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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 17, 2024 19:42:19 GMT
They do but it's still a stupid rule, it wants binning. No need to do it, agree with the rule or not Gave the ref no option Imagine missing a final say over something like that. Come on, you've just scored the winning goal in added on time of extra time are you seriously going to think I shouldn't take my shirt off, I'!ll get sent off. Footballers aren't robots and people who criticise can never have played a sport and experienced the emotions. And yes I can understand that some Muslims find it offensive to see a bare torso but how many players are actually bare chested? I found it fascinating on holiday in Spain last year that two Muslim couples round the pool, the women covered from head to toe and the men just wearing shorts. I also remember the irony of the Islamic Sobhi scoring in two consecutive matches and being booked both times for taking off his shirt. As I commented earlier in the Leeds Millwall game, Cooper wrestled a man to the ground, used his forearm to stop a player going past him and lead with his knee into the chest of an opponent at speed after having been booked in the fifteenth minute. The referee didn't see fit to dish out a second yellow in that match. Ridiculous inconsistency
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 17, 2024 19:51:43 GMT
Players get booked enough for minor tackles and even when they don't make any contact at all, there is no need for rules like this. As soon as the match finishes often players all take their shirts off and don't get booked. What's the difference? They aren't time wasting, VAR does that for them as it checks every goal over and over again. Had he already been booked? I wasn’t really paying attention He was on a yellow already so got another one for taking his shirt off. I wonder what would happen if they had an identical shirt on underneath and then did the same celebration
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 17, 2024 19:53:02 GMT
Had he already been booked? I wasn’t really paying attention He was on a yellow already so got another one for taking his shirt off. I wonder what would happen if they had an identical shirt on underneath and then did the same celebration Did his breasts fall out?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 17, 2024 19:53:55 GMT
No need to do it, agree with the rule or not Gave the ref no option Imagine missing a final say over something like that. Come on, you've just scored the winning goal in added on time of extra time are you seriously going to think I shouldn't take my shirt off, I'!ll get sent off. Footballers aren't robots and people who criticise can never have played a sport and experienced the emotions. And yes I can understand that some Muslims find it offensive to see a bare torso but how many players are actually bare chested? I found it fascinating on holiday in Spain last year that two Muslim couples round the pool, the women covered from head to toe and the men just wearing shorts. I also remember the irony of the Islamic Sobhi scoring in two consecutive matches and being booked both times for taking off his shirt. As I commented earlier in the Leeds Millwall game, Cooper wrestled a man to the ground, used his forearm to stop a player going past him and lead with his knee into the chest of an opponent at speed after having been booked in the fifteenth minute. The referee didn't see fit to dish out a second yellow in that match. Ridiculous inconsistency Muslims eh?🤔
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 17, 2024 19:54:27 GMT
Is it me or were those FA Cup QF's 10 times better than the weekly drudgery that is the PL? Despite our result yesterday I'm still laughing about the Wolves fans doing the 'Que sera we're going to Wembley' thing at 90+4 before exiting the competition to little Cov City at 90+10 😆 The FA cup has been on the wain for years but noticed this year that some of the “bigger” teams are taking it more seriously this year. Hope it’s the start of a turnaround. Whiskey nose started the decline as I recall It’s not on free to air tv next year. Which is a colossal fuck up.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 17, 2024 19:55:31 GMT
The FA cup has been on the wain for years but noticed this year that some of the “bigger” teams are taking it more seriously this year. Hope it’s the start of a turnaround. Whiskey nose started the decline as I recall It’s not on free to air tv next year. Which is a colossal fuck up. It’s an absolute disgrace is what it is. The scum always rises to the top doesn’t it
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 17, 2024 20:21:46 GMT
He was on a yellow already so got another one for taking his shirt off. I wonder what would happen if they had an identical shirt on underneath and then did the same celebration Did his breasts fall out? He had a plain red shirt on underneath, he didn't show anything.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 17, 2024 20:25:41 GMT
Did his breasts fall out? He had a plain red shirt on underneath, he didn't show anything. Were the nipples cut out with tassles on and did somebody in the front row give him a slow and sensual blowjob?
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 17, 2024 20:29:41 GMT
He had a plain red shirt on underneath, he didn't show anything. Were the nipples cut out with tassles on and did somebody in the front row give him a slow and sensual blowjob? Yes, but that's irrelevant
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 17, 2024 20:30:17 GMT
Were the nipples cut out with tassles on and did somebody in the front row give him a slow and sensual blowjob? Yes, but that's irrelevant Nah I wouldn’t have booked him for that either It’s a pathetic rule and I’m not sure what it’s supposed to achieve other than the opportunity for the ref to be front of stage
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 17, 2024 20:31:14 GMT
Had he already been booked? I wasn’t really paying attention He was on a yellow already so got another one for taking his shirt off. I wonder what would happen if they had an identical shirt on underneath and then did the same celebration Good bloody question. That's the solution. Wear 2 bloody shirts. Fucked if you get a brace or hat trick though 😆
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 17, 2024 20:44:40 GMT
He’s another one that can’t stand losing
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 17, 2024 20:54:27 GMT
He’s another one that can’t stand losing After a game his team dominated he’s bound to be pissed off
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 17, 2024 20:55:03 GMT
He was on a yellow already so got another one for taking his shirt off. I wonder what would happen if they had an identical shirt on underneath and then did the same celebration Good bloody question. That's the solution. Wear 2 bloody shirts. Fucked if you get a brace or hat trick though 😆 They could be like that idiot who won Britains got talent who wore a load of high viz vests dancing around whilst taking them off
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 17, 2024 20:58:58 GMT
Good bloody question. That's the solution. Wear 2 bloody shirts. Fucked if you get a brace or hat trick though 😆 They could be like that idiot who won Britains got talent who wore a load of high viz vests dancing around whilst taking them off Should take their shorts of instead, the refs would be a tailspin
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 17, 2024 21:00:57 GMT
He’s another one that can’t stand losing I don't mind Klopp. But you have to have some class when you're the gaffer. Deal with it chief, you lost to a weaker team. It happens. That's the beauty of football...
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 17, 2024 21:05:17 GMT
Had he already been booked? I wasn’t really paying attention He was on a yellow already so got another one for taking his shirt off. I wonder what would happen if they had an identical shirt on underneath and then did the same celebration Good idea. Cynical me makes me think it's because it deprives the main shirt sponsor of airtime. Maybe it's Diego Forlan's fault:
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 17, 2024 21:11:01 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 17, 2024 21:14:33 GMT
He was on a yellow already so got another one for taking his shirt off. I wonder what would happen if they had an identical shirt on underneath and then did the same celebration Good idea. Cynical me makes me think it's because it deprives the main shirt sponsor of airtime. Maybe it's Diego Forlan's fault: You don't need to be cynical that is the official reason courtesy of Sepp Blatter
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Post by gawa on Mar 17, 2024 23:27:20 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 17, 2024 23:45:59 GMT
Good idea. Cynical me makes me think it's because it deprives the main shirt sponsor of airtime. Maybe it's Diego Forlan's fault: You don't need to be cynical that is the official reason courtesy of Sepp Blatter Folan came back on the pitch without the refs permission that game also which is bookable. The rule is there and why players insist on doing it have no idea no matter what you think of the rule .
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 18, 2024 8:13:09 GMT
He’s another one that can’t stand losing He's so dislikeable. One of the most distasteful, bitter, nastiest managers in the leagues history and yet the media (who he despises and continuously abuses) claim they love him.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 18, 2024 8:59:28 GMT
No need to do it, agree with the rule or not Gave the ref no option Imagine missing a final say over something like that. Come on, you've just scored the winning goal in added on time of extra time are you seriously going to think I shouldn't take my shirt off, I'!ll get sent off. Footballers aren't robots and people who criticise can never have played a sport and experienced the emotions. And yes I can understand that some Muslims find it offensive to see a bare torso but how many players are actually bare chested? I found it fascinating on holiday in Spain last year that two Muslim couples round the pool, the women covered from head to toe and the men just wearing shorts. I also remember the irony of the Islamic Sobhi scoring in two consecutive matches and being booked both times for taking off his shirt. As I commented earlier in the Leeds Millwall game, Cooper wrestled a man to the ground, used his forearm to stop a player going past him and lead with his knee into the chest of an opponent at speed after having been booked in the fifteenth minute. The referee didn't see fit to dish out a second yellow in that match. Ridiculous inconsistency Why weren't they doing it decades before? a craze really started in the 90s Nothing to do with not being robots. For 100 plus years players were scoring goals late on etc and managed not to join in What have Muslims got to do with it?
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 18, 2024 10:17:40 GMT
Come on, you've just scored the winning goal in added on time of extra time are you seriously going to think I shouldn't take my shirt off, I'!ll get sent off. Footballers aren't robots and people who criticise can never have played a sport and experienced the emotions. And yes I can understand that some Muslims find it offensive to see a bare torso but how many players are actually bare chested? I found it fascinating on holiday in Spain last year that two Muslim couples round the pool, the women covered from head to toe and the men just wearing shorts. I also remember the irony of the Islamic Sobhi scoring in two consecutive matches and being booked both times for taking off his shirt. As I commented earlier in the Leeds Millwall game, Cooper wrestled a man to the ground, used his forearm to stop a player going past him and lead with his knee into the chest of an opponent at speed after having been booked in the fifteenth minute. The referee didn't see fit to dish out a second yellow in that match. Ridiculous inconsistency Why weren't they doing it decades before? a craze really started in the 90s Nothing to do with not being robots. For 100 plus years players were scoring goals late on etc and managed not to join in What have Muslims got to do with it? We live in an era when showing emotion especially for men is more acceptable and the media has made these occasions far more tense. I can remember being at football matches in the 70's with no idea where Stoke were in the League table apart from a rough top, middle, bottom. Everything has become far more pressurised and I find it difficult to imagine that that young kid could have even thought about getting a booking when he took off his shirt. I don't know what his first booking was for but for one moment of utter elation, probably fulfilling a childhood dream he gets a one match suspension whereas there were players yesterday, I highlighted Millwall's Cooper but there would be others, who committed three cynical fouls which could have resulted in injury to an opponent and came off the field with one yellow which is meaningless at this stage of the season unless you are Pearson. One of the reason given for introducing the booking I am sure was that it caused offence to Muslims because they don't think you should bare your torso in public. The rule says something along the lines of orchestrated celebrations should receive a yellow in which case that should not have been a booking as it was absolutely spontaneous. I have seen far more orchestrated celebrations allowed to pass completely - the robot dance by one Mr Crouch was not orchestrated?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 18, 2024 10:25:53 GMT
Why weren't they doing it decades before? a craze really started in the 90s Nothing to do with not being robots. For 100 plus years players were scoring goals late on etc and managed not to join in What have Muslims got to do with it? We live in an era when showing emotion especially for men is more acceptable and the media has made these occasions far more tense. I can remember being at football matches in the 70's with no idea where Stoke were in the League table apart from a rough top, middle, bottom. Everything has become far more pressurised and I find it difficult to imagine that that young kid could have even thought about getting a booking when he took off his shirt. I don't know what his first booking was for but for one moment of utter elation, probably fulfilling a childhood dream he gets a one match suspension whereas there were players yesterday, I highlighted Millwall's Cooper but there would be others, who committed three cynical fouls which could have resulted in injury to an opponent and came off the field with one yellow which is meaningless at this stage of the season unless you are Pearson. One of the reason given for introducing the booking I am sure was that it caused offence to Muslims because they don't think you should bare your torso in public. Now the rule says something along the lines of orchestrated celebrations should receive a yellow in which case that should not have been a booking as it was absolutely spontaneous. I have seen far more orchestrated celebrations allowed to pass completely - the robot dance by one Mr Crouch was not orchestrated? Is like saying any emotion on the football pitch Don't retaliate or you'll be carded etc The rule is you don't remove your shirt or you'll be booked. You don't put your shirt over your head. You don't celebrate over the perimeter. Rules you simply have to learn to follow on the pitch, football is an emotional game I agree but doesn't make you exempt from the laws , like them or not I just don't see why it's something that has crept into the game. The slogans on T shirt thing, the pointing at the sky all celebrations that didn't exist 20 years ago At least we don't have long haired men kissing like in the 70s. When football was football according to some
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 18, 2024 10:45:00 GMT
We live in an era when showing emotion especially for men is more acceptable and the media has made these occasions far more tense. I can remember being at football matches in the 70's with no idea where Stoke were in the League table apart from a rough top, middle, bottom. Everything has become far more pressurised and I find it difficult to imagine that that young kid could have even thought about getting a booking when he took off his shirt. I don't know what his first booking was for but for one moment of utter elation, probably fulfilling a childhood dream he gets a one match suspension whereas there were players yesterday, I highlighted Millwall's Cooper but there would be others, who committed three cynical fouls which could have resulted in injury to an opponent and came off the field with one yellow which is meaningless at this stage of the season unless you are Pearson. One of the reason given for introducing the booking I am sure was that it caused offence to Muslims because they don't think you should bare your torso in public. Now the rule says something along the lines of orchestrated celebrations should receive a yellow in which case that should not have been a booking as it was absolutely spontaneous. I have seen far more orchestrated celebrations allowed to pass completely - the robot dance by one Mr Crouch was not orchestrated? Is like saying any emotion on the football pitch Don't retaliate or you'll be carded etc The rule is you don't remove your shirt or you'll be booked. You don't put your shirt over your head. You don't celebrate over the perimeter. Rules you simply have to learn to follow on the pitch, football is an emotional game I agree but doesn't make you exempt from the laws , like them or not I just don't see why it's something that has crept into the game. The slogans on T shirt thing, the pointing at the sky all celebrations that didn't exist 20 years ago At least we don't have long haired men kissing like in the 70s. When football was football according to some Isn't it also the rule that if you challenge for the ball with no regard for the safety of your opponent you should at least receive a yellow but the ref of the Leeds Millwall game seemed to think jumping into a challenge with your knee leading straight into the chest wasn't even a foul. To me offending some fans is far less important than perhaps putting someone in hospital. Nobody jumps with their knee in front. Anyway the rule doesn't actually say taking off your shirt is a cardable offence just that orchestrated or preplanned celebrations should be carded because they waste time. In that case most celebrations waste time with players celebrating in front of their own or even rival fans. How is running to the crowd any better than removing your shirt in terms of time wasting and far more likely to cause crowd trouble. As with most referees he was just an attention seeking official who has never played a sport and couldn't wait to upstage a player who had stolen the limelight. I imagine that if Diallo scores the winning goal in the same way in the semi final or final he would still do the same and I wouldn't blame him. I love to see the emotion. It was almost as good as seeing the young Man Utd fan in tears in the celebrations.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 18, 2024 10:54:49 GMT
Is like saying any emotion on the football pitch Don't retaliate or you'll be carded etc The rule is you don't remove your shirt or you'll be booked. You don't put your shirt over your head. You don't celebrate over the perimeter. Rules you simply have to learn to follow on the pitch, football is an emotional game I agree but doesn't make you exempt from the laws , like them or not I just don't see why it's something that has crept into the game. The slogans on T shirt thing, the pointing at the sky all celebrations that didn't exist 20 years ago At least we don't have long haired men kissing like in the 70s. When football was football according to some Isn't it also the rule that if you challenge for the ball with no regard for the safety of your opponent you should at least receive a yellow but the ref of the Leeds Millwall game seemed to think jumping into a challenge with your knee leading straight into the chest wasn't even a foul. To me offending some fans is far less important than perhaps putting someone in hospital. Nobody jumps with their knee in front. Anyway the rule doesn't actually say taking off your shirt is a cardable offence just that orchestrated or preplanned celebrations should be carded because they waste time. In that case most celebrations waste time with players celebrating in front of their own or even rival fans. How is running to the crowd any better than removing your shirt in terms of time wasting and far more likely to cause crowd trouble. As with most referees he was just an attention seeking official who has never played a sport and couldn't wait to upstage a player who had stolen the limelight. I imagine that if Diallo scores the winning goal in the same way in the semi final or final he would still do the same and I wouldn't blame him. I love to see the emotion. It was almost as good as seeing the young Man Utd fan in tears in the celebrations. Actually that's not true. Excessive celebration is a bookable offence and removing your shirt is listed in the rules as an example. Is absolutely nothing to do with a ref seeking attention , is a ref applying the laws which he is there to do. He can't ignore them. If a player challenges another player in another games it doesn't change the fact that the ref has to book him for removing his shirt . If he let him stay on the pitch and ignored the laws then what?
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Post by jokker on Mar 18, 2024 11:04:19 GMT
He’s another one that can’t stand losing After a game his team dominated he’s bound to be pissed off Maybe, but it's personal. It's not the first time he has vented his bad losing at that particular Danish reporter. He usually has Jan Molby standing next, which makes Klopp look a little stupid, as Molby of course a) knows what it's all about b) Is a diehard Liverpudljan c) that makes two more won't be sorry to see Klopp lose.
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 18, 2024 11:09:10 GMT
Isn't it also the rule that if you challenge for the ball with no regard for the safety of your opponent you should at least receive a yellow but the ref of the Leeds Millwall game seemed to think jumping into a challenge with your knee leading straight into the chest wasn't even a foul. To me offending some fans is far less important than perhaps putting someone in hospital. Nobody jumps with their knee in front. Anyway the rule doesn't actually say taking off your shirt is a cardable offence just that orchestrated or preplanned celebrations should be carded because they waste time. In that case most celebrations waste time with players celebrating in front of their own or even rival fans. How is running to the crowd any better than removing your shirt in terms of time wasting and far more likely to cause crowd trouble. As with most referees he was just an attention seeking official who has never played a sport and couldn't wait to upstage a player who had stolen the limelight. I imagine that if Diallo scores the winning goal in the same way in the semi final or final he would still do the same and I wouldn't blame him. I love to see the emotion. It was almost as good as seeing the young Man Utd fan in tears in the celebrations. Actually that's not true. Excessive celebration is a bookable offence and removing your shirt is listed in the rules as an example. Is absolutely nothing to do with a ref seeking attention , is a ref applying the laws which he is there to do. He can't ignore them. If a player challenges another player in another games it doesn't change the fact that the ref has to book him for removing his shirt . If he let him stay on the pitch and ignored the laws then what? Who decides what excessive celebration is? For me if the conceding team are lined up ready for kick off but the scoring team are still celebrating in front of their fans that is excessive and yet you will never see players booked even if the ref tries to hurry them up and is usually ignored. Should a player be given more time to celebrate a winning goal or less because the opposition need to get on with trying to equalise. Is a player running from defence past all the opposing team to join in celebrations not excessive? A rule without substance and so open to interpretation leads to referees booking a player for taking off his shirt because that is black and white but leaving other celebrations unpunished. By the letter of the law you can't argue but you can question the veracity of the law.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 18, 2024 17:27:18 GMT
He’s another one that can’t stand losing He's so dislikeable. One of the most distasteful, bitter, nastiest managers in the leagues history and yet the media (who he despises and continuously abuses) claim they love him. Liked him when he first came over but cant be doing with him now for the reasons you state Whether you like Man Utd or not, Ten Haag is much more likeable and I was glad they won yesterday
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