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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 30, 2022 16:20:34 GMT
All this "Baz" and "Bazball" nonsense really makes me cringe 🤣
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 30, 2022 16:55:12 GMT
I see Sibley has returned to Surrey. That'll be him firmly back in England contention again. Fair play to him if he moved for those reasons. Cynical, but spot on. Surely the antithesis of Bazball? Yes, you'd think so, wouldn't you! I've seen him smack it around like anyone else though, so he's perfectly capable. I think previously, in the Burns/Hales days, we were crying out for someone to just stay in for the first 20 overs or so, so he may well have been trying to provide that. Still room for that I think, we don't have to be 75 for 4 every Test match and for matches to finish by tea on day three!
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Post by chuckrocky on Jun 30, 2022 19:55:48 GMT
Looking forward to the India test starting tomorrow. Managed to get a ticket for tomorrow so hopefully the rain stays away. No Rohit or Rahul for India who will be captained by Bumrah.
I can’t see anything other than an England victory unless the weather plays a part.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 1, 2022 9:05:32 GMT
England win the toss and will bowl.......
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 1, 2022 10:21:47 GMT
England win the toss and will bowl....... Is this Brave Ben or Bampot Ben? He got away with it in the second test against New Zealand (eventually); we’ll discover which Ben at some point over the coming days.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 1, 2022 10:36:36 GMT
England win the toss and will bowl....... Is this Brave Ben or Bampot Ben? He got away with it in the second test against New Zealand (eventually); we’ll discover which Ben at some point over the coming days. Unless conditions are a swing bowlers paradise I always lean towards batting first, I think they will regret this decision as we can't keep getting out of jail but I hope I'm wrong.......
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jul 1, 2022 11:05:49 GMT
Is this Brave Ben or Bampot Ben? He got away with it in the second test against New Zealand (eventually); we’ll discover which Ben at some point over the coming days. Unless conditions are a swing bowlers paradise I always lean towards batting first, I think they will regret this decision as we can't keep getting out of jail but I hope I'm wrong....... I agree with you. The first session is always the toughest as in England there's always a bit of nip on a fresh pitch with a new ball. 50-2 so a good start for us, but if India can get through to lunch they will cash in as this pitch will get better for batting. I just think we've taken that mentality of being able to chase whatever is set for us, in a one-day style. I suppose if McCullum needed to do anything, it was to get the test players just to look at how the white ball players have successfully chased, and that they can go out and do exactly the same.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 1, 2022 11:16:34 GMT
Is this Brave Ben or Bampot Ben? He got away with it in the second test against New Zealand (eventually); we’ll discover which Ben at some point over the coming days. Unless conditions are a swing bowlers paradise I always lean towards batting first, I think they will regret this decision as we can't keep getting out of jail but I hope I'm wrong....... Stokes’ strategy puts me in mind of a roulette player who decides he will always bet on red and even, and when red and even comes up three times in a row concludes his strategy is a good one and bets once again on red and even.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 1, 2022 13:26:47 GMT
Early days I know but I think we could be looking at Anderson's successor in young Potts, really impressed by him........
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 1, 2022 13:56:26 GMT
Is this Brave Ben or Bampot Ben? He got away with it in the second test against New Zealand (eventually); we’ll discover which Ben at some point over the coming days. Unless conditions are a swing bowlers paradise I always lean towards batting first, I think they will regret this decision as we can't keep getting out of jail but I hope I'm wrong....... Looks like it’s Fortune Favours The Brave! 98-5 You can’t ask for more from an insertion; half the ops dismissed and not yet into 3 figures.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jul 1, 2022 14:33:57 GMT
I can't help but think Anderson and Broad are being flogged here. They have bowled a lot of overs so far. Why is Stokes so reluctant to bowl himself? Even if it's just 3 or 4 overs, he can give one of the others a break and do the bowlers a favour.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 1, 2022 15:16:04 GMT
I can't help but think Anderson and Broad are being flogged here. They have bowled a lot of overs so far. Why is Stokes so reluctant to bowl himself? Even if it's just 3 or 4 overs, he can give one of the others a break and do the bowlers a favour. That’s curious. But so was his decision to bring on Leech at the fall of the 5th wicket to bowl at two left handers on two counts - the ball was seaming around so why move to spin and a leftie against left handers on day 1 is asking an awful lot. Not impressed.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 1, 2022 15:28:03 GMT
A carbon copy of the New Zealand series so far, dismiss their top order cheaply but given away the initiative with some questionable tactics to their middle order.
Stokes is clearly reluctant to bowl himself and you can see why, can’t find any rhythm and bowling no balls every over.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 1, 2022 16:46:59 GMT
Unless conditions are a swing bowlers paradise I always lean towards batting first, I think they will regret this decision as we can't keep getting out of jail but I hope I'm wrong....... Looks like it’s Fortune Favours The Brave! 98-5 You can’t ask for more from an insertion; half the ops dismissed and not yet into 3 figures. If India get more than 350 1st innings I think we’ll struggle, New Zealand didn’t have the spin option of India and I can’t see them making the same mistakes when I’m the ascendancy…….
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jul 1, 2022 16:59:35 GMT
England unravelling now. They needed to keep the pressure on, but now that two batters have got in, we can't keep a lid on the scoring. Leach can't hold an end, Stokes reluctant to bowl and when he does, looks awful.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 1, 2022 17:12:04 GMT
Looks like it’s Fortune Favours The Brave! 98-5 You can’t ask for more from an insertion; half the ops dismissed and not yet into 3 figures. If India get more than 350 1st innings I think we’ll struggle, Nee Zealand didn’t have the spin option of India and I can’t see them making the same mistakes when I’m the ascendancy……. I’m revising my assessment… looking much more like Ben the Bam. In particular relating to his decision to bowl Leach when he did.
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 1, 2022 17:56:22 GMT
Unless conditions are a swing bowlers paradise I always lean towards batting first, I think they will regret this decision as we can't keep getting out of jail but I hope I'm wrong....... Looks like it’s Fortune Favours The Brave! 98-5 You can’t ask for more from an insertion; half the ops dismissed and not yet into 3 figures. This post clearly jinxed it for England 😡
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 1, 2022 18:17:35 GMT
Looks like it’s Fortune Favours The Brave! 98-5 You can’t ask for more from an insertion; half the ops dismissed and not yet into 3 figures. This post clearly jinxed it for England 😡 Sorry! But I think Stokes had a bigger impact. Using Leach against two left handers fresh at the crease at a time when the ball was spinning was stupid. If he really wanted to try something different (although there was no need) he should have tried Joe Root instead of Lynch. Likewise when Pant was going hard, he should have gone defensive and looked to stifle Pant. As it is, he repeated the mistakes of New Zealand in that post tea session on the final day in the second test when Bairstow was on the charge by sticking with the wrong approach. Stokes might usefully pick up his Gideon bible in his hotel room this evening and consult Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8 for some sage words.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 1, 2022 22:09:26 GMT
This is not funny.
Stop sniggering at the back.
This is NOT funny.
Show some respect.
Please.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 2, 2022 10:21:24 GMT
This has been absolute garbage from England this morning.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 2, 2022 10:25:28 GMT
Broad should just retire after this over.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 2, 2022 10:26:01 GMT
35 runs from Broad's over against Bumrah, he should be embarrassed.
England's tactics and execution against the tail are a major concern, we just allow teams to regularly score more runs than they should........
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 2, 2022 10:27:36 GMT
This has been absolute garbage from England this morning. This over from Broad is hilarious. The most runs ever conceded in a test match… 35 The most ever conceded of a single ball… 17 of the first ball. Maybe appalling is a better word. But I was laughing throughout.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 2, 2022 10:29:29 GMT
The definition of village cricket. Absolutely embarrassing stuff from Broad.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 2, 2022 10:29:38 GMT
This has been absolute garbage from England this morning. This over from Broad is hilarious. The most runs ever conceded in a test match… 35 The most ever conceded of a single ball… 17 of the first ball. Maybe appalling is a better word. But I was laughing throughout. It beggars belief how someone so experienced can bowl such a shocking over. Had been smashed for 36 and didn’t bowl a yorker until the last ball.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 2, 2022 10:32:10 GMT
Not watching, how on earth did he manage 17 off the first ball!?
Three no balls or something?
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 2, 2022 10:34:33 GMT
This over from Broad is hilarious. The most runs ever conceded in a test match… 35 The most ever conceded of a single ball… 17 of the first ball. Maybe appalling is a better word. But I was laughing throughout. It beggars belief how someone so experienced can bowl such a shocking over. Had been smashed for 36 and didn’t bowl a yorker until the last ball. From the sublime to the ridiculous His 16th over he picks up his 550th test wicket… a sensational achievement His 26th over goes for 35 runs… another sensational achievement; the worst over in the history of cricket You have to laugh!
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 2, 2022 10:40:35 GMT
Not watching, how on earth did he manage 17 off the first ball!? Three no balls or something? Sorry, a wee error there It was 16 of the second ball as follows… A wide that went for 4… 5 runs A no ball that went for 6… 7 runs Next ball went for 4… 4 runs That eventual legal 2nd ball should have been given as a no ball because it was a full pitch over waist height. That delivery could have been even more expensive.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 2, 2022 10:43:25 GMT
We start with two openers who have everything to prove!
India will smell blood from the off.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 2, 2022 10:46:38 GMT
Not watching, how on earth did he manage 17 off the first ball!? Three no balls or something? Sorry, a wee error there It was 16 of the second ball as follows… A wide that went for 4… 5 runs A no ball that went for 6… 7 runs Next ball went for 4… 4 runs That eventual legal 2nd ball should have been given as a no ball because it was a full pitch over waist height. That delivery could have been even more expensive. I don't think that over will be featuring in any 'How to bowl with the new ball' tutorial videos somehow!
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