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Post by emretezzy on May 8, 2024 21:43:57 GMT
Even with the keepers Bursik like howler, that is all on the manager for me. Putting on a defender who was slaughtered in the 1st leg and taking your best player off deserved fuck all. What was he saving them for? Leagues done and the final is in 3 weeks. He will get everything he deserves tonight.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 8, 2024 21:44:13 GMT
Yeah it is and I just said on another post that I believe his personal desperation to win a trophy has a detrimental effect on the teams he’s playing for. I’m not naive enough to say it’s all on him but as for the Euros, I absolutely think the team needs to be led by those players who have experience of winning stuff. All he’s got to draw up on is his experience of losing and you can’t have that at elite level sport. Which English player has experience of winning stuff? Because we can take Mason Mount and Jordan Henderson to the euros but what will that help us win? Or we can take a player who has 44 goals and 11 assists in 44 appearances or just completely avoid him like the plague because he hasn't won anything. The stats that Kane has are essentially much harder to achieve than winning a trophy. Grealish, Foden, Bellingham, Walker, Stones, Trent AA, Cole Palmer, Rice and even Saka and Rashford. Ollie Watkins has had a wonderful season too.
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Post by LphPotter on May 8, 2024 21:45:44 GMT
By that logic, Socrates shouldn't have played for Brazil as never won anything Watkins is a much better option right now for England is all I’m trying to say. It’s my opinion and I’m willing to die on that hill. Kane is so desperate to put a hand on some silverware it has implications on everyone else in the team. Watkins has had a fantastic season but he’s not top international quality, you saw it in the couple of games he played, he looked lost. The only striker that comes close to Kane at the moment in the world is Haaland but Kane is a much better footballer. See his pass for Bayerns goal today.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 8, 2024 21:45:48 GMT
Which English player has experience of winning stuff? Because we can take Mason Mount and Jordan Henderson to the euros but what will that help us win? Or we can take a player who has 44 goals and 11 assists in 44 appearances or just completely avoid him like the plague because he hasn't won anything. The stats that Kane has are essentially much harder to achieve than winning a trophy. Grealish, Foden, Bellingham, Walker, Stones, Trent AA, Cole Palmer, Rice and even Saka and Rashford. Ollie Watkins has had a wonderful season too. Rashford over Kane? And Ollie Watkins is completely void in this trophy argument I see because he's had a good season despite Kane having a better one. ?? Lol??
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Post by emretezzy on May 8, 2024 21:46:40 GMT
Which English player has experience of winning stuff? Because we can take Mason Mount and Jordan Henderson to the euros but what will that help us win? Or we can take a player who has 44 goals and 11 assists in 44 appearances or just completely avoid him like the plague because he hasn't won anything. The stats that Kane has are essentially much harder to achieve than winning a trophy. Grealish, Foden, Bellingham, Walker, Stones, Trent AA, Cole Palmer, Rice and even Saka and Rashford. Ollie Watkins has had a wonderful season too. In what metric has Ollie Watkins had a wonderful season but Kane hasn't?? Some of the shit spouted on here lately is fucking mind blowing.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 8, 2024 21:48:19 GMT
Grealish, Foden, Bellingham, Walker, Stones, Trent AA, Cole Palmer, Rice and even Saka and Rashford. Ollie Watkins has had a wonderful season too. In what metric has Ollie Watkins had a wonderful season but Kane hasn't?? Some of the shit spouted on here lately is fucking mind blowing. He made an argument about trophies then threw Ollie Watkins having a good season in there like it meant something to what he originally said.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 8, 2024 21:49:10 GMT
In what metric has Ollie Watkins had a wonderful season but Kane hasn't?? Some of the shit spouted on here lately is fucking mind blowing. He made an argument about trophies then threw Ollie Watkins having a good season in there like it meant something to what he originally said. Because Ollie Watkins is clearly the striker I want playing instead of Kane. It’s really quite simple.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2024 21:49:56 GMT
Bayern's first trophyless season since 2010/11 Some coincidence that 🤣🤣
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 8, 2024 21:50:27 GMT
Grealish, Foden, Bellingham, Walker, Stones, Trent AA, Cole Palmer, Rice and even Saka and Rashford. Ollie Watkins has had a wonderful season too. In what metric has Ollie Watkins had a wonderful season but Kane hasn't?? Some of the shit spouted on here lately is fucking mind blowing. Exaxtly the same metric. But if you’re willing to go off season metrics, I’d rather have Watkins than Harry I don’t know anything but losing Kane.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 8, 2024 21:50:33 GMT
By that logic, Socrates shouldn't have played for Brazil as never won anything Watkins is a much better option right now for England is all I’m trying to say. It’s my opinion and I’m willing to die on that hill. Kane is so desperate to put a hand on some silverware it has implications on everyone else in the team. Watkins has never scored in a qualifier or in a major tournament for his country 3 goals- 1 V San Marino Not sure how that makes him a better option than a golden boot winner who is scoring for fun still . International football is a different game.
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Post by LphPotter on May 8, 2024 21:50:50 GMT
Tuchel shouldner manage Meir Park Aldi, never mind a professional football team. He’s a very good manager but he got it horribly wrong from the 75th minute onwards
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 8, 2024 21:50:51 GMT
Bayern's first trophyless season since 2010/11 Some coincidence that 🤣🤣 A-fucking-men.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 8, 2024 21:51:38 GMT
He made an argument about trophies then threw Ollie Watkins having a good season in there like it meant something to what he originally said. Because Ollie Watkins is clearly the striker I want playing instead of Kane. It’s really quite simple. Because Kane is a loser and Ollie Watkins is a winner despite both winning fuck all and one having much worse stats (Watkins) Your argument makes no sense.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 8, 2024 21:52:35 GMT
Bayern's first trophyless season since 2010/11 Some coincidence that 🤣🤣 Bore off and go and have a pint with your new mate Tommy Carlsberg.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2024 21:53:44 GMT
Bore off and go and have a pint with your new mate Tommy Carlsberg. 🤣🤣 It’s mad how defensive people get over a player that has achieved nothing.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 8, 2024 21:54:36 GMT
Because Ollie Watkins is clearly the striker I want playing instead of Kane. It’s really quite simple. Because Kane is a loser and Ollie Watkins is a winner despite both winning fuck all and one having much worse stats (Watkins) Your argument makes no sense. Because Watkins hasn’t played for Spurs and Bayern, doesn’t have the career of failures haunting him, skying penalties, losing in Euros finals.
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Post by LphPotter on May 8, 2024 21:54:42 GMT
How is Kane the one coming out of these two games being questioned and Bellingham is not. The agenda some have against him is genuinely very strange
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 8, 2024 21:55:14 GMT
Bore off and go and have a pint with your new mate Tommy Carlsberg. What cause I don’t think Harry Kane should play for England? Grow up
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2024 21:55:48 GMT
How is Kane the one coming out of these two games being questioned and Bellingham is not. The agenda some have against him is genuinely very strange No agenda. He just makes teams worse and is a loser. Bless him.
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Post by LphPotter on May 8, 2024 21:56:31 GMT
Because Kane is a loser and Ollie Watkins is a winner despite both winning fuck all and one having much worse stats (Watkins) Your argument makes no sense. Because Watkins hasn’t played for Spurs and Bayern, doesn’t have the career of failures haunting him, skying penalties, losing in Euros finals. Spurs??? They never win anything, even with Mourinho! The only club he’s not won anything at
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 8, 2024 21:56:50 GMT
I don't think I've ever seen anyone form a decent argument as to why Harry Kane is a loser other than blaming voodoo magic. Imagine picking Rashford right now over Kane just because he's won something. Imagine thinking Ryan Bertrand, Mason Mount or Djimi Traore are better players just because they've won a trophy. Mental stuff.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 8, 2024 21:56:59 GMT
How is Kane the one coming out of these two games being questioned and Bellingham is not. The agenda some have against him is genuinely very strange Yes, I’ve got my ‘agenda’ against Harry written on my bedroom wall and i memorise it every morning before I leave the house. Jesus Christ, it’s an opinion on a football player, I won’t be losing any sleep over it and nor should you.
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Post by emretezzy on May 8, 2024 21:57:24 GMT
Because Ollie Watkins is clearly the striker I want playing instead of Kane. It’s really quite simple. Because Kane is a loser and Ollie Watkins is a winner despite both winning fuck all and one having much worse stats (Watkins) Your argument makes no sense. There wasn't any metric was there. So he just said A-Men. Anyone can have a view, but it's got to be reasonable. There wouldn't be 1 manager in the whole of world football who would have Watkins over Kane. If Kane underwent a sex change and did 7 years of Testerone reversion and was still playing at 40. He'd still be better than Watkins!
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Post by emretezzy on May 8, 2024 21:59:27 GMT
I don't think I've ever seen anyone form a decent argument as to why Harry Kane is a loser other than blaming voodoo magic. Imagine picking Rashford right now over Kane just because he's won something. Imagine thinking Ryan Bertrand, Mason Mount or Djimi Traore are better players just because they've won a trophy. Mental stuff. And Lasse Sorrensen. There's a stray cat who we feed now and again who I'd rather take football takes from.
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Post by spiderpuss on May 8, 2024 21:59:28 GMT
In other news Kassam Stadium comes closer into view.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 8, 2024 22:00:27 GMT
Bore off and go and have a pint with your new mate Tommy Carlsberg. 🤣🤣 It’s mad how defensive people get over a player that has achieved nothing. A lot of his achievements will very rarely be matched and only by the worlds elite players. He will still win trophies probably even next season, but it's more the fact people want to beat him down because of personal grudges with him rather than just admitting that he is actually a very good footballer.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2024 22:01:58 GMT
🤣🤣 It’s mad how defensive people get over a player that has achieved nothing. A lot of his achievements will very rarely be matched and only by the worlds elite players. He will still win trophies probably even next season, but it's more the fact people want to beat him down because of personal grudges with him rather than just admitting that he is actually a very good footballer. He should win a trophy next season. Jesus Christ if he doesn’t he needs to see the Pope, Dalai Lama and Mohammad himself to get the black magic reversed of his massive loser tendencies!
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Post by LphPotter on May 8, 2024 22:02:52 GMT
How is Kane the one coming out of these two games being questioned and Bellingham is not. The agenda some have against him is genuinely very strange Yes, I’ve got my ‘agenda’ against Harry written on my bedroom wall and i memorise it every morning before I leave the house. Jesus Christ, it’s an opinion on a football player, I won’t be losing any sleep over it and nor should you. If the first thing that comes into your mind after Bayern lose despite Kane playing well and making the goal, before then being subbed while they were still winning, is that’s why Kane shouldn’t play for England. That’s an agenda.
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Post by senojbor on May 8, 2024 22:03:07 GMT
Watkins is a much better option right now for England is all I’m trying to say. It’s my opinion and I’m willing to die on that hill. Kane is so desperate to put a hand on some silverware it has implications on everyone else in the team. Well go say it to some 4 year old Villa kids who might listen or Bayern. Let's keep it fucking realistic. 36 goals for Bayern, Champions League Semi Final. Losing out to a team in the league who are on for an UNDERFEATED treble and a Real looking for fifteenth Champions League. Or a striker who's just lost 4-2 to a team in Greece, 4th in the league and hasn't even been close to Kane as top Premier League top scorer once. Levels in this game. Don't let it bother you, lots of trolls on the oatcake. They have nothing better to do.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 8, 2024 22:03:48 GMT
Bayern's first trophyless season since 2010/11 Some coincidence that 🤣🤣 Nice try 🙂
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