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Post by mrcoke on Sept 7, 2021 7:58:18 GMT
The thought has already occurred to me that with transport companies paying huge incentives for people to take HGV driving jobs and the government stepping up testing so there will be 1,500 newly trained lorry drivers joining the roads each week, that it might be wise to give HGVs a wide berth. I don't think lorries have one of those green L plates to indicate the driver has just passed his/her test. Or do they? |
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 7, 2021 9:02:52 GMT
Lorry driver Tom Reddy on 40% pay boost, and a few others. Saw other stuff from this Tom lad and he seems to have his head screwed on right, seems very aware and thoughtful. I wouldn't want to be a haulier, would ruin Tuesday/Thursday night football. The interesting point to me is he wants to leave the industry, even if offered £80,000. Recent generations get locked into chasing money to pay the mortgage, keep up with Joneses, etc. but todays young people leave further education with a large debt, have little prospect of buying a house, and live for today. Lorry driving is not attractive to the young today. The fishing debate has died down and huge play was made over the damage Brexit did to fishing. The reality is very few young people want to go into fishing. A large part of the UK's fishing quota is actually taken up by foreign companies.* Young people today want to continue there education in media studies, economics, computer science, etc.; very few want to learn a trade or develop a skill. *https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52420116 To be fair mate loads of us got told over and over again to go to uni, I know I didn't seriously consider a trade but I'm nerdy af so was the right sort to go uni. I don't blame parents because graduates usually earn more so it's a safer bet unless the kid is into construction or plumbing. Quite a few of my schoolmates went into the trades so it surprised me when I realised how bad the shortage was. Maybe the posh schools down south aren't pulling their weight? EDIT: I don't know how big the differences between generations really are, but I wish all the best to that lad who still wants to give up hauling. He comes across as pretty bright and adaptable, and if you prefer to spend your life around people you love rather than get paid an extra few quid then more power to you. |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 7, 2021 9:10:53 GMT
The interesting point to me is he wants to leave the industry, even if offered £80,000. Recent generations get locked into chasing money to pay the mortgage, keep up with Joneses, etc. but todays young people leave further education with a large debt, have little prospect of buying a house, and live for today. Lorry driving is not attractive to the young today. The fishing debate has died down and huge play was made over the damage Brexit did to fishing. The reality is very few young people want to go into fishing. A large part of the UK's fishing quota is actually taken up by foreign companies.* Young people today want to continue there education in media studies, economics, computer science, etc.; very few want to learn a trade or develop a skill. *https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52420116 To be fair mate loads of us got told over and over again to go to uni, I know I didn't seriously consider a trade but I'm nerdy af so was the right sort to go uni. I don't blame parents because graduates usually earn more so it's a safer bet unless the kid is into construction or plumbing. Quite a few of my schoolmates went into the trades so it surprised me when I realised how bad the shortage was. Maybe the posh schools down south aren't pulling their weight? EDIT: I don't know how big the differences between generations really are, but I wish all the best to that lad who still wants to give up hauling. He comes across as pretty bright and adaptable, and if you prefer to spend your life around people you love rather than get paid an extra few quid then more power to you. Shortly before the pandemic I was on jury service with a young 23 year old man. He hadn't been to uni and left school to start an apprenticeship as a bricklayer. He was a free lance bricklayer in constant demand. His school pals were all coming out of uni with huge debts to pay off. While on the jury service he came in one morning and said he had just put down a deposit on his first house, having obtained a mortgage. |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 8, 2021 16:02:58 GMT
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Sept 8, 2021 16:12:44 GMT
I see the industry is saying the government is finally recognising there is an issue. Why was it so slow to listen ? Longer driving hours and lower standards doesn't exactly sound like a 'best-in-class' solution |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 8, 2021 16:52:46 GMT
I see the industry is saying the government is finally recognising there is an issue. Why was it so slow to listen ? Longer driving hours and lower standards doesn't exactly sound like a 'best-in-class' solution Maybe the relevant Minister was on holiday.  |
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Post by richie22 on Sept 8, 2021 18:37:49 GMT
Quit my job two weeks ago with an outfit based on Cheshire involved in the railway industry, two many broken promises of a wage increase that never came , and a fuck you statement from our lovely owner who I quote ‘won’t have a gun put to her head’!!! We were on £10.40 an hour with no overtime rates , just straight thru, started my new job on Bulkers seemed good, money was right up there , day three and I’m upto 45 hrs already , two days to go … not a problem done big hours before, will be high 60s by the end of the week and blowing bulkers is heavy stuff. By accounts of my colleagues this won’t be enough as they’re regularly expected to top 70 + . Driving in a nutshell , there’s not enough work in a dog. More often than not if you work for small independent you’ll work for a hardline slave driver, that lies! Or work for a big corporate and be bossed about by a fresh faced college kid. Driving’s toss.
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Post by yyy on Sept 8, 2021 18:47:57 GMT
Quit my job two weeks ago with an outfit based on Cheshire involved in the railway industry, two many broken promises of a wage increase that never came , and a fuck you statement from our lovely owner who I quote ‘won’t have a gun put to her head’!!! We were on £10.40 an hour with no overtime rates , just straight thru, started my new job on Bulkers seemed good, money was right up there , day three and I’m upto 45 hrs already , two days to go … not a problem done big hours before, will be high 60s by the end of the week and blowing bulkers is heavy stuff. By accounts of my colleagues this won’t be enough as they’re regularly expected to top 70 + . Driving in a nutshell , there’s not enough work in a dog. More often than not if you work for small independent you’ll work for a hardline slave driver, that lies! Or work for a big corporate and be bossed about by a fresh faced college kid. Driving’s toss. The bloke on the m6 yesterday would probably agree, as I was passing South bound I saw the state of his hgv after he hit a motorway bridge, died apparantly |
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Sept 8, 2021 19:24:08 GMT
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Post by 4372 on Sept 8, 2021 20:15:57 GMT
From Brexit to Brexshit in just over 8 months.... |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 8, 2021 21:50:36 GMT
Coke will be on in a minute with why this is really another example of world-beating environmental protection post Brexit and how much worse things are in the EU...
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Post by thevoid on Sept 9, 2021 6:09:07 GMT
From Brexit to Brexshit in just over 8 months.... Thanks for that insight, AJP Taylor. Fascinating stuff |
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Post by zerps on Sept 9, 2021 6:34:50 GMT
Traditional trades are fucked now.
Even if you manage to find someone that wants to be an apprentice they just stare at their phone all day.
Firms used to take five apprentices on because the incentive was there.
I was told the other day there are 77 vacancies for electricians in Stoke on trent.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 9, 2021 7:41:51 GMT
Coke will be on in a minute with why this is really another example of world-beating environmental protection post Brexit and how much worse things are in the EU... The problem is down to a driver shortage which has been going on for years and worsened by a host of reasons discussed above. I'm sure we will get to hear of the first case of a breach due to a shortage of chemicals when it happens, although breaches of sewage discharge limits are a frequent occurrence and often happen when there is heavy rainfall and drainage systems get overloaded. They rarely get into the news. amp.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/21/raw-sewage-breaches-uk-rivers-10-times-greater-than-watchdog-environment-agency-estimates |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 9, 2021 7:58:33 GMT
Coke will be on in a minute with why this is really another example of world-beating environmental protection post Brexit and how much worse things are in the EU... Would a Labour government or a government of the Left help? |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 9, 2021 8:17:12 GMT
Coke will be on in a minute with why this is really another example of world-beating environmental protection post Brexit and how much worse things are in the EU... The problem is down to a driver shortage which has been going on for years and worsened by a host of reasons discussed above. I'm sure we will get to hear of the first case of a breach due to a shortage of chemicals when it happens, although breaches of sewage discharge limits are a frequent occurrence and often happen when there is heavy rainfall and drainage systems get overloaded. They rarely get into the news. amp.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/21/raw-sewage-breaches-uk-rivers-10-times-greater-than-watchdog-environment-agency-estimatesYep, meanwhile in the post-Brexit world, environmental protections get further diluted not tightened, as predicted. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 9, 2021 8:28:46 GMT
Yep, meanwhile in the post-Brexit world, environmental protections get further diluted not tightened, as predicted. Quite surprisingly with it being a guardian article there seems to be no mention of brexit merely that the problem has been happening for years The increase appears to be down mostly to a increase in testing Which has occurred since brexit it’s a similar conundrum as covid the more you test the more you find |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 9, 2021 8:35:08 GMT
Yep, meanwhile in the post-Brexit world, environmental protections get further diluted not tightened, as predicted. Action has been announced on a host of items as I wrote extensively earlier this year*, including stopping new petrol and diesel cars, gas central heating in new homes, new more efficient petrol, scrapping the damaging CAP, looking replace/reduce gas (while the EU is building a new gas pipeline from Russia), and huge amounts of investment in hydrogen technology and carbon capture technology. The new Environment Bill is currently going through the Lords. The London financial services are leading the world in supporting green investments. * page 1364 of Brexit thread, in case you want to read again. |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 9, 2021 13:02:45 GMT
Covid has clearly (and rightly) made people reassess their work/life balance. In our company we have seen a decline in drivers willing to work nights and/or weekends. That creates a huge problem as in the Retail/FMCG sector you often have stood vehicles on a Tuesday/Wednesday but all your vehicles on the road Friday night into the weekend, this is purely down to the way the DC's ship out their stock to retailers in line with consumer buying patterns. If you want to help as a consumer, do your weekly shopping Mon-Thu instead of at the weekend........... I fully endorse your thread. Covid has made a lot of people realise what is important in life: - your health, your family, your relaxation time, etc. - not chasing money to pay for the latest phone or next foreign holiday. I say a lot of people, not everyone is the same. I think this not only applies to us Brits but to those European drivers who returned to their homeland. Never mind work/money, Brexit, etc. being at home with the family who don't want you to go back to the UK is now appreciated more. So what about logistics in the future? We see that other areas of commerce are now being affected by lorry driver shortages, such as beer, and Ikea. Is this because the problem is growing or what I suspect, logistics companies are attracting employees away from other companies, so the problem is being passed on to someone else. So what is being done? As always when you search the internet you find everyone wants to talk about the problem, but there is nothing about resolving it. To solve the problem we actually need to do two things: 1. Increase the number of drivers. Just as there was a large loss of drivers due to changing their lifestyle last year, this year and next I expect their will be far fewer retirements as a lot of those who would have retired or left the industry have already gone. One of the major causes for the shortfall was lack of training and testing last year due to the pandemic. So if training and testing has returned to normal there should be a net increase in drivers. Hopefully logistic companies and their customers will appreciate the value of drivers and pay more, thereby attracting people (back) into the business, but some will need training. The public are returning to shopping, so the supermarkets will need fewer delivery drivers, although it will never go back to the way it was pre-pandemic. 2. Increase efficiency. All companies can improve efficiency and I expect logistics companies will find ways to squeeze more out of their resources and improve their assets, such as more appropriate vehicles which are constantly being replaced. I see far less trailers on lorries than I used to in the 50s and 60s - why is this? More pleasing to me would be stopping needless transportation of goods. During our membership of the EU, we have seen ever increasing movement of goods, due to large distribution centres. The Honda factory closed at Swindon and was immediately turned into a massive logistics centre. There was a case quoted at the start of Brexit about bicycle saddles being bought in the from an Italian cycle company that was actually produced in Smethwick. The saddles were shipped to Italy from the Smethwick factory to be distributed world wide from the Italian distribution centre, including the UK. Demand. It is unlikely demand will reduce in the future, however increased transport costs will curb demand to some degree. Increased transport costs will make locally produced goods more competitive. Maybe more British people will buy British cheese instead of French cheese? Or, some entrepreneurial British cheese producer spot an opportunity to produce cheese that tastes like French cheese (I love Roule!) and produce it cheaper if French cheese is more expensive due to transport and Brexit! Further to my post above, IKEA are now saying their problems in getting product into stores relates more to a shortage of containers as the world comes out of the pandemic and trade increases, plus the effects of Covid in China where their products come from. order-order.com/2021/09/09/ikea-stops-blaming-brexit-for-driver-shortage-after-just-two-days/ |
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Post by franklin on Sept 9, 2021 13:07:19 GMT
I fully endorse your thread. Covid has made a lot of people realise what is important in life: - your health, your family, your relaxation time, etc. - not chasing money to pay for the latest phone or next foreign holiday. I say a lot of people, not everyone is the same. I think this not only applies to us Brits but to those European drivers who returned to their homeland. Never mind work/money, Brexit, etc. being at home with the family who don't want you to go back to the UK is now appreciated more. So what about logistics in the future? We see that other areas of commerce are now being affected by lorry driver shortages, such as beer, and Ikea. Is this because the problem is growing or what I suspect, logistics companies are attracting employees away from other companies, so the problem is being passed on to someone else. So what is being done? As always when you search the internet you find everyone wants to talk about the problem, but there is nothing about resolving it. To solve the problem we actually need to do two things: 1. Increase the number of drivers. Just as there was a large loss of drivers due to changing their lifestyle last year, this year and next I expect their will be far fewer retirements as a lot of those who would have retired or left the industry have already gone. One of the major causes for the shortfall was lack of training and testing last year due to the pandemic. So if training and testing has returned to normal there should be a net increase in drivers. Hopefully logistic companies and their customers will appreciate the value of drivers and pay more, thereby attracting people (back) into the business, but some will need training. The public are returning to shopping, so the supermarkets will need fewer delivery drivers, although it will never go back to the way it was pre-pandemic. 2. Increase efficiency. All companies can improve efficiency and I expect logistics companies will find ways to squeeze more out of their resources and improve their assets, such as more appropriate vehicles which are constantly being replaced. I see far less trailers on lorries than I used to in the 50s and 60s - why is this? More pleasing to me would be stopping needless transportation of goods. During our membership of the EU, we have seen ever increasing movement of goods, due to large distribution centres. The Honda factory closed at Swindon and was immediately turned into a massive logistics centre. There was a case quoted at the start of Brexit about bicycle saddles being bought in the from an Italian cycle company that was actually produced in Smethwick. The saddles were shipped to Italy from the Smethwick factory to be distributed world wide from the Italian distribution centre, including the UK. Demand. It is unlikely demand will reduce in the future, however increased transport costs will curb demand to some degree. Increased transport costs will make locally produced goods more competitive. Maybe more British people will buy British cheese instead of French cheese? Or, some entrepreneurial British cheese producer spot an opportunity to produce cheese that tastes like French cheese (I love Roule!) and produce it cheaper if French cheese is more expensive due to transport and Brexit! Further to my post above, IKEA are now saying their problems in getting product into stores relates more to a shortage of containers as the world comes out of the pandemic and trade increases, plus the effects of Covid in China where their products come from. order-order.com/2021/09/09/ikea-stops-blaming-brexit-for-driver-shortage-after-just-two-days/I'm pretty sure being as the issues is world wide that the sole issue is not Brexit but that won't stop the blame game. Its over get behind the UK 🇬🇧 |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 9, 2021 14:48:05 GMT
Yep, meanwhile in the post-Brexit world, environmental protections get further diluted not tightened, as predicted. Action has been announced on a host of items as I wrote extensively earlier this year*, including stopping new petrol and diesel cars, gas central heating in new homes, new more efficient petrol, scrapping the damaging CAP, looking replace/reduce gas (while the EU is building a new gas pipeline from Russia), and huge amounts of investment in hydrogen technology and carbon capture technology. The new Environment Bill is currently going through the Lords. The London financial services are leading the world in supporting green investments. * page 1364 of Brexit thread, in case you want to read again. Yes, and as I keep saying, and you keep agreeing, announcing tough sounding action is one thing, delivering is another. See Priti Patel's tough sounding words on stopping illegal immigration as an example. So far, there have been several examples of regulatory loosening in numerous areas, not least environmental protection, and lots of promises and pledges about what they're planning on doing, which, as anyone with any recollection will realise, usually amounts to very little with this government. I hope you're right about the greening of the UK in all these areas as it would be a very welcome move forward but, and call me cynical if you like, Bluffer's track record speaks for itself: he and his government tell people what they want to hear at any given time and rely on the hope that their supporters will have forgotten what they promised by the time delivery is called for, with the breaking of the latest manifesto pledges just one more example in a long line of them. |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 9, 2021 15:32:20 GMT
Action has been announced on a host of items as I wrote extensively earlier this year*, including stopping new petrol and diesel cars, gas central heating in new homes, new more efficient petrol, scrapping the damaging CAP, looking replace/reduce gas (while the EU is building a new gas pipeline from Russia), and huge amounts of investment in hydrogen technology and carbon capture technology. The new Environment Bill is currently going through the Lords. The London financial services are leading the world in supporting green investments. * page 1364 of Brexit thread, in case you want to read again. Yes, and as I keep saying, and you keep agreeing, announcing tough sounding action is one thing, delivering is another. See Priti Patel's tough sounding words on stopping illegal immigration as an example. So far, there have been several examples of regulatory loosening in numerous areas, not least environmental protection, and lots of promises and pledges about what they're planning on doing, which, as anyone with any recollection will realise, usually amounts to very little with this government. I hope you're right about the greening of the UK in all these areas as it would be a very welcome move forward but, and call me cynical if you like, Bluffer's track record speaks for itself: he and his government tell people what they want to hear at any given time and rely on the hope that their supporters will have forgotten what they promised by the time delivery is called for, with the breaking of the latest manifesto pledges just one more example in a long line of them. Like you I have little faith Bluffer or any politician for that matter, but he did deliver Brexit, albeit in a defective form. You can take comfort from the fact that Bluffer will not be around for ever, and during my 40 years working with the Environment Agency and other environmental authorities, I always found them to be competent professionals. Unlike van der Leyen who is incompetent and immovable and under the influence of thousands of corporate lobbyists in Brussels |
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Sept 9, 2021 15:49:49 GMT
Action has been announced on a host of items as I wrote extensively earlier this year*, including stopping new petrol and diesel cars, gas central heating in new homes, new more efficient petrol, scrapping the damaging CAP, looking replace/reduce gas (while the EU is building a new gas pipeline from Russia), and huge amounts of investment in hydrogen technology and carbon capture technology. The new Environment Bill is currently going through the Lords. The London financial services are leading the world in supporting green investments. * page 1364 of Brexit thread, in case you want to read again. Yes, and as I keep saying, and you keep agreeing, announcing tough sounding action is one thing, delivering is another. See Priti Patel's tough sounding words on stopping illegal immigration as an example. So far, there have been several examples of regulatory loosening in numerous areas, not least environmental protection, and lots of promises and pledges about what they're planning on doing, which, as anyone with any recollection will realise, usually amounts to very little with this government. I hope you're right about the greening of the UK in all these areas as it would be a very welcome move forward but, and call me cynical if you like, Bluffer's track record speaks for itself: he and his government tell people what they want to hear at any given time and rely on the hope that their supporters will have forgotten what they promised by the time delivery is called for, with the breaking of the latest manifesto pledges just one more example in a long line of them. I see we're currently firing up the coal-fired power stations |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 9, 2021 16:43:24 GMT
Yes, and as I keep saying, and you keep agreeing, announcing tough sounding action is one thing, delivering is another. See Priti Patel's tough sounding words on stopping illegal immigration as an example. So far, there have been several examples of regulatory loosening in numerous areas, not least environmental protection, and lots of promises and pledges about what they're planning on doing, which, as anyone with any recollection will realise, usually amounts to very little with this government. I hope you're right about the greening of the UK in all these areas as it would be a very welcome move forward but, and call me cynical if you like, Bluffer's track record speaks for itself: he and his government tell people what they want to hear at any given time and rely on the hope that their supporters will have forgotten what they promised by the time delivery is called for, with the breaking of the latest manifesto pledges just one more example in a long line of them. I see we're currently firing up the coal-fired power stations True; it's amazing no one has blamed Brexit yet. It was one station wasn't it? Not "stations". There has been an anticyclone sitting over the British Isles leading to calm weather and minimal wind power generation. That Brexit again? |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 9, 2021 16:52:37 GMT
Yes, and as I keep saying, and you keep agreeing, announcing tough sounding action is one thing, delivering is another. See Priti Patel's tough sounding words on stopping illegal immigration as an example. So far, there have been several examples of regulatory loosening in numerous areas, not least environmental protection, and lots of promises and pledges about what they're planning on doing, which, as anyone with any recollection will realise, usually amounts to very little with this government. I hope you're right about the greening of the UK in all these areas as it would be a very welcome move forward but, and call me cynical if you like, Bluffer's track record speaks for itself: he and his government tell people what they want to hear at any given time and rely on the hope that their supporters will have forgotten what they promised by the time delivery is called for, with the breaking of the latest manifesto pledges just one more example in a long line of them. Like you I have little faith Bluffer or any politician for that matter, but he did deliver Brexit, albeit in a defective form. You can take comfort from the fact that Bluffer will not be around for ever, and during my 40 years working with the Environment Agency and other environmental authorities, I always found them to be competent professionals. Unlike van der Leyen who is incompetent and immovable and under the influence of thousands of corporate lobbyists in Brussels Well if you still have mates in the EA can you give them a call and ask them to get their finger out re Walleys Quarry - they don't seem to be particularly competent around that. www.mrw.co.uk/news/court-asked-to-intervene-over-walleys-quarry-landfill-stench-19-08-2021/And I see your heroine Liz Truss is considering backsliding on our committment to the Paris Agreement to get the Australia deal over the line. Will the EA be holding her to account on that one? |
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Sept 9, 2021 19:05:37 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 9, 2021 22:21:24 GMT
Apologies I only saw reference to one station in the media; I don't look at the Daily Mail - I must pay more attention to it (That's a joke like the reference to blaming Brexit OK?) |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 9, 2021 22:32:18 GMT
Like you I have little faith Bluffer or any politician for that matter, but he did deliver Brexit, albeit in a defective form. You can take comfort from the fact that Bluffer will not be around for ever, and during my 40 years working with the Environment Agency and other environmental authorities, I always found them to be competent professionals. Unlike van der Leyen who is incompetent and immovable and under the influence of thousands of corporate lobbyists in Brussels Well if you still have mates in the EA can you give them a call and ask them to get their finger out re Walleys Quarry - they don't seem to be particularly competent around that. www.mrw.co.uk/news/court-asked-to-intervene-over-walleys-quarry-landfill-stench-19-08-2021/And I see your heroine Liz Truss is considering backsliding on our committment to the Paris Agreement to get the Australia deal over the line. Will the EA be holding her to account on that one? That situation at the quarry is disgraceful. Sorry all my EA contacts are long since retired like me - but I assure you knowing those professionals they will be doing all in their power without actually taking legal responsibility for the mess. They cannot actually tell the operator / site owner what to do as they would be accepting accountability for any subsequent circumstances. The best they can do is require the operator to meet their legal obligations, but at the same time not put them out of business because then the tax payer will pick up the tab. Also I'm not up to speed these days on the responsibility for enforcement between the EA and the local authority; I believe it is still the LA responsible for smell nuisance and enforcement. I am posting on the Paris Agreement on the Brexit thread. |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 10, 2021 9:33:44 GMT
If you can get past the headline, this article does relate the driver shortage story : inews.co.uk/opinion/hgv-driver-shortage-uk-government-fix-lorry-crisis-caused-brexit-1191706The article covers most of the bases although it is written in an anti government tone and omits issues like the impacts of the Swansea DVLA strike and the tax changes in April. Why is it necessary to make reference to the "cut and paste" of EU regulations into UK law? What were the government supposed to do, just abandon > 40 years of EU regulation, or we all wait years for new legislation. It is clearly going to take a long time to unpick decades of EU legislation like the CAP and replace it with legislation appropriate to the UK, whatever the colour of government we have elected. Instead of bleating because we are short of chicken ( * ) or milkshake and scaring people into panic buying, we should we celebrating that we have avoided future EU regulation on finance, defence, and dictating foreign policy. * While on the subject of chicken, Nando's closed 50 of their outlets , not all of them, for less than a week. The problem was not due to a shortage of lorry drivers but production problems at their suppliers due to shortage of labour. That shortage was overcome by Nando's sending some of their people to help out. My guess is the root cause was the pandemic and a large number of Nando's suppliers staff being pinged and stopped work till tested. But hey-ho who wants to get to the bottom of the issue and spoil a good anti Brexit story? Apologies for quoting The Sun: www.thesun.co.uk/money/15882844/nandos-close-stores-food-stock-issues/ |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 10, 2021 10:00:55 GMT
If you can get past the headline, this article does relate the driver shortage story : inews.co.uk/opinion/hgv-driver-shortage-uk-government-fix-lorry-crisis-caused-brexit-1191706The article covers most of the bases although it is written in an anti government tone and omits issues like the impacts of the Swansea DVLA strike and the tax changes in April. Why is it necessary to make reference to the "cut and paste" of EU regulations into UK law? What were the government supposed to do, just abandon > 40 years of EU regulation, or we all wait years for new legislation. It is clearly going to take a long time to unpick decades of EU legislation like the CAP and replace it with legislation appropriate to the UK, whatever the colour of government we have elected. Instead of bleating because we are short of chicken ( * ) or milkshake and scaring people into panic buying, we should we celebrating that we have avoided future EU regulation on finance, defence, and dictating foreign policy. * While on the subject of chicken, Nando's closed 50 of their outlets , not all of them, for less than a week. The problem was not due to a shortage of lorry drivers but production problems at their suppliers due to shortage of labour. That shortage was overcome by Nando's sending some of their people to help out. My guess is the root cause was the pandemic and a large number of Nando's suppliers staff being pinged and stopped work till tested. But hey-ho who wants to get to the bottom of the issue and spoil a good anti Brexit story? Apologies for quoting The Sun: www.thesun.co.uk/money/15882844/nandos-close-stores-food-stock-issues/Well you're not looking to get to the bottom of the issue if you're 'guessing' (your word not mine) as to the root cause! Just sayin' 😉 |
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