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Post by hotterpotter on Sept 19, 2021 8:05:29 GMT
Just wondering really - with all the things you can train people to do, is it possible to train someone to be at least competent with their 'other' foot?
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Post by neddy on Sept 19, 2021 8:09:27 GMT
Just wondering really - with all the things you can train people to do, is it possible to train someone to be at least competent with their 'other' foot? I’m sure you can work on it but fundamentally I think you either can or you can’t use both feet.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 19, 2021 8:20:16 GMT
Just wondering really - with all the things you can train people to do, is it possible to train someone to be at least competent with their 'other' foot? Yes. And, like lots of other aspects of football and life, the player has to have tbe drive to want to.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 19, 2021 8:28:47 GMT
Yes but much easier with children. Imagine trying to write with your other hand. Eventually you can but when not practising you will always revert to your natural hand unless you have lost the use of it. Like languages if you learn as a child it is much easier to move from one to the other as both come naturally.
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 19, 2021 9:04:54 GMT
Yes absolutely you can become competent with what otherwise be your standing foot but it takes effort and best to start young. It amazes me how few footballers are two footed, of course there will always be a preference for your "better" foot.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Sept 19, 2021 9:08:27 GMT
Yes, Campbell has got a lot better on his left foot.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2021 9:17:23 GMT
Definitely.
Campbell is a great example. Although it’s his right foot he’s got a lot better on.
Also I’ve done it myself. Until I was about 18 I couldn’t use my left foot, never saw the need (moron) then I played five a side and if you can’t use both feet then you’re fucked. So by playing that sort of football in tight spaces it improved my left foot massively.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 19, 2021 9:26:11 GMT
As a flying left winger in the early 90’s I was told I needed to use my left foot a lot more or I wouldn’t amount to anything. Learned pretty quickly and my left had equal accuracy to my right after a few months but with a bit less power. I never amounted to anything mind 🤨
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 19, 2021 9:28:22 GMT
It's like most things isn't it - practice?
Stan and Tom Finney used to train with a plimsoll on their stronger foot to focus them on improving their weaker ones.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 19, 2021 9:39:03 GMT
Yes, Campbell has got a lot better on his left foot. Campbell is naturally left footed isn't he? It is his right foot which has dramatically improved since he broke into the first team squad. It would be interesting to know how Ty managed to become 2 footed - although, if he has any sense he will keep the secret to himself until he retires.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 9:53:21 GMT
Likewise I'm always surprised more players don't train it, it's such fine margins between top athletes. It seems a really obvious way to get an edge.
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Post by peekay67 on Sept 19, 2021 9:54:44 GMT
You need a big wall. Kick a ball against it with your left foot. Or right if that's the weakest.
Not saying you become Ronaldo. But practice does improve
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Post by bojanwonder on Sept 19, 2021 10:21:53 GMT
Just wondering really - with all the things you can train people to do, is it possible to train someone to be at least competent with their 'other' foot? Yes. And, like lots of other aspects of football and life, the player has to have tbe drive to want to. And therein lies the problem. If Ince had drive he would be doing much more to compete for a place. And strengthening his weak foot would make him far more of an option as he's so limited in that regard!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2021 10:23:20 GMT
Yes. And, like lots of other aspects of football and life, the player has to have tbe drive to want to. And therein lies the problem. If Ince had drive he would be doing much more to compete for a place. And strengthening his weak foot would make him far more of an option as he's so limited in that regard! Why pick on Ince? Most of the squad are very one footed.
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Post by bojanwonder on Sept 19, 2021 10:34:54 GMT
And therein lies the problem. If Ince had drive he would be doing much more to compete for a place. And strengthening his weak foot would make him far more of an option as he's so limited in that regard! Why pick on Ince? Most of the squad are very one footed. Because I'm guessing the OP was thinking of Ince when he started the thread and for me, watching him yesterday, it showed his ineffectiveness to create anything of note. I wasn't 'picking' on Ince. I try not to 'pick' on anyone tbh. And yes it applies to other players too. But it affected Ince's contribution more than anyone else's yesterday, so I thought I'd add my opinion.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 19, 2021 10:36:42 GMT
Id be happy if we trained our players to use one foot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 11:32:48 GMT
Yes but much easier with children. Imagine trying to write with your other hand. Eventually you can but when not practising you will always revert to your natural hand unless you have lost the use of it. Like languages if you learn as a child it is much easier to move from one to the other as both come naturally. Which is fine, but you could also argue that a player (every player) has to use their weaker foot more than a person has to use their weaker hand to write. Two-footedness should almost be a prerequisite nowadays for a good contract.
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Post by hotterpotter on Sept 19, 2021 11:35:11 GMT
Why pick on Ince? Most of the squad are very one footed. Because I'm guessing the OP was thinking of Ince when he started the thread and for me, watching him yesterday, it showed his ineffectiveness to create anything of note. I wasn't 'picking' on Ince. I try not to 'pick' on anyone tbh. And yes it applies to other players too. But it affected Ince's contribution more than anyone else's yesterday, so I thought I'd add my opinion. Not Ince especially - it's an obvious flaw in many players' games. Not saying you should be able to hit screamers or accurate 40 yard passes with both feet, but the ability to make a simple pass (or even a mediocre cross) with both feet makes a huge difference. If you are very obviously one footed it makes the defender's job so much easier.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 19, 2021 11:40:43 GMT
Yes but much easier with children. Imagine trying to write with your other hand. Eventually you can but when not practising you will always revert to your natural hand unless you have lost the use of it. Like languages if you learn as a child it is much easier to move from one to the other as both come naturally. Which is fine, but you could also argue that a player (every player) has to use their weaker foot more than a person has to use their weaker hand to write. Two-footedness should almost be a prerequisite nowadays for a good contract. I agree but as I say if you don't learn it as a child it is far less likely to be ingrained and you will always try use your stronger foot rather than the most appropriate under pressure.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 19, 2021 11:46:14 GMT
In one of the many books about George Best it placed a massive onus on his two footed ability that made him such a great player.
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 19, 2021 11:51:47 GMT
Some of our players are wank with their good foot
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 19, 2021 11:52:36 GMT
And therein lies the problem. If Ince had drive he would be doing much more to compete for a place. And strengthening his weak foot would make him far more of an option as he's so limited in that regard! Why pick on Ince? Most of the squad are very one footed. And one eyed
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 19, 2021 11:54:39 GMT
As a flying left winger in the early 90’s I was told I needed to use my left foot a lot more or I wouldn’t amount to anything. Learned pretty quickly and my left had equal accuracy to my right after a few months but with a bit less power. I never amounted to anything mind 🤨 I’ve heard you can use either hand very well at other things badger 🦡 🙌
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 11:55:57 GMT
Some of our players are wank with their good foot No just one! As for the left foot debate it begins as a child. Not saying they will be as accurate as their leading foot but the ability to be able to get off a shot or a pass with their none dominant foot is a must in todays game.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 19, 2021 12:04:25 GMT
As a flying left winger in the early 90’s I was told I needed to use my left foot a lot more or I wouldn’t amount to anything. Learned pretty quickly and my left had equal accuracy to my right after a few months but with a bit less power. I never amounted to anything mind 🤨 I’ve heard you can use either hand very well at other things badger 🦡 🙌 Also true, practice makes perfect😉
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 19, 2021 12:46:42 GMT
One of the main simple demands of a footballer is to be able use both feet. but Maradona, quite possibly the greatest ever, could hardly stand on his right. The weirdness of nogger eh?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 13:00:22 GMT
One of the main simple demands of a footballer is to be able use both feet. but Maradona, quite possibly the greatest ever, could hardly stand on his right. The weirdness of nogger eh? His left hand is even more famous, cheating little ..........!
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 19, 2021 13:03:20 GMT
It can be learned. Ryan Giggs was all left footed until about 1997. He clearly applied himself and grew into right foot usage.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 19, 2021 13:37:05 GMT
I vaguely recall that Paolo Maldini started as a right back but couldn't get a breakthrough and so trained himself to master playing with his left.
I think there was a similar story with Tom Finney, who was a right winger who couldn't get in the England d team ahead of Stan, and so transformed himself into a left winger.
Maybe I invented both of those stories, though?
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 19, 2021 13:46:15 GMT
Orient used to have a manager named Bert 'the bucket' Pavitt. If, in a training session, any player used their naturally stronger foot he made them kneel on the penalty spot and he'd throw a bucket of gravel over them. That's where the 'the bucket' component of his name derived from.
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