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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 20:28:35 GMT
If I am struggling to work out what the hell has gone on today, I wonder how Sir Geoffrey will be feeling. 329 off 117 overs, followed by 264 off 49. I think he might shake his head, mutter something indistinct and head off to his rhubarb patch. One thing is for certain, I haven't got a clue what is going to happen tomorrow, except it is unlikely to be dull. We got out of jail is what happened to do. It was thrilling for sure. But, we shouldn’t have been in jail in the first place!
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 25, 2022 5:03:51 GMT
Big first hour coming up tomorrow.
Yesterday’s sensational partnership notwithstanding we are still some way behind New Zealand’s 1st innings score. We still need more runs so can’t afford to lose either batsmen in the opening hour because that opens the door to our rather weak tail.
As things stand, it looks like we’ll be looking at another big effort in a 4th innings run chase, which, of course, is something that doesn’t hold any fears for a Stokes 11, which is definitely a big plus he has brought to the captaincy.
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Post by swampmongrel on Jun 25, 2022 11:05:27 GMT
There was a load of mardarsery on this thread yesterday afternoon. 😂
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Post by AlliG on Jun 25, 2022 11:13:52 GMT
It's a shame that Overton wasn't able to manage to get to his 100.
It was a brilliant effort by him, but, the magic in his bat yesterday just wasn't there this morning.
He can take pride that he can probably open Wisden for the rest of his life and see himself as part of England's record 7th wicket partnership.
It has given Broad the chance to come in and do what he is best at; stand and swing. The straight 6 back over Boult's head was an impressive shot!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 25, 2022 11:34:50 GMT
If you told me at 55-6 we'd finish with a lead of 31 I'd have laughed in your face. Glad to see Broady back to doing what he does best with the bat.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 25, 2022 11:36:22 GMT
Hopefully Overton will have the bit between his teeth having fallen agonisingly close to a century. He’ll want to take out some retribution! Nice few overs we’ve got to get into em
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Post by chuckrocky on Jun 25, 2022 14:39:04 GMT
Looks like we’re going to have another huge total to try and chase down.
We’ve bowled poorly today, not helped by Root dropping another dolly in the slips.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 25, 2022 14:45:53 GMT
Looks like we’re going to have another huge total to try and chase down. We’ve bowled poorly today, not helped by Root dropping another dolly in the slips. I’m bored after yesterday☹️
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Post by chuckrocky on Jun 25, 2022 14:51:22 GMT
Looks like we’re going to have another huge total to try and chase down. We’ve bowled poorly today, not helped by Root dropping another dolly in the slips. I’m bored after yesterday☹️ Yeah it’s been a lot more sedate, although New Zealand are going along at nearly 4 an over.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 25, 2022 14:55:16 GMT
I’m bored after yesterday☹️ Yeah it’s been a lot more sedate, although New Zealand are going along at nearly 4 an over. I know and it seems really dull by comparison. We’ve been spoilt for entertainment
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jun 25, 2022 15:41:40 GMT
So we've been picking the wrong bloody Overton all this time...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 25, 2022 15:43:34 GMT
So we've been picking the wrong bloody Overton all this time... He always seemed the better of the two. Injuries have perhaps curtailed his progression over the last few years
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 25, 2022 16:19:01 GMT
i really like the look of Potts puts everything into it reminds me a bit of Darren Gough.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 25, 2022 16:20:28 GMT
i really like the look of Potts puts everything into it reminds me a bit of Darren Gough. Right on cue he gets Williamson
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 25, 2022 16:23:39 GMT
i really like the look of Potts puts everything into it reminds me a bit of Darren Gough. Right on cue he gets Williamson Been really impressed by him
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 25, 2022 17:16:16 GMT
i really like the look of Potts puts everything into it reminds me a bit of Darren Gough. The way he's been nailing those yorkers was very Gough like.
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Post by professorplump on Jun 26, 2022 1:15:50 GMT
A good final hour for us and if we can break the Mitchell / Blundell partnership early then we have a great chance to win. I thought Stokes captaincy today was extremely good.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 26, 2022 6:45:19 GMT
A good final hour for us and if we can break the Mitchell / Blundell partnership early then we have a great chance to win. I thought Stokes captaincy today was extremely good. I love the fact that Stokes is thinking outside the box and being brave in his decision making. Some captains in the past have captained like they’ve been reading a book.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 26, 2022 7:20:33 GMT
A good final hour for us and if we can break the Mitchell / Blundell partnership early then we have a great chance to win. I thought Stokes captaincy today was extremely good. I love the fact that Stokes is thinking outside the box and being brave in his decision making. Some captains in the past have captained like they’ve been reading a book. Our last three test captains, Root, Cook and Strauss (leaving aside the short reign of KP) were all massively conservative captains. Far too cautious. It’s great that Stokes is looking to inject a more positive approach. But, captaincy isn’t a binary thing; it’s not a question of either restraint or aggression. It’s about playing the situation. Stokes has to show he isn’t a one trick pony in his captaincy and that he knows how to pace his team. Particularly when it comes to his own batting, he’s too good a batsman to be hitting and hoping. Btw, by way of example, compare Bairstow’s recent innings. His century at Trent abridge was littered with 6s, his ton at Headingley didn’t contain one. He played the situation smartly. Stokes though just decided he want to blast his way as he did in the first innings at Trent Bridge and was dismissed leaving his team in huge danger.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 26, 2022 7:24:13 GMT
It’s going to be interesting to see how England go about the run chase in the final innings of this game.
Assuming we are chasing something between 250 and 300, we’ll probably have 4 sessions (at least) to get them in so no need to chase hard. But will we go for it hard when we could adopt a low risk chase (although I am aware our batting is always high risk to some degree!).
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 26, 2022 7:28:05 GMT
I love the fact that Stokes is thinking outside the box and being brave in his decision making. Some captains in the past have captained like they’ve been reading a book. Our last three test captains, Root, Cook and Strauss (leaving aside the short reign of KP) were all massively conservative captains. Far too cautious. It’s great that Stokes is looking to inject a more positive approach. But, captaincy isn’t a binary thing; it’s not a question of either restraint or aggression. It’s about playing the situation. Stokes has to show he isn’t a one trick pony in his captaincy and that he knows how to pace his team. Particularly when it comes to his own batting, he’s too good a batsman to be hitting and hoping. Btw, by way of example, compare Bairstow’s recent innings. His century at Trent abridge was littered with 6s, his ton at Headingley didn’t contain one. He played the situation smartly. Stokes though just decided he want to blast his way as he did in the first innings at Trent Bridge and was dismissed leaving his team in huge danger. I like the way he’s rotating his bowlers when things aren’t happening and he allows the bowlers to set there own fields. Also seems to have great man management skills and rapport with the team. He seems to have an infectious positive attitude which seems to be rubbing off on the rest of the team. It’s been great to watch. I’m sure he’ll settle down with the bat.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 26, 2022 8:21:21 GMT
i really like the look of Potts puts everything into it reminds me a bit of Darren Gough. Agreed, I like his action, looks comfortable. Hopefully one which allows a long career without too many injuries, unlike many of our other fast bowlers. Talking of which, Olly Stone is back in action after his stress fracture so hopefully he can come back into contention and provide the selectors with some nice alternatives, although it's really the top of the batting that needs sorting.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 26, 2022 9:11:42 GMT
Ben Foakes tested positive for the old vid, so Sam Billings is his Covid replacement. Interesting choice, no Buttler or Phil Salt etc?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 26, 2022 9:16:59 GMT
Ben Foakes tested positive for the old vid, so Sam Billings is his Covid replacement. Interesting choice, no Buttler or Phil Salt etc? He’s not the only one either,might disrupt their preparations for next week
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 26, 2022 9:47:45 GMT
I have a feeling Bairstow will take the gloves against India thus giving Harry Brook his well deserved opportunity to get into the side.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 26, 2022 9:51:25 GMT
Ben Foakes tested positive for the old vid, so Sam Billings is his Covid replacement. Interesting choice, no Buttler or Phil Salt etc? I’d imagine it’s because Buttlers been playing v Holland and you need to sub like for like and Salts a bowler.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 26, 2022 9:52:17 GMT
Ben Foakes tested positive for the old vid, so Sam Billings is his Covid replacement. Interesting choice, no Buttler or Phil Salt etc? I’d imagine it’s because Buttlers been playing v Holland and you need to sub like for like and Salts a bowler. Salts an wicket keeper isn’t he?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 26, 2022 9:53:51 GMT
I’d imagine it’s because Buttlers been playing v Holland and you need to sub like for like and Salts a bowler. Salts an wicket keeper Is he? shows how much i know thought he was a bowler. How did i finish 6th/7th in the fantasy cricket?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 26, 2022 9:57:52 GMT
Ben Foakes tested positive for the old vid, so Sam Billings is his Covid replacement. Interesting choice, no Buttler or Phil Salt etc? So Billings is allowed to bat then? Another aggressive ball striker.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 26, 2022 10:45:46 GMT
Ben Foakes tested positive for the old vid, so Sam Billings is his Covid replacement. Interesting choice, no Buttler or Phil Salt etc? So Billings is allowed to bat then? Another aggressive ball striker. Yeah the Covid replacements have to be a like for like. So it had to be a wicketkeeper batter. I was just thinking of who's been in and around the setup recently. Obviously Buttler was last in that position before Foakes took over in the Caribbean, but it feels to me like he's been dispensed with as far as Test cricket is concerned. So other options would be Billings who played in that last Ashes test, or Phil Salt who's been keeping for Lancs and opening in the ODI's. Can't think of too many others to be honest. They couldn't let Bairstow keep and bring in another batter because that wouldn't have been like for like. Interesting decision though for the next test v India, because if Foakes doesn't make it, do they keep Billings in? Or let Bairstow keep and bring in another batter/all rounder maybe?
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