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Sept 8, 2021 18:49:16 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 8, 2021 18:49:16 GMT
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Sept 8, 2021 18:52:50 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 8, 2021 18:52:50 GMT
Usually with one hand ✋😉
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 8, 2021 19:14:06 GMT
Another one that passed the fit and proper test?
Don't worry, FFP will stop anything happening to them...
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Oldham
Sept 8, 2021 19:44:45 GMT
Post by wuzza on Sept 8, 2021 19:44:45 GMT
The EFL really wouldn’t have to worry about salary caps and accounting techniques if it could just get its fit and proper ownership tests correct !
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Oldham
Sept 8, 2021 22:22:32 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 22:22:32 GMT
Another one that passed the fit and proper test?Don't worry, FFP will stop anything happening to them... And why wouldn't he. A legit businessman with the funds to clear the debts and buy the club. How could anyone foresee how he or any owner will run a club? Easy to be a wise ass 4 years later
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Sept 9, 2021 10:33:32 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 9, 2021 10:33:32 GMT
Another one that passed the fit and proper test?Don't worry, FFP will stop anything happening to them... And why wouldn't he. A legit businessman with the funds to clear the debts and buy the club. How could anyone foresee how he or any owner will run a club? Easy to be a wise ass 4 years later He bought the ground excluding 1 stand, which considering he supposedly made bis money being a football agent is a bit worrying, if you listen to the Anthony Gerrard under the cosh interview when he talks about Oldham its clear he should be nowhere near a football club as he hasnt got a clue, no idea what his motives are.
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Oldham
Sept 9, 2021 12:05:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 12:05:17 GMT
Perhaps they shouldn’t invade the pitch and give the owner the excuse to ban them?
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Sept 9, 2021 12:17:05 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 9, 2021 12:17:05 GMT
And why wouldn't he. A legit businessman with the funds to clear the debts and buy the club. How could anyone foresee how he or any owner will run a club? Easy to be a wise ass 4 years later He bought the ground excluding 1 stand, which considering he supposedly made bis money being a football agent is a bit worrying, if you listen to the Anthony Gerrard under the cosh interview when he talks about Oldham its clear he should be nowhere near a football club as he hasnt got a clue, no idea what his motives are. There's lots of other stuff aswell. I work with a ST holder at Oldham, who has a family member who is/was a shareholder, and some of the things he's told me that he's heard are quite strange to say the least. I would have mentioned the ST holder earlier, but I know how it triggers the children on here.... 😁
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 9, 2021 12:38:22 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 9, 2021 12:45:33 GMT
He bought the ground excluding 1 stand, which considering he supposedly made bis money being a football agent is a bit worrying, if you listen to the Anthony Gerrard under the cosh interview when he talks about Oldham its clear he should be nowhere near a football club as he hasnt got a clue, no idea what his motives are. There's lots of other stuff aswell. I work with a ST holder at Oldham, who has a family member who is/was a shareholder, and some of the things he's told me that he's heard are quite strange to say the least. I would have mentioned the ST holder earlier, but I know how it triggers the children on here.... 😁 It all seems a bit odd not sure what his angle is or why he appears to be launder sorry funding a club he has no connection with and little realistic chance of getting his money back nevermind making a profit on, just hope they dont end up like Bury or Macclesfield.
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Oldham
Sept 9, 2021 12:48:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 12:48:52 GMT
And why wouldn't he. A legit businessman with the funds to clear the debts and buy the club. How could anyone foresee how he or any owner will run a club? Easy to be a wise ass 4 years later He bought the ground excluding 1 stand, which considering he supposedly made bis money being a football agent is a bit worrying, if you listen to the Anthony Gerrard under the cosh interview when he talks about Oldham its clear he should be nowhere near a football club as he hasnt got a clue, no idea what his motives are. I think many assume that football agents are spivs and a bit dodgy. Maybe the Eric Halls of this world give that impression but he has been involved in football including representing Oldham players so perhaps he has more reason to be near a football club than someone from outside the game. Oldham had debts of around 700k which at the time had them in serious trouble and whilst it might not seem a lot to us he saved the club at the time from serious financial issues and worse. He hasn't exactly endeared himself to the fans but that's the risk with any new owner in any walk of life but at the same time saved them in a sense although just temporarily patching up cracks in the long run with hindsight. Like I said, is easy to be a smart arse after the event as someone was trying to do with owners but not all are going to take clubs forward , those who do seem to get less attention. Sounds an odd thing to say but they are in a better position than in 2017 although not a great boast. Was no more than a temporary fix but a fix.
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Sept 9, 2021 13:35:18 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 9, 2021 13:35:18 GMT
He bought the ground excluding 1 stand, which considering he supposedly made bis money being a football agent is a bit worrying, if you listen to the Anthony Gerrard under the cosh interview when he talks about Oldham its clear he should be nowhere near a football club as he hasnt got a clue, no idea what his motives are. I think many assume that football agents are spivs and a bit dodgy. Maybe the Eric Halls of this world give that impression but he has been involved in football including representing Oldham players so perhaps he has more reason to be near a football club than someone from outside the game. Oldham had debts of around 700k which at the time had them in serious trouble and whilst it might not seem a lot to us he saved the club at the time from serious financial issues and worse. He hasn't exactly endeared himself to the fans but that's the risk with any new owner in any walk of life but at the same time saved them in a sense although just temporarily patching up cracks in the long run with hindsight. Like I said, is easy to be a smart arse after the event as someone was trying to do with owners but not all are going to take clubs forward , those who do seem to get less attention. Sounds an odd thing to say but they are in a better position than in 2017 although not a great boast. Was no more than a temporary fix but a fix. I think you should read up a bit more on him, even if you ignore them being second bottom and looking likely to be relegated the idea he has put them in a better position is bat shit crazy, there's an article in the sun from last year about how he has increased the wage bill from £1.5m to £3.3m, his brother is / was the sporting director, some of the signings and rumoured wages are "interesting" The same article also outlines a dispute with the previous owners, he doesnt own the land around the ground, doesnt own the ground and seemingly couldn't understand why he has to pay £100k a year rent to the previous owners when they paid no rent for the ground as they owned it........ At best he is a muppet who got mugged off at worst who knows.
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Post by armitage on Sept 9, 2021 13:58:38 GMT
He bought the ground excluding 1 stand, which considering he supposedly made bis money being a football agent is a bit worrying, if you listen to the Anthony Gerrard under the cosh interview when he talks about Oldham its clear he should be nowhere near a football club as he hasnt got a clue, no idea what his motives are. I think many assume that football agents are spivs and a bit dodgy. Maybe the Eric Halls of this world give that impression but he has been involved in football including representing Oldham players so perhaps he has more reason to be near a football club than someone from outside the game. Oldham had debts of around 700k which at the time had them in serious trouble and whilst it might not seem a lot to us he saved the club at the time from serious financial issues and worse. He hasn't exactly endeared himself to the fans but that's the risk with any new owner in any walk of life but at the same time saved them in a sense although just temporarily patching up cracks in the long run with hindsight. Like I said, is easy to be a smart arse after the event as someone was trying to do with owners but not all are going to take clubs forward , those who do seem to get less attention. Sounds an odd thing to say but they are in a better position than in 2017 although not a great boast. Was no more than a temporary fix but a fix. Is there a word in the English language that conjures up such an array of unwholesome emotions as the word 'spiv'. 1940s, gaslight, back alley, dirty raincoat, brown envellopes, a vulnerable girl with a bruised eye ..... All the clichés......
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Oldham
Sept 9, 2021 14:15:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 14:15:20 GMT
I think many assume that football agents are spivs and a bit dodgy. Maybe the Eric Halls of this world give that impression but he has been involved in football including representing Oldham players so perhaps he has more reason to be near a football club than someone from outside the game. Oldham had debts of around 700k which at the time had them in serious trouble and whilst it might not seem a lot to us he saved the club at the time from serious financial issues and worse. He hasn't exactly endeared himself to the fans but that's the risk with any new owner in any walk of life but at the same time saved them in a sense although just temporarily patching up cracks in the long run with hindsight. Like I said, is easy to be a smart arse after the event as someone was trying to do with owners but not all are going to take clubs forward , those who do seem to get less attention. Sounds an odd thing to say but they are in a better position than in 2017 although not a great boast. Was no more than a temporary fix but a fix. I think you should read up a bit more on him, even if you ignore them being second bottom and looking likely to be relegated the idea he has put them in a better position is bat shit crazy, there's an article in the sun from last year about how he has increased the wage bill from £1.5m to £3.3m, his brother is / was the sporting director, some of the signings and rumoured wages are "interesting" The same article also outlines a dispute with the previous owners, he doesnt own the land around the ground, doesnt own the ground and seemingly couldn't understand why he has to pay £100k a year rent to the previous owners when they paid no rent for the ground as they owned it........ At best he is a muppet who got mugged off at worst who knows. I don't need to read up on him. My sister's husband an Oldham fan and like he says there may have been no club without him although still in a huge mess. He tried to improve them over night and yes he did increase the wage bill, often what happens when you bring in better players. His family have been involved in football most of their lives so why would his brother being on the staff be a problem? Your basing too much on assumptions. Do you seriously think he didn't know basic rental agreements? Be realisruc. Like I said, better position as the club were about to literally go to the wall in 2017.
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Oldham
Sept 9, 2021 14:43:53 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 9, 2021 14:43:53 GMT
I think many assume that football agents are spivs and a bit dodgy. Maybe the Eric Halls of this world give that impression but he has been involved in football including representing Oldham players so perhaps he has more reason to be near a football club than someone from outside the game. Oldham had debts of around 700k which at the time had them in serious trouble and whilst it might not seem a lot to us he saved the club at the time from serious financial issues and worse. He hasn't exactly endeared himself to the fans but that's the risk with any new owner in any walk of life but at the same time saved them in a sense although just temporarily patching up cracks in the long run with hindsight. Like I said, is easy to be a smart arse after the event as someone was trying to do with owners but not all are going to take clubs forward , those who do seem to get less attention. Sounds an odd thing to say but they are in a better position than in 2017 although not a great boast. Was no more than a temporary fix but a fix. I think you should read up a bit more on him, even if you ignore them being second bottom and looking likely to be relegated the idea he has put them in a better position is bat shit crazy, there's an article in the sun from last year about how he has increased the wage bill from £1.5m to £3.3m, his brother is / was the sporting director, some of the signings and rumoured wages are "interesting" The same article also outlines a dispute with the previous owners, he doesnt own the land around the ground, doesnt own the ground and seemingly couldn't understand why he has to pay £100k a year rent to the previous owners when they paid no rent for the ground as they owned it........ At best he is a muppet who got mugged off at worst who knows. Yep. Meddled in team selection several times and banned critical signs and banners at games as well. He's an arsehole.
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Sept 9, 2021 16:58:26 GMT
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Post by stokefc on Sept 9, 2021 16:58:26 GMT
I hope the fans invade the pitch every home game so long as it's peaceful after all if there is no fans there's no club
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Oldham
Sept 9, 2021 18:03:58 GMT
Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 9, 2021 18:03:58 GMT
Real shame if they go the same way as Bury
Was always a good away trip in the 90s/early 2000s
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Oldham
Sept 21, 2021 19:42:21 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Sept 21, 2021 19:42:21 GMT
Not going great, is it?
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Sept 21, 2021 19:46:53 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 21, 2021 19:46:53 GMT
Some very good goals but their defending has been woeful
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Sept 21, 2021 19:50:16 GMT
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Post by yyy on Sept 21, 2021 19:50:16 GMT
Was just going to post they're getting slapped 5-0 at HT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 21, 2021 20:35:23 GMT
Currently 7-0 down.
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Oldham
Sept 21, 2021 20:42:56 GMT
Post by tejstokie on Sept 21, 2021 20:42:56 GMT
Yeesh
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Sept 21, 2021 20:57:40 GMT
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Post by outspaced on Sept 21, 2021 20:57:40 GMT
Imagine being a fan of Oldham right now or over the last half a century. I did some googling and found some surprising stats.
Oldham haven't been promoted for 30 years when they reached the top flight and they've only been promoted twice in the last 48 years when they went up to what is now the Championship where they spent 17 years before the 91 promotion. They were relegated from the newly formed Premier League in 94 and dropped into the 3rd tier not long after. There they spent 21 seasons!!!!! Then relegated to League 2 and now look like heading for the National League.
Apart from that spell under Joe Royle for 3-4 years It's been a pretty grim existence supporting the Latics.
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Sept 21, 2021 21:08:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 21:08:40 GMT
Imagine being a fan of Oldham right now or over the last half a century. I did some googling and found some surprising stats. Oldham haven't been promoted for 30 years when they reached the top flight and they've only been promoted twice in the last 48 years when they went up to what is now the Championship where they spent 17 years before the 91 promotion. They were relegated from the newly formed Premier League in 94 and dropped into the 3rd tier not long after. There they spent 21 seasons!!!!! Then relegated to League 2 and now look like heading for the National League. Apart from that spell under Joe Royle for 3-4 years It's been a pretty grim existence supporting the Latics. They aren’t exactly a big club though are they? Just one of many small clubs with similar histories. They do suffer from their position in the country though, so many teams around there to support.
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Sept 21, 2021 21:56:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 21:56:39 GMT
Imagine being a fan of Oldham right now or over the last half a century. I did some googling and found some surprising stats. Oldham haven't been promoted for 30 years when they reached the top flight and they've only been promoted twice in the last 48 years when they went up to what is now the Championship where they spent 17 years before the 91 promotion. They were relegated from the newly formed Premier League in 94 and dropped into the 3rd tier not long after. There they spent 21 seasons!!!!! Then relegated to League 2 and now look like heading for the National League. Apart from that spell under Joe Royle for 3-4 years It's been a pretty grim existence supporting the Latics. They aren’t exactly a big club though are they? Just one of many small clubs with similar histories. They do suffer from their position in the country though, so many teams around there to support. They had a great manager who built a team of lower league journeymen really and it was never really ever going to be repeated. They were fearless against the big sides and great to watch for that spell but as you say, location a huge factor as well. I remember one of the very first live Sky games was Oldham v Norwich. Was great stuff.
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Sept 21, 2021 22:00:03 GMT
Post by Billy the kid on Sept 21, 2021 22:00:03 GMT
They aren’t exactly a big club though are they? Just one of many small clubs with similar histories. They do suffer from their position in the country though, so many teams around there to support. They had a great manager who built a team of lower league journeymen really and it was never really ever going to be repeated. They were fearless against the big sides and great to watch for that spell but as you say, location a huge factor as well. I remember one of the very first live Sky games was Oldham v Norwich. Was great stuff. I have 3 memories of Oldham, 1 being a really fucking young wet behind the ears 2nd game, cup match we lost to Premiership Oldham 2-1 i think at home, night match, a game that was called off due to fog (think ben petty scored for us) and then the race riot game. Overall thank fuck we are better run.
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Sept 21, 2021 22:04:38 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 22:04:38 GMT
They had a great manager who built a team of lower league journeymen really and it was never really ever going to be repeated. They were fearless against the big sides and great to watch for that spell but as you say, location a huge factor as well. I remember one of the very first live Sky games was Oldham v Norwich. Was great stuff. I have 3 memories of Oldham, 1 being a really fucking young wet behind the ears 2nd game, cup match we lost to Premiership Oldham 2-1 i think at home, night match, a game that was called off due to fog (think ben petty scored for us) and then the race riot game. Overall thank fuck we are better run. Beat us1-0 after a replay in FA Cup at home. Maybe that one. I think Beckford scored. 0-0 at their place The race riot game, yep was at that. Older chaps may remember the 2-0 called off at HT in FA Cup when Sammy Irvine scored twice. I was about 6, one of my first games. Think they won the replay 1-0,maybe Vic Halom scored. Then there was Cranson's goalkeeping heroics in a 2-1 win there opening game of the season I think They had a skinny midfielder with long greasy hair who always seemed to boss the game v us. Smacked the post in the game with Cranson in goal. Name escapes me. Was a real tidy player.
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Sept 21, 2021 22:05:51 GMT
Post by Billy the kid on Sept 21, 2021 22:05:51 GMT
I have 3 memories of Oldham, 1 being a really fucking young wet behind the ears 2nd game, cup match we lost to Premiership Oldham 2-1 i think at home, night match, a game that was called off due to fog (think ben petty scored for us) and then the race riot game. Overall thank fuck we are better run. Beat us1-0 after a replay in FA Cup at home. Maybe that one. I think Beckford scored. 0-0 at their place The race riot game, yep was at that. Older chaps may remember the 2-0 called off at HT in FA Cup when Sammy Irvine scored twice. I was about 6, one of my first games. Think they won the replay 1-0,maybe Vic Halom scored. Then there was Cranson's goalkeeping heroics in a 2-1 win there opening game of the season I think too many beers drank since then, all i remember is crying my arse off as it was the first propper night match as a 7 year old at the vic on the boothen.
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Sept 21, 2021 22:09:21 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 22:09:21 GMT
Beat us1-0 after a replay in FA Cup at home. Maybe that one. I think Beckford scored. 0-0 at their place The race riot game, yep was at that. Older chaps may remember the 2-0 called off at HT in FA Cup when Sammy Irvine scored twice. I was about 6, one of my first games. Think they won the replay 1-0,maybe Vic Halom scored. Then there was Cranson's goalkeeping heroics in a 2-1 win there opening game of the season I think too many beers drank since then, all i remember is crying my arse off as it was the first propper night match as a 7 year old at the vic on the boothen. I remember Stuart Hall's report on the 0-0 first leg in the car afterwards. Was his usual brilliant self ( at commentary).Compared our back 4 to Roman Centurions
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Sept 21, 2021 22:11:47 GMT
Post by Billy the kid on Sept 21, 2021 22:11:47 GMT
too many beers drank since then, all i remember is crying my arse off as it was the first propper night match as a 7 year old at the vic on the boothen. I remember Stuart Hall's report on the 0-0 first leg in the car afterwards. Was his usual brilliant self ( at commentary).Compared our back 4 to Roman Centurions I remember his report when we played Man City at Main Road, was a glorious way of describing how well we played before ultimatly losing the game. Then obviously years later you realise what he was,
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