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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 27, 2022 12:56:05 GMT
Pope castled...but can't see this taking too long. How is it prestwichpotter?
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Post by AlliG on Jun 27, 2022 13:43:22 GMT
If any of the serious commentators on cricket had said that we were going to win this series 3-0 a month ago, I would have thought they were nuts.
It is amazing that with the change of approach, chasing 300 in the last innings has seemed a reasonable target rather than 100 too many.
It has been a really enjoyable series to watch with plenty of ups and downs and the balance of power moving from team to team throughout the games.
It will be interesting to see how this "new" England fares against India on Friday.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 27, 2022 13:44:10 GMT
Pope castled...but can't see this taking too long. How is it prestwichpotter? Literally back at the car now mate it wasn’t much longer than a lunch break!! Even with the early wicket it always felt like it was going to be a procession…..
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 27, 2022 13:46:07 GMT
Another superb run chase.
I was about to ask when England last chased down scores of 250+ in the final innings of 3 successive tests, but I just heard that it has never been done before. Which is no surprise.
What an astonishing series this has been.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 27, 2022 13:47:47 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 27, 2022 14:20:01 GMT
This series really has a feeling of England beating Germany 5-1 to kick-start Eriksson's reign. An absolute world apart from the winter, much like Munich was a world apart from the 1-0 defeat at Wembley.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 27, 2022 14:25:02 GMT
This series really has a feeling of England beating Germany 5-1 to kick-start Eriksson's reign. An absolute world apart from the winter, much like Munich was a world apart from the 1-0 defeat at Wembley. Yes, although the golden generation singularly failed to deliver after that! Let's hope our cricketing eleven keep up the good work. I do like to see sides playing without fear - it makes such a difference and is so attractive to watch. England did really well in getting after their part-time spinner. Bracewell ended the tour with figures of 47.4-2-285-5, that's almost six an over!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 14:46:45 GMT
Outstanding stuff, all 3 tests were a joy to watch. Seat of the pants stuff at times but that's what made it so enjoyable. I'm loving this new positivity!
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Post by lordb on Jun 27, 2022 18:46:09 GMT
Another superb run chase. I was about to ask when England last chased down scores of 250+ in the final innings of 3 successive tests, but I just heard that it has never been done before. Which is no surprise. What an astonishing series this has been. Has to put doubt now in any teams mind when playing England as well as belief in ours
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 27, 2022 19:09:15 GMT
Another superb run chase. I was about to ask when England last chased down scores of 250+ in the final innings of 3 successive tests, but I just heard that it has never been done before. Which is no surprise. What an astonishing series this has been. Has to put doubt now in any teams mind when playing England as well as belief in ours That’s a great point Lord, teams won’t want to be giving us the slightest sniff of a chance. That’ll do out win/loss/draw ratio the world of good. The only dampener is Crawley, Lees hasn’t made any big scores but he’s looked pretty solid and got out to some cracking deliveries so I’d persevere for now. I’d be happy with someone who can just take the shine off the new ball and bat 30 overs for 30 odd letting our flair plays licence to play positively
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Post by professorplump on Jun 27, 2022 22:41:40 GMT
A very enjoyable series and NZ will feel that they could have won 3-0 as all three matches fluctuated back and forth. India next and I think we can beat them as they have only had one warm up match so will be a bit underdone, although their spinners will be harder to hit than Bracewell. Billings will stay with the squad as cover for Foakes. Anderson will come back if fit which will mean one out of Broad or Overton will probably make way.
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Post by professorplump on Jun 27, 2022 22:53:05 GMT
It’s the decision making too, we’d have settled for draws in previous years after the opposition putting 500 on the board, and we’d likely have tried to slow the game down massively and grind out the runs after losing a handful of early wickets - but the attitude has changed now. Stokes has also been confident to bring the spinners in early which isn’t something we often saw in the past. We are playing to our strengths rather than playing test cricket the traditional way, it might have been a different story had Jamieson been fit and NZ had a better spinner then Bracewell, but we’re missing some bowlers too I guess. NZ will feel hard done by, cracking series though. 12 months ago, Kane Williamson set England a target of 273 of 75 overs. Joe Root turned it down. As his predecessor, Cook, had done on similar occasions. As Strauss did before him. We finished day 5 on 170-3 with Dom Sibley not out on 60 from 207 deliveries. We then got wiped out in the next test. What I find astonishing isn’t Stokes’ captaincy. By and large he’s doing what you would expect any captain to do. But it’s the appalling defensive captaincy of his predecessors which was allowed to continue unchecked. Despite us seeing what benefits positive captaincy brought to our white ball game. I’m hoping Stokes keeps this in mind. He doesn’t need to be ultra aggressive. Just positive. I more or less agree with you but I think you are being hard on Andrew Strauss. Under his captaincy, we won the Ashes in Australia and rose to be No.1 in the rankings. In those days we had a batting line up of solid accumulators like Strauss, Cook, Trott and Collingwood. Only Kevin Pietersen and possibly Ian Bell would have had the game to play in the style we are playing now.
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Post by professorplump on Jun 28, 2022 16:54:53 GMT
Eoin Morgan has confirmed his retirement today. Quite sad really but it is the right time for him to go. His legacy will be the complete transformation of our white ball game. I suspect in the short term he will be snapped up by Sky or another broadcaster. In the longer term I could see him coaching one of the England teams.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 28, 2022 17:00:34 GMT
Eoin Morgan has confirmed his retirement today. Quite sad really but it is the right time for him to go. His legacy will be the complete transformation of our white ball game. I suspect in the short term he will be snapped up by Sky or another broadcaster. In the longer term I could see him coaching one of the England teams. Can see him going straight into coaching in IPL
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 28, 2022 18:33:53 GMT
Just checked out the Fantasy league and I’ve climbed 2 places so far this week. Next victim, none other than Prestwichpotter🎣
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 30, 2022 9:57:07 GMT
12 months ago, Kane Williamson set England a target of 273 of 75 overs. Joe Root turned it down. As his predecessor, Cook, had done on similar occasions. As Strauss did before him. We finished day 5 on 170-3 with Dom Sibley not out on 60 from 207 deliveries. We then got wiped out in the next test. What I find astonishing isn’t Stokes’ captaincy. By and large he’s doing what you would expect any captain to do. But it’s the appalling defensive captaincy of his predecessors which was allowed to continue unchecked. Despite us seeing what benefits positive captaincy brought to our white ball game. I’m hoping Stokes keeps this in mind. He doesn’t need to be ultra aggressive. Just positive. I more or less agree with you but I think you are being hard on Andrew Strauss. Under his captaincy, we won the Ashes in Australia and rose to be No.1 in the rankings. In those days we had a batting line up of solid accumulators like Strauss, Cook, Trott and Collingwood. Only Kevin Pietersen and possibly Ian Bell would have had the game to play in the style we are playing now. Strauss certainly was quite a successful captain, and was blessed with a pretty good team. My comment was about his style of captaincy. He was, like Cook and Root, ultra cautious; delaying declarations, declining run chases, defensive fields. He set the template that both Cook and Root followed. His approach was a significant shift from Vaughan who was an attacking captain; it’s no coincidence that our run rate in the test series just finished was the fastest since Vaughan was captain. I suspect Strauss’s style of captaincy was influenced by the short term chaotic reign of KP meaning he wanted to steady a shaky ship and his traumatic experience in his first test as captain when his team was blasted out for 51 in the second innings of the 1st test in Kingston. Of course, since then we’ve had countless humiliations with our batting, but that performance was sort of special at the time. But for Strauss, I think, he discovered there was something worse than losing: humiliation. So losing or not winning weren’t his worst case scenario, and this came out in his captaincy.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 30, 2022 10:00:13 GMT
Eoin Morgan has confirmed his retirement today. Quite sad really but it is the right time for him to go. His legacy will be the complete transformation of our white ball game. I suspect in the short term he will be snapped up by Sky or another broadcaster. In the longer term I could see him coaching one of the England teams. Is this the best retirement ever? Get out before your legacy is tarnished by poor performances. And he was true to his word. He put the team good before personal glory. One of the greatest ever men in English cricket. He transformed our white ball cricket from no hopers to the best in the world. Thanks for everything you’ve given us Eoin.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 30, 2022 10:04:44 GMT
Just checked out the Fantasy league and I’ve climbed 2 places so far this week. Next victim, none other than Prestwichpotter🎣 It’s bloody frustrating the county championship fantasy league, in that you pick players you think should be playing who then don’t turn up. Nil points. That said, it means I’m keeping an eye on the County game in a way I haven’t done for years. I just need to remember to update my team (and then hope they all turn up) to try and field a team of 11 players as opposed to just 9 this week.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 30, 2022 13:00:12 GMT
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 30, 2022 13:06:08 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61994867England have made two changes from the seven-wicket win over New Zealand at Headingley, with pace bowler James Anderson replacing Jamie Overton and wicketkeeper Sam Billings - who was a Covid replacement for Ben Foakes during the third Test - keeping the gloves.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 30, 2022 14:50:23 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 30, 2022 14:56:18 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61994867England have made two changes from the seven-wicket win over New Zealand at Headingley, with pace bowler James Anderson replacing Jamie Overton and wicketkeeper Sam Billings - who was a Covid replacement for Ben Foakes during the third Test - keeping the gloves. You have to think this is a huge game for Crawley. Otherwise a spot on selection based on the NZ series
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 30, 2022 15:08:34 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61994867England have made two changes from the seven-wicket win over New Zealand at Headingley, with pace bowler James Anderson replacing Jamie Overton and wicketkeeper Sam Billings - who was a Covid replacement for Ben Foakes during the third Test - keeping the gloves. You have to think this is a huge game for Crawley. Otherwise a spot on selection based on the NZ series A long wait between this India test, which concludes July 5, and the 1st test against South Africa which begins August 17. Plenty of thinking time for our selectors. And there is much for them to think off, albeit a little less than a few weeks back in that our spinner selection is resolved for a while at least in Leach likewise the number 3 spot with Pope. Still questions about both openers, albeit one more acute than the other. And we need to figure out what to do with Broad and Anderson; are really going to plan to play them in every test? And, lastly, do we need to find a way to stiffen our tail. If Anderson had been fit you’d imagine the second test would have progressed very differently. Anyway, bugger all that for now. Looking forward to a good test kicking off tomorrow.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 30, 2022 15:08:50 GMT
Anyone listen to Baz after the last match? he's either a massive fan of Crawley or a top bullshitter.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 30, 2022 15:08:55 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61994867England have made two changes from the seven-wicket win over New Zealand at Headingley, with pace bowler James Anderson replacing Jamie Overton and wicketkeeper Sam Billings - who was a Covid replacement for Ben Foakes during the third Test - keeping the gloves. You have to think this is a huge game for Crawley. Otherwise a spot on selection based on the NZ series Agree. Last chance saloon for Crawley. He will find it difficult against Bumrah, Shami and co. If he doesn't make a score here, surely someone else will get an opportunity for the SA series
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 30, 2022 15:09:54 GMT
Anyone listen to Baz after the last match? he's either a massive fan of Crawley or a top bullshitter. "Baz"
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 30, 2022 15:27:17 GMT
I see Sibley has returned to Surrey. That'll be him firmly back in England contention again.
Fair play to him if he moved for those reasons. Cynical, but spot on.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 30, 2022 15:28:52 GMT
Anyone listen to Baz after the last match? he's either a massive fan of Crawley or a top bullshitter. "Baz" Great contribution, cheers.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 30, 2022 15:32:55 GMT
I see Sibley has returned to Surrey. That'll be him firmly back in England contention again. Fair play to him if he moved for those reasons. Cynical, but spot on. Surely the antithesis of Bazball?
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 30, 2022 16:19:40 GMT
All this "Baz" and "Bazball" nonsense really makes me cringe
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