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Post by lordb on Nov 20, 2023 20:47:22 GMT
Just counting back I can see they’ve only won 6 in their last 21 games. Some run for a supposed super power I wouldn't bet against them reaching at least the semis in their home tournament. I wouldn't bet against them not getting out of their group either If they do well they will have to score lots of goals
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 20, 2023 20:56:27 GMT
I wouldn't bet against them reaching at least the semis in their home tournament. I wouldn't bet against them not getting out of their group either If they do well they will have to score lots of goals Yeah true . Anything can happen. But home advantage will be more significant than normal
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Post by lordb on Nov 20, 2023 20:58:11 GMT
I wouldn't bet against them not getting out of their group either If they do well they will have to score lots of goals Yeah true . Anything can happen. But home advantage will be more significant than normal Why?
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 20, 2023 21:08:15 GMT
Yeah true . Anything can happen. But home advantage will be more significant than normal Why? Because Germany is a big nogger nation and the energy and momentum will be very helpful.
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Post by lordb on Nov 20, 2023 21:09:56 GMT
Because Germany is a big nogger nation and the energy and momentum will be very helpful. So why is that different to other tournaments?
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Post by lordb on Nov 20, 2023 21:16:12 GMT
N Ireland beating Denmark
Ukraine Italy still 0.0 Ukraine need to win
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Post by lordb on Nov 20, 2023 21:28:33 GMT
NI 2 up now Denmark struggled v San Marino recently they have dropped off a lot since the last Euros
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Post by noustie on Nov 20, 2023 21:37:56 GMT
Ukraine player clipped in the box - not even looked at by VAR.
It's an absolute farce.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 20, 2023 21:39:09 GMT
Ukraine player clipped in the box - not even looked at by VAR. It's an absolute farce. How the fuck wasn't that a peno? Insanity!
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Post by noustie on Nov 20, 2023 21:47:44 GMT
Ukraine player clipped in the box - not even looked at by VAR. It's an absolute farce. How the fuck wasn't that a peno? Insanity! 'Oh shit it'll knock Italy out - pretend we're watching I'm A Celebrity!'
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 20, 2023 23:25:21 GMT
Because Germany is a big nogger nation and the energy and momentum will be very helpful. So why is that different to other tournaments? Because within them Germany have the capacity to do well despite being a poor side. 2006 they reached the semi when they were in disarray prior to it. That was hosts feelgoood factor driving them on.
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Post by noustie on Nov 21, 2023 7:48:14 GMT
Not even referred to VAR! My issue is can't help suspect if Italy needed a goal to qualify and this happens in the last 5 minutes its given all day long.
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Post by jokker on Nov 21, 2023 10:58:02 GMT
NI 2 up now Denmark struggled v San Marino recently they have dropped off a lot since the last Euros It's very disappointing of course. Bizarrely it's the same group of players, apart from from the addition of Højlund when he isn't injured. When fit he's very good, not like what you see at Manure. With the exception of Schmeichel who's 37, all the players should be in the prime of their years and doing even better than in the last Euros. But they're very inconsistent and frankly don't seem to care whether they lose or not - of course they'll deny that, but performances don't lie. The problem is probably that we just have this group of 12-14 decent players, so, even when they do badly, they will still be selected again and again.
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Post by Northy on Nov 21, 2023 14:58:35 GMT
Not even referred to VAR! My issue is can't help suspect if Italy needed a goal to qualify and this happens in the last 5 minutes its given all day long. First time I've seen it, and it looks a clear penalty, have they kicked up a fuss about it not been given or reviewed?
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Post by bingbang on Nov 21, 2023 15:07:02 GMT
Not even referred to VAR! My issue is can't help suspect if Italy needed a goal to qualify and this happens in the last 5 minutes its given all day long. First time I've seen it, and it looks a clear penalty, have they kicked up a fuss about it not been given or reviewed? Gets worse than this. At the weekend Ceferin ( head of eufa ) said the tournament would not be the same without the Italians and he was 100 percent sure they would get the points they needed in the game against Eukraine. 🤔
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 21, 2023 21:50:51 GMT
FT: Palestine 0 Australia 1 (Harry Souttar 18 mins).
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Post by dirtclod on Nov 21, 2023 21:53:00 GMT
It was a damned penalty.
Even to the unclear and unobvious.
I must shut my cake hole now as the Boston Lager will start to talk.
And all who sailed in her!!! Damned legs! Always the first to go.
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Post by bigvern on Nov 21, 2023 22:13:54 GMT
Just noticed that Austria beat Germany 2-0 in the Adolf derby. The Germans are really struggling at the minute.
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Post by Veritas on Nov 21, 2023 22:28:07 GMT
First time I've seen it, and it looks a clear penalty, have they kicked up a fuss about it not been given or reviewed? Gets worse than this. At the weekend Ceferin ( head of eufa ) said the tournament would not be the same without the Italians and he was 100 percent sure they would get the points they needed in the game against Eukraine. 🤔 To be fair I can see why the ref might not have given it but VAR no way.
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Post by BuzzB on Nov 21, 2023 23:12:56 GMT
First time I've seen it, and it looks a clear penalty, have they kicked up a fuss about it not been given or reviewed? Gets worse than this. At the weekend Ceferin ( head of eufa ) said the tournament would not be the same without the Italians and he was 100 percent sure they would get the points they needed in the game against Eukraine. 🤔 We have all read about corruption in football, Italy are probably bigger culprits than anyone. I always believed the British game was as honest as the day is long. My mind is changing. In Europe it must be bloody rife! The scandalous decisions this past week alone are truly shocking, tonight, Wales game, Johnson gets mauled two arms around him to the ground, as big a penalty as you would see, not given. Up the other end, the slightest touch on a Turk and its a pen. VAR not even looking at Kanes, I could go on. Its ever likely people are falling out of love with the game. Roll on Satdee
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2023 0:37:46 GMT
Big disturbances at Brazil v Argentina. There's people throwing things who shouldn't be
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 22, 2023 3:08:02 GMT
Big disturbances at Brazil v Argentina. There's people throwing things who shouldn't be ARG win to condemn BRA to a third straight WC quals defeat When was the last time that happened…..
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2023 6:56:06 GMT
Big disturbances at Brazil v Argentina. There's people throwing things who shouldn't be ARG win to condemn BRA to a third straight WC quals defeat When was the last time that happened….. They laboured to qualify for 2002 but I doubt it was that bad. Argentina were worthy winners today. Brazil's attempts to equalise reminded me of Stoke in 2017/18 season
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 22, 2023 7:32:45 GMT
Still seems nearly impossible for Brazil not to qualify even with only 7 points from 6 games.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2023 8:01:16 GMT
Still seems nearly impossible for Brazil not to qualify even with only 7 points from 6 games. The increase to 48 teams reduces stress.
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Post by lordb on Nov 22, 2023 8:35:30 GMT
Just noticed that Austria beat Germany 2-0 in the Adolf derby. The Germans are really struggling at the minute. They arw Austria are a decent side atm Would want to avoid them happy to play Germany
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 22, 2023 10:54:14 GMT
ARG win to condemn BRA to a third straight WC quals defeat When was the last time that happened….. They laboured to qualify for 2002 but I doubt it was that bad. Argentina were worthy winners today. Brazil's attempts to equalise reminded me of Stoke in 2017/18 season I understand it’s actually the first time BRA have *ever* been beaten at home in the qualos, which is pretty incredible
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2023 12:44:36 GMT
They laboured to qualify for 2002 but I doubt it was that bad. Argentina were worthy winners today. Brazil's attempts to equalise reminded me of Stoke in 2017/18 season I understand it’s actually the first time BRA have *ever* been beaten at home in the qualos, which is pretty incredible That's mind boggling. So it's a piece of history.
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Post by zommbee on Nov 22, 2023 12:53:04 GMT
An eventful game for Jamaica away to Canada in Toronto last night with Daniel Johnson playing the full game. It was the second leg of the CONCACAF Nations League Quarter Final, Canada having won the first leg in Kingston 2-1 last Saturday. Jamaica came from 1-0 down on the night to win the tie 3-2 with a late penalty scored by Bobby DeCordova-Reid of Fulham, they held on despite going down to 10 men when Demarai Gray was sent off. With the aggregate score 4-4 Jamaica go through on away goals. Johnson will now probably play in the Nations League finals in Texas during March and in next summers Copa America which is taking place in the USA at the same time as the Euro Finals.
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Post by zommbee on Nov 22, 2023 13:09:14 GMT
Just noticed that Austria beat Germany 2-0 in the Adolf derby. The Germans are really struggling at the minute. They arw Austria are a decent side atm Would want to avoid them happy to play Germany England can't get Germany in the group stage draw, could draw Austria though. Pot One: Germany Portugal France Spain Belgium England Pot Two: Hungary Turkiye Romania Denmark Albania Austria Pot Three: Netherlands Scotland Croatia Slovenia Slovakia Czechia Pot Four: Italy Serbia Switzerland plus 3 play off winners Some potential tricky groups with those pots.
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