Basically heating oil users are now daily hostages to the market. If this was happening on the gas grid or electricity grid there would be riots on the street.
There needs to be massive and immediate investment in green and renewable energy. We have to wean ourselves off gas and oil, from Russia and anywhere. Else energy prices are only going in one direction.
Big taxes on the oil and gas companies. Big taxes on companies that benefitted from covid contracts. A wealth tax on multi millionaires.
There needs to be massive and immediate investment in green and renewable energy. We have to wean ourselves off gas and oil, from Russia and anywhere. Else energy prices are only going in one direction.
Big taxes on the oil and gas companies. Big taxes on companies that benefitted from covid contracts. A wealth tax on multi millionaires.
Yep. Should have been doing that for at least a decade - especially with some of the biggest tidal ranges in the world...
State aid rules need rewriting before any of that happens.
That’s an excuse the government like to use so they don’t do anything. Why is it in this country that we are absolutely fine with the Chinese or French government running vital services here, but we couldn’t possibly let the UK government run our energy suppliers or rail network!?
State aid rules need rewriting before any of that happens.
That’s an excuse the government like to use so they don’t do anything. Why is it in this country that we are absolutely fine with the Chinese or French government running vital services here, but we couldn’t possibly let the UK government run our energy suppliers or rail network!?
I don't disagree. But the party in charge won't do it.
There needs to be massive and immediate investment in green and renewable energy. We have to wean ourselves off gas and oil, from Russia and anywhere. Else energy prices are only going in one direction.
Big taxes on the oil and gas companies. Big taxes on companies that benefitted from covid contracts. A wealth tax on multi millionaires.
I don't disagree but 1 million houses in the UK aren't on the existing grid septic tank and heating oil is the only option, so weaning them off gas or oil will take decades. There is no infrastructure. I don't even have broadband and I'm only 5m outside Eccleshall.
Last year I looked into ground source heatpump it was £40k and the govt would give me a grant of £500 a year for the next 20 years if I paid up front.
There needs to be massive and immediate investment in green and renewable energy. We have to wean ourselves off gas and oil, from Russia and anywhere. Else energy prices are only going in one direction.
Big taxes on the oil and gas companies. Big taxes on companies that benefitted from covid contracts. A wealth tax on multi millionaires.
I don't disagree but 1 million houses in the UK aren't on the existing grid septic tank and heating oil is the only option, so weaning them off gas or oil will take decades. There is no infrastructure. I don't even have broadband and I'm only 5m outside Eccleshall.
Last year I looked into ground source heatpump it was £40k and the govt would give me a grant of £500 a year for the next 20 years if I paid up front.
Insulate and stick with your existing form of heating as long as possible. Fabric first is the sensible approach.
I don't disagree but 1 million houses in the UK aren't on the existing grid septic tank and heating oil is the only option, so weaning them off gas or oil will take decades. There is no infrastructure. I don't even have broadband and I'm only 5m outside Eccleshall.
Last year I looked into ground source heatpump it was £40k and the govt would give me a grant of £500 a year for the next 20 years if I paid up front.
Insulate and stick with your existing form of heating as long as possible. Fabric first is the sensible approach.
Sadly that what started my whingefest, I can't do much more on insulation but oil prices going up 4x what they were 14 days ago is a joke. 2 months central oil just cost me £1700. I'm working how does the old dear over the road afford that?
Basically heating oil users are now daily hostages to the market. If this was happening on the gas grid or electricity grid there would be riots on the street.
All our central heating and hot water is via an oil boiler. 1000L has risen from £300 to £1700 and we fill it 3 times a year. Simply can’t afford it so had to turn the heating OFF and we have an 82 year old living with us - the price is criminal. Reduced to 1 shower each a week and no running hot water. It’s fuckin mental. As mentioned if this was the same for gas there would be riots
There needs to be massive and immediate investment in green and renewable energy. We have to wean ourselves off gas and oil, from Russia and anywhere. Else energy prices are only going in one direction.
Big taxes on the oil and gas companies. Big taxes on companies that benefitted from covid contracts. A wealth tax on multi millionaires.
I don't disagree but 1 million houses in the UK aren't on the existing grid septic tank and heating oil is the only option, so weaning them off gas or oil will take decades. There is no infrastructure. I don't even have broadband and I'm only 5m outside Eccleshall.
Last year I looked into ground source heatpump it was £40k and the govt would give me a grant of £500 a year for the next 20 years if I paid up front.
We looked into that too - a complete non starter.
Now got to install security so no one tries to steal our oil.
Same situation with you re the infrastructure and we’re 5m outside Eccleshall too
Basically heating oil users are now daily hostages to the market. If this was happening on the gas grid or electricity grid there would be riots on the street.
All our central heating and hot water is via an oil boiler. 1000L has risen from £300 to £1700 and we fill it 3 times a year. Simply can’t afford it so had to turn the heating OFF and we have an 82 year old living with us - the price is criminal. Reduced to 1 shower each a week and no running hot water. It’s fuckin mental. As mentioned if this was the same for gas there would be riots
Think you're right about if it were gas- hope the situation improves, or some sort of help will need to be provided.
There needs to be massive and immediate investment in green and renewable energy. We have to wean ourselves off gas and oil, from Russia and anywhere. Else energy prices are only going in one direction.
Big taxes on the oil and gas companies. Big taxes on companies that benefitted from covid contracts. A wealth tax on multi millionaires.
I don't disagree but 1 million houses in the UK aren't on the existing grid septic tank and heating oil is the only option, so weaning them off gas or oil will take decades. There is no infrastructure. I don't even have broadband and I'm only 5m outside Eccleshall.
Last year I looked into ground source heatpump it was £40k and the govt would give me a grant of £500 a year for the next 20 years if I paid up front.
Jeez, read this and your other posts. That’s awful. What are this government doing? Levelling up means getting those 1 million homes sorted immediately.
Unfortunately with a first past the post system the government have no incentive to help those who need it. They just need to help a few thousand at the expense of the rest to win an election and keep power.
All our central heating and hot water is via an oil boiler. 1000L has risen from £300 to £1700 and we fill it 3 times a year. Simply can’t afford it so had to turn the heating OFF and we have an 82 year old living with us - the price is criminal. Reduced to 1 shower each a week and no running hot water. It’s fuckin mental. As mentioned if this was the same for gas there would be riots
Think you're right about if it were gas- hope the situation improves, or some sort of help will need to be provided.
We are trying by keeping the log burners in and minimising the rooms we use and getting through so much bloody wood. The government even tried to prevent those in the “sticks” from using certain cheaper coal and wet wood (not necessarily wet but not pre-dried). Well I’m sorry Mr Johnson we are going to have to start cutting trees down here and burn them to keep warm - it is fucking ridiculous.
I don’t think those in their ivory towers in London appreciate what its like to live in more remote areas - we pay our taxes and rates like everyone else but get next to fuck all back for it - no road maintenance, no street lighting, no gas, no sewerage, no public transport - yet we are expected to pay for it like everyone else.
Saw diesel at £1.82 today. Scandalous. The country will be at a freezing standstill soon.
What I don’t get is Diesel up by 20% Petrol up by 15% Fuel oil up by 300%
All the above over the last 4 weeks - all use oil though
It's a fucking scandal mate. We are being ripped off and not all of it is down to Ukraine sanctions. The only difference is the MSM don't see heating oil.
Basically heating oil users are now daily hostages to the market. If this was happening on the gas grid or electricity grid there would be riots on the street.
All our central heating and hot water is via an oil boiler. 1000L has risen from £300 to £1700 and we fill it 3 times a year. Simply can’t afford it so had to turn the heating OFF and we have an 82 year old living with us - the price is criminal. Reduced to 1 shower each a week and no running hot water. It’s fuckin mental. As mentioned if this was the same for gas there would be riots
Same here and the wife says I’m tight, caught my daughter the other day “warming” her hands with an hair dryer absolutely flipped, then warming plates in the microwave, it’s causing arguments all the time as they’re thick, well don’t have pay for it more like.
Doing more and more to save energy where I can bug it’s hard work when I do my bit and other family members carry on regardless
Think you're right about if it were gas- hope the situation improves, or some sort of help will need to be provided.
We are trying by keeping the log burners in and minimising the rooms we use and getting through so much bloody wood. The government even tried to prevent those in the “sticks” from using certain cheaper coal and wet wood (not necessarily wet but not pre-dried). Well I’m sorry Mr Johnson we are going to have to start cutting trees down here and burn them to keep warm - it is fucking ridiculous.
I don’t think those in their ivory towers in London appreciate what its like to live in more remote areas - we pay our taxes and rates like everyone else but get next to fuck all back for it - no road maintenance, no street lighting, no gas, no sewerage, no public transport - yet we are expected to pay for it like everyone else.
Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Mar 13, 2022 14:59:44 GMT
Does anyone have an inkling how to calculate the price cap if I have my years usage for gas and electric. Trying to get any advice from Shell is like asking MoN to drop Jack Bonham
'That's why a man can read a newspaper or magazine from front to back in the toilet in his own smell....mind you, the next person who walks in will think they've been hit in the head with a poo bat!'
Does anyone have an inkling how to calculate the price cap if I have my years usage for gas and electric. Trying to get any advice from Shell is like asking MoN to drop Jack Bonham
Best place to look is here I think- it has a table with the new average rates , assuming you pay by direct debit
My latest bill and I've managed to come out of the winter with a profit still, and got a small amount back from the solar panels FIT, the rooms we don't use the radiators are on frost protection setting, and a morning like today a frosty start but no heating on, open all the doors where the sun is coming in and let the solar gain heat the house up.
Saw diesel at £1.82 today. Scandalous. The country will be at a freezing standstill soon.
What I don’t get is Diesel up by 20% Petrol up by 15% Fuel oil up by 300%
All the above over the last 4 weeks - all use oil though
I think it's processing fees, taxes etc mate? They don't always go up with the oil price
If four weeks ago it was 25p for the oil and 75p for duty, processing, running the petrol station etc then that's a quid a litre. If oil is up 300% then it's now £1 for oil, but still 75p for duty etc. The 300% in oil means 75% at the pump. I pulled the numbers out of my arse, just thinking how the percents could be different.
I'm sorry to hear Andy's situation, this is brutal for people with oil heating.
Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 17, 2022 11:04:32 GMT
Just had my updated direct debit payments in line with the energy price rises Gas I currently pay £60 a month and they now want £147 Electric I currently pay £90 and they want £128 All from April😮 Both are all up to date although I had a debit of £49 on the Gas account. Absolutely fuckin ridiculous and how folk who are already struggling can cope I don’t know Absolutely scandalous
Insulate and stick with your existing form of heating as long as possible. Fabric first is the sensible approach.
Sadly that what started my whingefest, I can't do much more on insulation but oil prices going up 4x what they were 14 days ago is a joke. 2 months central oil just cost me £1700. I'm working how does the old dear over the road afford that?
1700 nicker for 2 months oil Holy shit that's bad!!! That's 10k for the "colder" months alone at that rate. I hope you can manage pal or you at least have plenty of jumpers, bloody hell.
Think you're right about if it were gas- hope the situation improves, or some sort of help will need to be provided.
We are trying by keeping the log burners in and minimising the rooms we use and getting through so much bloody wood. The government even tried to prevent those in the “sticks” from using certain cheaper coal and wet wood (not necessarily wet but not pre-dried). Well I’m sorry Mr Johnson we are going to have to start cutting trees down here and burn them to keep warm - it is fucking ridiculous.
I don’t think those in their ivory towers in London appreciate what its like to live in more remote areas - we pay our taxes and rates like everyone else but get next to fuck all back for it - no road maintenance, no street lighting, no gas, no sewerage, no public transport - yet we are expected to pay for it like everyone else.
It's far worse than that we had to raise money to buy our own streetlights. The previous village I lived in spent decades raising money for a village hall, tennis court, bowling green, childrens' playground.
No public transport being out in the sticks and more costs on car travel over the years. 20 odd years ago under the previous government there was a plan to encourage business out in the sticks to improve employment and keep cars out of the towns and cities.
Going back to oil our provider is not answering the phone due to the level of calls coming in. They can't give a price because the delivery date is now two weeks ahead and they don't know what the price will be. The alternative supplier we've used when we've run the fuel down in the past and needed a quicker delivery are in exactly the same boat. Fuel providers are not taking on new customers. It's a mess.
Holy shit that's bad!!! That's 10k for the "colder" months alone at that rate. I hope you can manage pal or you at least have plenty of jumpers, bloody hell.
