnership and England were going to sneak home as they still had plenty of balls left. Thoughts? I saw it earlier. Technically the bowler is entitled to do this and there is no doubt that sometimes the non-striker will pinch a couple of yards giving them an unfair advantage. However, it didn't sit right with me. It always used to be that a bowler would give a warning to a batter first. It also looked to me that Dean still had her bat in the crease at the time the ball was due to be bowled and then moved forward out of her ground not expecting the bowler to stop. I think if this had happened in a men's game there would have been a much bigger reaction. I just felt it was a sad way to end a game that was bubbling up to a close finish.
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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 25, 2022 6:22:58 GMT
Well what an end to the domestic international calendar today. Did anyone see the Mankad in the women's game? Personally I'd never seen one before this, but I don't like it. I'd been listening to the game whilst working today and despite bowling well, it looked like India were on course for another victory. England only had 1 wicket left but Charlie Dean and Freya Davies were battling hard and taking the game as deep as possible. I turned off when they needed about 50 off 110 balls. It feels like the Indians were struggling to break this last partnership and England were going to sneak home as they still had plenty of balls left. Thoughts? Very poor from the Indians. If you freeze the point when the bowlers front foot has landed and is about to release the ball Charlie Dean is still in her crease. The bowler then goes into slow motion and allows Dean to walk out of the crease before pulling out of her action and whipping the bails off. No warning given and a very sour ending to what was shaping up to be an exciting finish.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 25, 2022 7:09:07 GMT
Well what an end to the domestic international calendar today. Did anyone see the Mankad in the women's game? Personally I'd never seen one before this, but I don't like it. I'd been listening to the game whilst working today and despite bowling well, it looked like India were on course for another victory. England only had 1 wicket left but Charlie Dean and Freya Davies were battling hard and taking the game as deep as possible. I turned off when they needed about 50 off 110 balls. It feels like the Indians were struggling to break this last partnership and England were going to sneak home as they still had plenty of balls left. Thoughts? Very poor from the Indians. If you freeze the point when the bowlers front foot has landed and is about to release the ball Charlie Dean is still in her crease. The bowler then goes into slow motion and allows Dean to walk out of the crease before pulling out of her action and whipping the bails off. No warning given and a very sour ending to what was shaping up to be an exciting finish. It’s certainly caused an uproar on social media. It’s one of those where unless you’re from the team that benefit you’re going to have an issue with it. Legal yes in the spirit of the game no. I just hope it doesn’t start a load of copy cat incidents. Fair enough if the batsman’s doing it to gain an advantage but this wasn’t the case here. Imagine if it was India v Pakistan the consequences would have been huge. I thought the England ladies conduct was commendable under the circumstances not sure the men would have taken it so well.
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Post by werrington on Sept 25, 2022 7:20:38 GMT
Very poor from the Indians. If you freeze the point when the bowlers front foot has landed and is about to release the ball Charlie Dean is still in her crease. The bowler then goes into slow motion and allows Dean to walk out of the crease before pulling out of her action and whipping the bails off. No warning given and a very sour ending to what was shaping up to be an exciting finish. It’s certainly caused an uproar on social media. It’s one of those where unless you’re from the team that benefit you’re going to have an issue with it. Legal yes in the spirit of the game no. I just hope it doesn’t start a load of copy cat incidents. Fair enough if the batsman’s doing it to gain an advantage but this wasn’t the case here. Imagine if it was India v Pakistan the consequences would have been huge. I thought the England ladies conduct was commendable under the circumstances not sure the men would have taken it so well. They should of refused to shake hands and walked off back to the England changing rooms It’s an entertainment business and people had spent good money on a days cricket that was heading towards an exciting climax only for them to do that and let’s cut to the chase, it was pre determined Every cricket match would be over in 30 mins if thems the rules they want to play by ……And to think England gave a guard of honour to one of them not 3 hours earlier In a word fuck em and I hope it comes back to haunt them.
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Post by werrington on Sept 25, 2022 7:23:58 GMT
The womens game is desperate to get recognition in the wider world and then this happens when people have spent good money to watch it
They should be ashamed of themselves and potentially set it back
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 25, 2022 7:54:21 GMT
The womenswear game is desperate to get recognition in the wider world and then this happens when people have spent good money to watch it They should be ashamed of themselves and potentially set it back From the reaction of the crowd, winning in the spirit of the game appeared to be secondary to the result. Poor old Stuart Broad is getting pelted on social media where the Indian fans are comparing the ball hitting Stokes bat and going for 4 and winnings on boundaries to yesterdays actions. They’re not even comparable as yesterdays was a deliberate act whereas Stokes’s was a clear accident. I’d love it if someone ran out Kohli in that way and see if they were still as accepting of it.
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Post by werrington on Sept 25, 2022 7:57:22 GMT
The womenswear game is desperate to get recognition in the wider world and then this happens when people have spent good money to watch it They should be ashamed of themselves and potentially set it back From the reaction of the crowd, winning in the spirit of the game appeared to be secondary to the result. Poor old Stuart Broad is getting pelted on social media where the Indian fans are comparing the ball hitting Stokes bat and going for 4 and winnings on boundaries to yesterdays actions. They’re not even comparable as yesterdays was a deliberate act whereas Stokes’s was a clear accident. I’d love it if someone ran out Kohli in that way and see if they were still as accepting of it. Well put it this way mate The gloves are off
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