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Post by MilanStokie on Oct 2, 2021 9:29:29 GMT
Unbelievable Third in the table and people are calling for him to be sacked. What do people want? This board, honestly Ive always said, there should be an IQ test before people are given internet access No one is calling for him to be sacked ššš Take the IQ test and read the thread properly. There's literally a thread on him needing to be sacked just a week ago... Edit. I just realised it's this thread!
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Post by zerps on Oct 2, 2021 9:30:02 GMT
This thread is verging on perverted obsession
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Post by stantheman on Oct 2, 2021 9:30:45 GMT
Not another thread that will be taken over by BO
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2021 9:31:31 GMT
Not another thread that will be taken over by BO Yes thatās the issue here. Are you actually stupid?
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Post by zerps on Oct 2, 2021 9:31:38 GMT
Not another thread that will be taken over by BO Itās about him you bellend š
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 9:32:08 GMT
I have no idea if you have ever taught or coached or run a business but, having done all three, my experience is progress is never in a straight line and success requires analysis, planning and execution and most importantly, time. Having stabilized things, MON and team had to take time to assess the squad, develop a playing style, work to develop the players for the system (yes Smith, Tymon, Brown and Thompson were here last season but coaching has massively improved them and Allen is in a new role) and identify and recruit new players working with huge financial constraints that clever work by the CEO eased this summer using the Covid exemptions on FFP - he couldnāt get the players he wanted as his excellent recruitment this season shows. You and many others ignored the impact of losing Campbell and the volume of injuries after Christmas and were calling for his head (when you were not writing off half the team that started last night). The question you should have been asking all last season was āis there a better manager for this club given the circumstances we are in?ā The answer than, as now, was no. How far we will go remains to be seen but we will achieve our potential under MON, something we havenāt done for a long time He came in and pretty much changed us over night though. I still donāt think weāre as good as we were under him in his first season yet. We're much more stable now. There were a lot of dog shit performances scattered around in that first half season that saw us get walloped.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 2, 2021 9:32:09 GMT
I'll openly admit I had a wobble with the manager last season post Campbell injury. I thought, and still do think that he was far too negative in his approach and it soured with me a bit. The results at the end of the season were dreadful, along with the football. At the end of the day though, we are all Stoke fans and we all see things differently even if we all have the same end goal. The only thing that matters is the club being successful and thankfully it looks like we are finally on the road to recovery. Sadly there are a growing number of posters on here just sitting silently in the background waiting for an opportunity to have a go at people who want to come on here and make a positive contribution (even if the content of the posts is sometimes negative) to discussing our shared passion. It's a bad precedent to set and a bad trend for the board. Also quite sad. As I've said somewhere else mate it's simply a reaction to all the baseless negative shit that is constantly posted on here. Considered constructive criticism is great, like you I wobbled a bit after Christmas last year, but every time MON puts a fingernail wrong there are a very vocal minority who cannot wait to do him down. There were some on here moaning like fuck when we beat Hull the other week ffs. So it's hardly surprising that there's a bit of gloating after a performance and result like last night. If they can't take it they shouldn't dish the shit out in the first place.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 2, 2021 9:32:38 GMT
I havenāt? Why canāt we just enjoy how well we are playing instead of this childish shit. I am enjoying how well we are playing, always knew this manager would have us challenging at the right end of this league given time, early days still but the signs are there that the rebuild job he had is getting there even quicker than expected. We are not that far off from being the real deal at this level, which, in two years is quite an achievement really. All the people calling for him to be sacked last season deserve to have those words rammed back down their throats but I'm going to let the manager do that from now on, but they/you cannot complain if other fans on this board keep bringing it back up. Iād be the first to admit that I was wrong about MON depending on how the rest of the season goes and thatās without these threads that achieve nothing but pathetic childish arguments about last season.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 2, 2021 9:34:15 GMT
Unbelievable Third in the table and people are calling for him to be sacked. What do people want? This board, honestly Ive always said, there should be an IQ test before people are given internet access I assume this is irony?
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 2, 2021 9:34:34 GMT
Unbelievable Third in the table and people are calling for him to be sacked. What do people want? This board, honestly Ive always said, there should be an IQ test before people are given internet access You included
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2021 9:35:45 GMT
He came in and pretty much changed us over night though. I still donāt think weāre as good as we were under him in his first season yet. We're much more stable now. There were a lot of dog shit performances scattered around in that first half season that saw us get walloped. We are, I was mainly talking about the football though. And there was but I thought the football was better and werenāt on like Championship form? I think weāre absolutely getting there though this season. And a striker will elevate that. Fletcher made us so much better immediately when he came on. Heās the third best at worst we have. So for the one who is better and the one who should be better to come back in is very exciting.
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Post by stantheman on Oct 2, 2021 9:35:52 GMT
Not another thread that will be taken over by BO Itās about him you bellend š But that's the fucking point, it's always about that clown, the whole fucking message board turns into his soap box. How about you set him up with his own personal message board where he can make a few hundred 'look at me' posts every day. A pair of bell ends together
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2021 9:36:48 GMT
Itās about him you bellend š But that's the fucking point, it's always about that clown, the whole fucking message board turns into his soap box. How about you set him up with his own personal message board where he can make a few hundred 'look at me' posts every day. A pair of bell ends together Literally I didnāt ask for this thread did I. Your anger is at the wrong person. Clearly š¤¦āāļø
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Post by zerps on Oct 2, 2021 9:37:46 GMT
Itās about him you bellend š But that's the fucking point, it's always about that clown, the whole fucking message board turns into his soap box. How about you set him up with his own personal message board where he can make a few hundred 'look at me' posts every day. A pair of bell ends together No it isnāt. He was quoted in the op. You canāt blame him for responding to this. Thick twat š
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Post by marwood on Oct 2, 2021 9:39:33 GMT
MON, Dennis, Nige - if you are reading this board, I might be in the minority here -But I want you to stay
You are doing a great job. Ignore the threads on here and keep up the good work!! Cant believe a 3 page thread on this already. FFS
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 2, 2021 9:41:28 GMT
In fairness you have always been very complimentary about the team, apart from Davies, Smith, Chester, Allen, Thompson, Surridge and Brown, all of whom you have written off as being useless. useless. Davies is. Smith canāt defend but weāve got around that. Chester on the whole has been but last night fair play. Allen and Thompson made a whole. I can live with that. Surridge and Brown I wonāt go there The main work of a football manager is done during the week, for the 90 minutes the players are on the field playing there is not a lot he can do, although some posters talk about game management but unless you have top draw very responsive talented players there is not a lot you can do. A manager also has to work with what he is given. MON has had very little opportunity to go out and buy anyone decent until Collins was sold and contracts were run down. As Ramsay once said " I don't necessarily pick the best players, I pick the best team". In some respects players are like jigsaw pieces and they need to fit together for the team to be effective. Cloughie always talked about "balance" in a team. When MON can get a top class striker, he will; meanwhile he tries to find the best fit with what he has got. The back line slotted together well last night and played well with the WBs. Tymon must be one of the most productive WBs in the league the number of good crosses he puts across. Smith is no far behind him. I told you our MF looks best when Allen is playing, although I accept he is weak defensively. Brown is an athlete trying to be a footballer, as he gets older he will get better as he learns from experience and works on his ball skills. Surridge is a natural poacher who gets into scoring positions all the time , but he has not learnt to take that split second to decide where to put the ball and just aims at the centre of the target. As he matures he will find that split second and become very productive. I picked Bursik to play, because he will get better from experience, Davies will not, but I think it is ridiculous to say Davies is useless.
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Post by zerps on Oct 2, 2021 9:41:34 GMT
MON, Dennis, Nige - if you are reading this board, I might be in the minority here -But I want you to stay You are doing a great job. Ignore the threads on here and keep up the good work!! Cant believe a 3 page thread on this already. FFS Have you read the thread?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 9:42:34 GMT
Unbelievable Third in the table and people are calling for him to be sacked. What do people want? This board, honestly Ive always said, there should be an IQ test before people are given internet access No one is calling for him to be sacked ššš Take the IQ test and read the thread properly. Nobody is calling for him to be sacked. Somebody would have sacked him already. Imagine where we'd be now if we had retards running the club.
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Post by marwood on Oct 2, 2021 9:45:20 GMT
MON, Dennis, Nige - if you are reading this board, I might be in the minority here -But I want you to stay You are doing a great job. Ignore the threads on here and keep up the good work!! Cant believe a 3 page thread on this already. FFS Have you read the thread? Not yet I was drawn in to post by the title, its like when you see a petrol queue and join it Same happened with Gone Girl, read the book based on title but didnt read it properly Will read it now EDIT - just read it(thread , not Gone Girl) worse than i thought Grown men calling each other 'numptys' and 'bellends' ffs
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Post by zerps on Oct 2, 2021 9:45:41 GMT
No one is calling for him to be sacked ššš Take the IQ test and read the thread properly. Nobody is calling for him to be sacked. Somebody would have sacked him already. Imagine where we'd be now if we had retards running the club. Imagine where youād be now if you werenāt pissing yourself over what someone you donāt know said ages ago on the internet.
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Post by zerps on Oct 2, 2021 9:46:30 GMT
Have you read the thread? Not yet I was drawn in to post by the title, its like when you see a petrol queue and join it Same happened with Gone Girl, read the book based on title but didnt read it properly Will read it now EDIT - just read it(thread , not Gone Girl) worse than i thought Grown men calling each other 'numptys' and 'bellends' ffs Yeah nobody wants him sacked itās just a shit thread
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2021 9:47:09 GMT
No one is calling for him to be sacked ššš Take the IQ test and read the thread properly. Nobody is calling for him to be sacked. Somebody would have sacked him already. Imagine where we'd be now if we had retards running the club. You always find ways of sinking lower. Take your own advice and leave the house.
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Post by zerps on Oct 2, 2021 9:47:56 GMT
I told you so threads always age well donāt they?
Donāt they?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2021 9:47:56 GMT
Nobody is calling for him to be sacked. Somebody would have sacked him already. Imagine where we'd be now if we had retards running the club. Imagine where youād be now if you werenāt pissing yourself over what someone you donāt know said ages ago on the internet. Heās just making himself agitated. I donāt get it.
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Post by potterpaul on Oct 2, 2021 9:49:23 GMT
There's no doubting he's done a great job since arriving but I can't help that the turnaround this season has a little to do with the appointment of Holden. Not to take anything away from MON, it's looking like a successful partnership.
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Post by zerps on Oct 2, 2021 9:49:45 GMT
Imagine where youād be now if you werenāt pissing yourself over what someone you donāt know said ages ago on the internet. Heās just making himself agitated. I donāt get it. Just keep winding him up mate. Weāve won a game so he turns on someone for having an opinion during a different period in our history instead of enjoying the win. I bet heās called Karen.
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Post by samwidge on Oct 2, 2021 9:52:00 GMT
Oh God we did last night. No. 9/11 players that started last night we had last season and there was no excuse for the shite he produced in it. If anything it reinforced my point about what the real issues were. Thankfully heās chanced tact. I have no idea if you have ever taught or coached or run a business but, having done all three, my experience is progress is never in a straight line and success requires analysis, planning and execution and most importantly, time. Having stabilized things, MON and team had to take time to assess the squad, develop a playing style, work to develop the players for the system (yes Smith, Tymon, Brown and Thompson were here last season but coaching has massively improved them and Allen is in a new role) and identify and recruit new players working with huge financial constraints that clever work by the CEO eased this summer using the Covid exemptions on FFP - he couldnāt get the players he wanted as his excellent recruitment this season shows. You and many others ignored the impact of losing Campbell and the volume of injuries after Christmas and were calling for his head (when you were not writing off half the team that started last night). The question you should have been asking all last season was āis there a better manager for this club given the circumstances we are in?ā The answer than, as now, was no. How far we will go remains to be seen but we will achieve our potential under MON, something we havenāt done for a long time Bang on the money. Excellently put Chiswick.
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 2, 2021 9:56:36 GMT
MON, Dennis, Nige - if you are reading this board, I might be in the minority here -But I want you to stay You are doing a great job. Ignore the threads on here and keep up the good work!! Cant believe a 3 page thread on this already. FFS Have you read the thread? Marwoodās humour is above the average intellect on here
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Post by stantheman on Oct 2, 2021 10:03:57 GMT
Heās just making himself agitated. I donāt get it. Just keep winding him up mate. Weāve won a game so he turns on someone for having an opinion during a different period in our history instead of enjoying the win. I bet heās called Karen. You pair of 'mates' need to get a room š¤£
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Post by owdestokie2 on Oct 2, 2021 10:04:13 GMT
Iām not sure what redapples is trying to achieve with this thread. If MON had lost his job at the end of last season, he couldāve had no complaints and neither would I. But the mark of a good manager is accepting when something isnāt working. Thankfully this season, he has ditched his 4-3-3 and brought in players that suit a better system. Weāre at last seeing the MON who miraculously saved us from oblivion. Likewise, Mad Nath finally binned the diamond and is having much more success. Let it go. I have no regrets about wanting MON out last season but no heās come to his senses, Iām glad to have him and hope he leads us to promotion. ā could have had no complaintsāš¤£š¤£utter horseshit ābut he came to his sensesā ššš
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