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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 19, 2022 10:00:28 GMT
We are trying by keeping the log burners in and minimising the rooms we use and getting through so much bloody wood. The government even tried to prevent those in the “sticks” from using certain cheaper coal and wet wood (not necessarily wet but not pre-dried). Well I’m sorry Mr Johnson we are going to have to start cutting trees down here and burn them to keep warm - it is fucking ridiculous. I don’t think those in their ivory towers in London appreciate what its like to live in more remote areas - we pay our taxes and rates like everyone else but get next to fuck all back for it - no road maintenance, no street lighting, no gas, no sewerage, no public transport - yet we are expected to pay for it like everyone else. It's far worse than that we had to raise money to buy our own streetlights. The previous village I lived in spent decades raising money for a village hall, tennis court, bowling green, childrens' playground. No public transport being out in the sticks and more costs on car travel over the years. 20 odd years ago under the previous government there was a plan to encourage business out in the sticks to improve employment and keep cars out of the towns and cities. Going back to oil our provider is not answering the phone due to the level of calls coming in. They can't give a price because the delivery date is now two weeks ahead and they don't know what the price will be. The alternative supplier we've used when we've run the fuel down in the past and needed a quicker delivery are in exactly the same boat. Fuel providers are not taking on new customers. It's a mess. Without wishing to provoke the usual response, do you think about the consequences of how you vote? Small govt, low taxes mean less money for local authorities who then cut back on things like street lighting, bus route subsidies, maintaining playgrounds etc etc...There's a fairly obvious link there. I'm sorry if bringing party politics into it isn't what you're after, but you seem to be pretty discontented with the way things are going at the moment: you started a thread about young people being shafted, you've now mentioned inadequate local facilities, prices rising etc. These things aren't just random disconnected events. Not all, but a lot of them are the result of government policies, not least those issues you mention about having to fund things yourself because local authorities aren't able to. In what way does paying less tax make your life better if you can't get the local services you're after and end up having to pay for them yourself anyway? Thankfully, living in a democracy, it is possible do something about it.
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Post by felonious on Mar 19, 2022 10:42:26 GMT
It's far worse than that we had to raise money to buy our own streetlights. The previous village I lived in spent decades raising money for a village hall, tennis court, bowling green, childrens' playground. No public transport being out in the sticks and more costs on car travel over the years. 20 odd years ago under the previous government there was a plan to encourage business out in the sticks to improve employment and keep cars out of the towns and cities. Going back to oil our provider is not answering the phone due to the level of calls coming in. They can't give a price because the delivery date is now two weeks ahead and they don't know what the price will be. The alternative supplier we've used when we've run the fuel down in the past and needed a quicker delivery are in exactly the same boat. Fuel providers are not taking on new customers. It's a mess. Without wishing to provoke the usual response, do you think about the consequences of how you vote? Small govt, low taxes mean less money for local authorities who then cut back on things like street lighting, bus route subsidies, maintaining playgrounds etc etc...There's a fairly obvious link there. I'm sorry if bringing party politics into it isn't what you're after, but you seem to be pretty discontented with the way things are going at the moment: you started a thread about young people being shafted, you've now mentioned inadequate local facilities, prices rising etc. These things aren't just random disconnected events. Not all, but a lot of them are the result of government policies, not least those issues you mention about having to fund things yourself because local authorities aren't able to. In what way does paying less tax make your life better if you can't get the local services you're after and end up having to pay for them yourself anyway? Thankfully, living in a democracy, it is possible do something about it. The street lighting was under Labour. The withdrawal of rural bus routes was happening under Labour. The other village amenities I refer to was under both administrations. Neither party is particularly interested in rural communities because of the lack of mass votes. If you look at people's voting habits I suspect that Labour would be less interested. I've no idea what you think the "usual response" is because I don't believe I have one. Perhaps it's you who should be worried because I like a reasonable amount of your posts I put the young people thread up because I feel they get a bad press from old people with comfortable lives. That won't change anytime soon under any administration of any flavour.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 25, 2022 16:41:39 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 24, 2022 12:04:54 GMT
Unbelievable come October
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 24, 2022 12:23:34 GMT
Unbelievable also....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 24, 2022 12:25:46 GMT
Without wishing to provoke the usual response, do you think about the consequences of how you vote? Small govt, low taxes mean less money for local authorities who then cut back on things like street lighting, bus route subsidies, maintaining playgrounds etc etc...There's a fairly obvious link there. I'm sorry if bringing party politics into it isn't what you're after, but you seem to be pretty discontented with the way things are going at the moment: you started a thread about young people being shafted, you've now mentioned inadequate local facilities, prices rising etc. These things aren't just random disconnected events. Not all, but a lot of them are the result of government policies, not least those issues you mention about having to fund things yourself because local authorities aren't able to. In what way does paying less tax make your life better if you can't get the local services you're after and end up having to pay for them yourself anyway? Thankfully, living in a democracy, it is possible do something about it. The street lighting was under Labour. The withdrawal of rural bus routes was happening under Labour. The other village amenities I refer to was under both administrations. Neither party is particularly interested in rural communities because of the lack of mass votes. If you look at people's voting habits I suspect that Labour would be less interested. I've no idea what you think the "usual response" is because I don't believe I have one. Perhaps it's you who should be worried because I like a reasonable amount of your posts I put the young people thread up because I feel they get a bad press from old people with comfortable lives. That won't change anytime soon under any administration of any flavour. You should have checked out the Labour Party manifestos 2017 and 2019
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Post by probably on May 24, 2022 12:53:27 GMT
The street lighting was under Labour. The withdrawal of rural bus routes was happening under Labour. The other village amenities I refer to was under both administrations. Neither party is particularly interested in rural communities because of the lack of mass votes. If you look at people's voting habits I suspect that Labour would be less interested. I've no idea what you think the "usual response" is because I don't believe I have one. Perhaps it's you who should be worried because I like a reasonable amount of your posts I put the young people thread up because I feel they get a bad press from old people with comfortable lives. That won't change anytime soon under any administration of any flavour. You should have checked out the Labour Party manifestos 2017 and 2019 People did. Thats why Labour received its worst ever election result since the 1920’s.
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Post by lordb on May 24, 2022 13:04:03 GMT
You should have checked out the Labour Party manifestos 2017 and 2019 People did. Thats why Labour received its worst ever election result since the 1920’s. 2017 they didn't, similar manifesto to 2019 but totally different results Votors decided they preferred Boris to Corbyn
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 24, 2022 13:10:56 GMT
You should have checked out the Labour Party manifestos 2017 and 2019 People did. Thats why Labour received its worst ever election result since the 1920’s. People are also now wishing that they hadn't voted Tory.
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Post by phileetin on May 24, 2022 13:17:30 GMT
People did. Thats why Labour received its worst ever election result since the 1920’s. People are also now wishing that they hadn't voted Tory.
but , are people regretting not voting labour ?
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Post by questionable on May 24, 2022 13:54:10 GMT
It’s getting beyond a joke now, the only appliances we have turned on during the day is the wi-fi and the fridge freezer, oh and our smart meter which so far today reckons we’ve used £1.56 on electricity.
Literally impossible to cut back any further, heaven knows how you’d go on having to cook meals for kids etc, truth is you can’t get on it’s impossible and it’s getting worse.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 24, 2022 13:57:34 GMT
People are also now wishing that they hadn't voted Tory. but , are people regretting not voting labour ? XX
The manifestos of 2017 and 2019 had solutions to the fuel bill crisis. Did you read either of them?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 24, 2022 14:05:52 GMT
It’s getting beyond a joke now, the only appliances we have turned on during the day is the wi-fi and the fridge freezer, oh and our smart meter which so far today reckons we’ve used £1.56 on electricity. Literally impossible to cut back any further, heaven knows how you’d go on having to cook meal for kids etc, truth is go can’t get on it’s impossible and it’s getting worse. Already struggling people will die as a result of these fuel price hikes. While a government wedded to the ideology of letting the market do want it wants sits idly by.
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Post by phileetin on May 24, 2022 14:48:37 GMT
but , are people regretting not voting labour ? XX
The manifestos of 2017 and 2019 had solutions to the fuel bill crisis. Did you read either of them? i didn't even know there was a fuel bill crisis in 2017 or 2019 , shows how out of touch i am . i was more concernered about the social care crisis at the time which still doesn't seem to be being resolved .
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Post by superjw on May 24, 2022 15:10:35 GMT
It’s getting beyond a joke now, the only appliances we have turned on during the day is the wi-fi and the fridge freezer, oh and our smart meter which so far today reckons we’ve used £1.56 on electricity. Literally impossible to cut back any further, heaven knows how you’d go on having to cook meals for kids etc, truth is you can’t get on it’s impossible and it’s getting worse. Standing charges are about 40/50p a day on electricity now, that's without using anything at all
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Post by franklin on May 24, 2022 20:54:17 GMT
So my energy have more than doubled to in excess of 3k a year. And do I have it correct that come October they are due to rise by approx £800 again ?? Its bonkers.
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Post by deeside2 on May 25, 2022 4:54:22 GMT
I was fortunately on a really low tariff for the past two years but it finished in April. The new tariff has effectively tripled my monthly bill. We've got in the habit of switching most things off at the plug (kettle, microwave, lamps, printer, tv etc) when we're not using them, but my last bill showed we'd used quite a bit more electricity than the same time last year. I checked the meter readings and it seems accurate but I don't understand the increased usage. This latest increase coming in October is going to make things "interesting" this winter as the missus likes to be toastie, so I've told her to get a couple of fleeces to wear.
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Post by westlandstokie on May 25, 2022 5:54:10 GMT
I was fortunately on a really low tariff for the past two years but it finished in April. The new tariff has effectively tripled my monthly bill. We've got in the habit of switching most things off at the plug (kettle, microwave, lamps, printer, tv etc) when we're not using them, but my last bill showed we'd used quite a bit more electricity than the same time last year. I checked the meter readings and it seems accurate but I don't understand the increased usage. This latest increase coming in October is going to make things "interesting" this winter as the missus likes to be toastie, so I've told her to get a couple of fleeces to wear. Same in our house mate…nothing on at the switch that isn’t needed. My missus used to turn up the central heating in the evening if it went cooler…but now she throws a blanket over herself instead. To be living like this in 2022 when we both work full time is crazy. Thankfully we have paid off our mortgage but I feel for people just starting out…it must be a real worry.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2022 6:34:05 GMT
Wholesale gas prices have fallen quite considerably as well.
It’s a con.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 25, 2022 6:44:16 GMT
This country is a fucking sick joke.
Now I totally get why people piss off abroad, I didn’t used to understand it but now I do.
There’s absolutely no reason for this, the 5th richest nation on earth apparently but a large majority of its residents can’t afford to heat their homes or eat properly.
Place is a cesspit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2022 6:49:39 GMT
This country is a fucking sick joke. Now I totally get why people piss off abroad, I didn’t used to understand it but now I do. There’s absolutely no reason for this, the 5th richest nation on earth apparently but a large majority of its residents can’t afford to heat their homes or eat properly. Place is a cesspit. I don’t understand how we don’t have control over energy like the French do. How can anyone think it’s ok?
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Post by thevoid on May 25, 2022 6:50:19 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 25, 2022 6:57:18 GMT
This country is a fucking sick joke. Now I totally get why people piss off abroad, I didn’t used to understand it but now I do. There’s absolutely no reason for this, the 5th richest nation on earth apparently but a large majority of its residents can’t afford to heat their homes or eat properly. Place is a cesspit. I don’t understand how we don’t have control over energy like the French do. How can anyone think it’s ok? Because the French, and other countries, have not bought into the "free market at all costs, butt out government" approach that we have.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2022 6:59:10 GMT
I don’t understand how we don’t have control over energy like the French do. How can anyone think it’s ok? Because the French, and other countries, have not bought into the "free market at all costs, butt out government" approach that we have. I understand that but I don’t understand it (if that makes sense). 😂
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 25, 2022 7:05:39 GMT
Because the French, and other countries, have not bought into the "free market at all costs, butt out government" approach that we have. I understand that but I don’t understand it (if that makes sense). 😂 I suppose the proper answer to your actual question is perhaps people don't think it's ok, but also don't realise what laissez-faire free market economics and a government whose ideology is to keep out leads to?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 25, 2022 7:06:58 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2022 7:16:36 GMT
I understand that but I don’t understand it (if that makes sense). 😂 I suppose the proper answer to your actual question is perhaps people don't think it's ok, but also don't realise what laissez-faire free market economics and a government whose ideology is to keep out leads to? Definitely. It just seems damn lazy too from the government pov. I’d want to be in control if it was me in charge. It seems a risky strategy (and did before this).
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Post by deeside2 on May 25, 2022 7:20:12 GMT
This country is a fucking sick joke. U Now I totally get why people piss off abroad, I didn’t used to understand it but now I do. There’s absolutely no reason for this, the 5th richest nation on earth apparently but a large majority of its residents can’t afford to heat their homes or eat properly. Place is a cesspit. We've been seriously considering moving abroad for a while now as we've not really got any close family ties in the U.K. anymore and have been looking into all the positives and pitfalls of life in the sun. Value for money property-wise it's a no brainer. I guess the main problem is having the guts to take the plunge and actually do it.
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Post by thevoid on May 25, 2022 7:29:38 GMT
This country is a fucking sick joke. U Now I totally get why people piss off abroad, I didn’t used to understand it but now I do. There’s absolutely no reason for this, the 5th richest nation on earth apparently but a large majority of its residents can’t afford to heat their homes or eat properly. Place is a cesspit. We've been seriously considering moving abroad for a while now as we've not really got any close family ties in the U.K. anymore and have been looking into all the positives and pitfalls of life in the sun. Value for money property-wise it's a no brainer. I guess the main problem is having the guts to take the plunge and actually do it. Go for it, that's our dream. We pay through the nose for everything here.
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Post by superjw on May 25, 2022 9:03:59 GMT
Although this isn't energy bills, I'm in Greece at the minute and it's €2.40 per litre for petrol. Cost me a fortune in the hire car! However diesel is cheaper than the UK
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