|
|
Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 13, 2024 22:35:29 GMT
As has already been said, people know what’s needed - but the unrealistic selling of our souls from the government to achieve net zero so aggressively will make an already terrible economic outlook for the population worse. Having to get poorer for this is the hard sell many won’t (and actually aren’t able to) accept. Opens the door to a populist government in 2029. People dont mind doing their part but not if it means being financially crippled in return, particularly as the UK contributes a very small percent of global emissions. And a populist government is a good thing and urgently needed. |
|
|
|
Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 14, 2024 13:24:54 GMT
And now it becomes obvious.
|
|
|
|
Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 14, 2024 13:46:58 GMT
And now it becomes obvious. Surely someone flagged up the fact that this might be a controversial appointment that'll go down like a shit sandwich. I'm starting to worry that this labour party are a bit stupid. Or at least their PR advisors are a bit stupid. Could be both I suppose. |
|
|
|
Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 19, 2024 16:40:31 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by dutchstokie on Nov 21, 2024 10:53:46 GMT
I see a lot of thoughts that us being more green with energy will equate to lower energy bills - does anyone truely believe that? It’s the UK remember, I don’t see any world in which energy companies will reduce their costs to consumers, profit chasers after all. We already have a good renewable mix on energy, absolutely no impact to prices and we continue to pay some of the highest prices. It’s a fallacy and will never happen. Unfortunately the decisions of the generations before me put us on the back foot with blocking nuclear. We could be like France, but we ruined that - catastrophic decision making. As has already been said, people know what’s needed - but the unrealistic selling of our souls from the government to achieve net zero so aggressively will make an already terrible economic outlook for the population worse. Having to get poorer for this is the hard sell many won’t (and actually aren’t able to) accept. Worth a read www.energy-uk.org.uk/insights/electricity-generation/#:~:text=Solar%20Photovoltaic,much%20as%2060%25%20since%202010. The alternative to renewables? Over 80% of gas reserves in Russia- what could possibly go wrong? Oil in the Middle East- no trouble out there is there? China???????? The US? A bunch of nutjobs just elected who want a trade war Agree there should have been more investment in nuclear in recent decades but that would hardly have brought bills down. Meanwhile the cost of the changing climate is increasing- the floods, the flood protection, the failing harvests etc ....... how many cars destroyed in Valencia? Can't imagine insurance premiums going in any direction but up. The alternaitve to renewables? Again, Hydrogen is where the smart and clever money should be going .... Tata Steel have recently signed a deal with a company in Norway to import the stuff whilst the development of a hydrogen facility here in IJmuiden is taking shape. www.hydrogeninsight.com/production/tata-steel-to-import-liquid-hydrogen-from-norway-to-netherlands-for-green-steelmaking/2-1-1739670Theres 2 facilities in NL already - one down in Rotterdam very nearly complete and one up in Eemshaven. Lump on any companies dealing with Hydrogen production and storage if you want to develop a nice nest egg. Heres a simple diagram showing where the terminals are and the network being set up to distribute it.....fascinating stuff really !  Yours faithfully Dutchstokie Financial Advisor and all round good egg The Oatcake |
|
|
|
Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 23, 2024 13:28:36 GMT
Worth a read www.energy-uk.org.uk/insights/electricity-generation/#:~:text=Solar%20Photovoltaic,much%20as%2060%25%20since%202010. The alternative to renewables? Over 80% of gas reserves in Russia- what could possibly go wrong? Oil in the Middle East- no trouble out there is there? China???????? The US? A bunch of nutjobs just elected who want a trade war Agree there should have been more investment in nuclear in recent decades but that would hardly have brought bills down. Meanwhile the cost of the changing climate is increasing- the floods, the flood protection, the failing harvests etc ....... how many cars destroyed in Valencia? Can't imagine insurance premiums going in any direction but up. The alternaitve to renewables? Again, Hydrogen is where the smart and clever money should be going .... Tata Steel have recently signed a deal with a company in Norway to import the stuff whilst the development of a hydrogen facility here in IJmuiden is taking shape. www.hydrogeninsight.com/production/tata-steel-to-import-liquid-hydrogen-from-norway-to-netherlands-for-green-steelmaking/2-1-1739670Theres 2 facilities in NL already - one down in Rotterdam very nearly complete and one up in Eemshaven. Lump on any companies dealing with Hydrogen production and storage if you want to develop a nice nest egg. Heres a simple diagram showing where the terminals are and the network being set up to distribute it.....fascinating stuff really ! View AttachmentYours faithfully Dutchstokie Financial Advisor and all round good egg The Oatcake Hydrogen is not an alternative to renewables - it is dependant on renewables in order to be carbon neutral. You need energy to make hydrogen. If the energy used is from a renewable source it is carbon neutral (green hydrogen). If it is created using energy from a renewable source it is not carbon neutral (blue hydrogen). Having said that if Norway is providing the hydrogen it's probably green hydrogen because of Norway hydro electric capacity. That's certainly way better than the carbon capture solution being pursued by our government which is just kicking the can down the road in terms of weaning off oil, coal and gas. |
|
|
|
Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 23, 2024 17:02:28 GMT
Sounds like flop 29 has been an absolute disaster of an event..
|
|
|
|
Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 23, 2024 17:40:18 GMT
Sounds like flop 29 has been an absolute disaster of an event.. No Rolex watches in the gift bags i heard so everyone was well pissed off flying all that way in their lear jets to get there. |
|
|
|
Post by salopstick on Nov 25, 2024 12:12:12 GMT
when they built the second severn crossing they could have built a barrage type to create electricity from some of the biggest tides in the world an old article from 2013 but still valid - www.thegreenage.co.uk/should-we-build-the-severn-barrage-surely-a-no-brainer/"The Severn barrage would take advantage of the tidal stream on the River Severn to produce 5% of our energy requirements. That is not just 5% of our renewable requirements – that is 5% of our total energy requirements (equivalent to 3 or 4 nuclear reactors). That is an enormous contribution to our energy cause, but that is not the best part." this was rejected a newer article - www.thegreenage.co.uk/tidal-lagoon-swansea-bay-plc/ states "The bottom line is that no large infrastructure project, and no form of renewable energy generation, will be entirely without consequences for the environment – however good the intentions. But green energies are infinitely preferable to those which produce huge carbon emissions. A recent independent review said that ‘it is hard to find an energy source where people are more instinctively supportive than tidal power.’" The bottom line is that no large infrastructure project, and no form of renewable energy generation, will be entirely without consequences for the environment – however good the intentions. But green energies are infinitely preferable to those which produce huge carbon emissions. A recent independent review said that ‘it is hard to find an energy source where people are more instinctively supportive than tidal power.’ |
|
|
|
Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 25, 2024 12:22:09 GMT
when they built the second severn crossing they could have built a barrage type to create electricity from some of the biggest tides in the world an old article from 2013 but still valid - www.thegreenage.co.uk/should-we-build-the-severn-barrage-surely-a-no-brainer/"The Severn barrage would take advantage of the tidal stream on the River Severn to produce 5% of our energy requirements. That is not just 5% of our renewable requirements – that is 5% of our total energy requirements (equivalent to 3 or 4 nuclear reactors). That is an enormous contribution to our energy cause, but that is not the best part." this was rejected a newer article - www.thegreenage.co.uk/tidal-lagoon-swansea-bay-plc/ states "The bottom line is that no large infrastructure project, and no form of renewable energy generation, will be entirely without consequences for the environment – however good the intentions. But green energies are infinitely preferable to those which produce huge carbon emissions. A recent independent review said that ‘it is hard to find an energy source where people are more instinctively supportive than tidal power.’" The bottom line is that no large infrastructure project, and no form of renewable energy generation, will be entirely without consequences for the environment – however good the intentions. But green energies are infinitely preferable to those which produce huge carbon emissions. A recent independent review said that ‘it is hard to find an energy source where people are more instinctively supportive than tidal power.’ Surprise surprise its still stuck in the planning process 😆 🙄 |
|
|
|
Post by salopstick on Nov 25, 2024 12:27:04 GMT
when they built the second severn crossing they could have built a barrage type to create electricity from some of the biggest tides in the world an old article from 2013 but still valid - www.thegreenage.co.uk/should-we-build-the-severn-barrage-surely-a-no-brainer/"The Severn barrage would take advantage of the tidal stream on the River Severn to produce 5% of our energy requirements. That is not just 5% of our renewable requirements – that is 5% of our total energy requirements (equivalent to 3 or 4 nuclear reactors). That is an enormous contribution to our energy cause, but that is not the best part." this was rejected a newer article - www.thegreenage.co.uk/tidal-lagoon-swansea-bay-plc/ states "The bottom line is that no large infrastructure project, and no form of renewable energy generation, will be entirely without consequences for the environment – however good the intentions. But green energies are infinitely preferable to those which produce huge carbon emissions. A recent independent review said that ‘it is hard to find an energy source where people are more instinctively supportive than tidal power.’" The bottom line is that no large infrastructure project, and no form of renewable energy generation, will be entirely without consequences for the environment – however good the intentions. But green energies are infinitely preferable to those which produce huge carbon emissions. A recent independent review said that ‘it is hard to find an energy source where people are more instinctively supportive than tidal power.’ Surprise surprise its still stuck in the planning process 😆 🙄 it salmost as if common sense ideas to generate energy are rejected and either the staus quo remains or just banning anything damaging to the environment surely as all cars go electric we need the means to be powering them and they wonder why people are sceptical |
|
|
|
Post by salopstick on Nov 25, 2024 12:27:26 GMT
they could build a hydro plant in pontypridd high street
|
|
|
|
Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 25, 2024 12:51:04 GMT
when they built the second severn crossing they could have built a barrage type to create electricity from some of the biggest tides in the world an old article from 2013 but still valid - www.thegreenage.co.uk/should-we-build-the-severn-barrage-surely-a-no-brainer/"The Severn barrage would take advantage of the tidal stream on the River Severn to produce 5% of our energy requirements. That is not just 5% of our renewable requirements – that is 5% of our total energy requirements (equivalent to 3 or 4 nuclear reactors). That is an enormous contribution to our energy cause, but that is not the best part." this was rejected a newer article - www.thegreenage.co.uk/tidal-lagoon-swansea-bay-plc/ states "The bottom line is that no large infrastructure project, and no form of renewable energy generation, will be entirely without consequences for the environment – however good the intentions. But green energies are infinitely preferable to those which produce huge carbon emissions. A recent independent review said that ‘it is hard to find an energy source where people are more instinctively supportive than tidal power.’" The bottom line is that no large infrastructure project, and no form of renewable energy generation, will be entirely without consequences for the environment – however good the intentions. But green energies are infinitely preferable to those which produce huge carbon emissions. A recent independent review said that ‘it is hard to find an energy source where people are more instinctively supportive than tidal power.’ This has to be a serious consideration. Devon has huge potential with 6 large rivers with considerable tidal range, with their sources on Dartmoor, that would supply a good amount of renewable energy. I’ve seen this possibility discussed on social media but seems the problem, as well as cost of infrastructure, lies in fish breeding grounds. Surely this is not insurmountable. The river Dart has numerous weirs that have fish bypasses to allow movement up and down stream. It’s bonkers that no schemes are being considered. The infrastructure cost would be high but once built running costs would be dwarfed by the amount of unrestricted energy produced. Not like wind and solar energy that is at the whim of the weather. |
|
|
|
Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 25, 2024 13:30:06 GMT
Surprise surprise its still stuck in the planning process 😆 🙄 it salmost as if common sense ideas to generate energy are rejected and either the staus quo remains or just banning anything damaging to the environment surely as all cars go electric we need the means to be powering them and they wonder why people are sceptical Well let's hope Starmer is true to his word and he's going to fix the planning system. I seriously hope he succeeds but I also have serious doubts.. |
|
|
|
Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 26, 2024 18:20:57 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 27, 2024 7:28:32 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 27, 2024 8:35:05 GMT
The similarities to those insisting on implementing the green agenda and those in 2020 who cheered on destroying the economy, locking society up and forcing masks on children during covid bollocks are creepy. The authoritarian techniques being used to indoctrinate people into buying in to this illogical, idiotic concept that humans in the West can somehow stop climate change is beyond insane and equally as insane as the idea that lockdowns were a good idea!! Inevitably, we've even seen extremists from the green mob advocate "climate lockdowns" 😂 |
|
|
|
Post by foghornsgleghorn on Nov 27, 2024 12:28:24 GMT
Meanwhile the good souls of areas flooded earlier this week are saying that they need more funding for flood defences to counter the very real impact of climate change.
Not sure where that funding is coming from.
|
|
|
|
Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 27, 2024 12:50:09 GMT
Meanwhile the good souls of areas flooded earlier this week are saying that they need more funding for flood defences to counter the very real impact of climate change. Not sure where that funding is coming from. Because we're throwing money at 'green' agenda items that shouldn't be the current priority. That funding should be spent on drainage, weatherproofing and infrastructure improvements, but the people making the decisions won't benefit from that will they. |
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 27, 2024 12:50:46 GMT
Meanwhile the good souls of areas flooded earlier this week are saying that they need more funding for flood defences to counter the very real impact of climate change. Not sure where that funding is coming from. Because we're throwing money at 'green' agenda items that shouldn't be the current priority. That funding should be spent on drainage, weatherproofing and infrastructure improvements, but the people making the decisions won't benefit from that will they. Spot on. |
|
|
|
Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 27, 2024 12:55:42 GMT
Meanwhile the good souls of areas flooded earlier this week are saying that they need more funding for flood defences to counter the very real impact of climate change. Not sure where that funding is coming from. What would help is if the people who ram this message down our gobs, in increasingly manic ways, didn't keep getting caught out being lying shit rags. It leaves people just a touch skeptical. The vast majority of people are very sympathetic to policies promoting a healthier sustainable world. But the maniacs at the top of some govts and various ngo's take on this overlord, we are fucking doomed to the pits of hell attitude. And guess what, it turns reasonable people right off. So they had a receptive audience but have managed to and continue to manage to make people switch off. People are not going to vote to make themselves considerably poorer or vote to make their lives increasingly hard to live. And someone talking to them like they are evil and doomed if they don't behave, for me anyway, get a big FU. |
|
|
|
Post by Davef on Nov 27, 2024 12:56:17 GMT
Meanwhile the good souls of areas flooded earlier this week are saying that they need more funding for flood defences to counter the very real impact of climate change. Not sure where that funding is coming from. A lot of the good souls in South Wales are bemoaning the felling of trees, the removal of weirs and the poor quality of drainage for their current plight. |
|
|
|
Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 27, 2024 13:16:39 GMT
Meanwhile the good souls of areas flooded earlier this week are saying that they need more funding for flood defences to counter the very real impact of climate change. Not sure where that funding is coming from. A lot of the good souls in South Wales are bemoaning the felling of trees, the removal of weirs and the poor quality of drainage for their current plight. Wrong Dave. Sell your car and buy electric, stop going on holiday and ffs please stop eating beef burgers 👍 And work from home and dye your hair pink whilst you're at it...and get a heat pump, might not work very well but do it anyway. |
|
|
|
Post by phileetin on Nov 27, 2024 14:14:46 GMT
i'm surprised the vauxhall van plant closure hasn't been mentioned as part of the alter of net zero on here .
|
|
|
|
Post by Northy on Nov 27, 2024 16:33:40 GMT
Meanwhile the good souls of areas flooded earlier this week are saying that they need more funding for flood defences to counter the very real impact of climate change. Not sure where that funding is coming from. Because we're throwing money at 'green' agenda items that shouldn't be the current priority. That funding should be spent on drainage, weatherproofing and infrastructure improvements, but the people making the decisions won't benefit from that will they. But wouldn't throwing money at the green agenda save throwing even more money at other areas in the future? |
|
|
|
Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 27, 2024 16:54:54 GMT
Because we're throwing money at 'green' agenda items that shouldn't be the current priority. That funding should be spent on drainage, weatherproofing and infrastructure improvements, but the people making the decisions won't benefit from that will they. But wouldn't throwing money at the green agenda save throwing even more money at other areas in the future? I think we have to cut our cloth accordingly, especially if we're committed to giving money away. Added to that I think that improvements in green technology would benefit us, in terms of efficiency or scale. |
|
|
|
Post by Davef on Nov 27, 2024 21:13:17 GMT
These people are barmy. I wonder how many who are on board with this nonsense lost their shit over chlorinated chicken?
|
|
|
|
Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 28, 2024 8:37:19 GMT
Meanwhile the good souls of areas flooded earlier this week are saying that they need more funding for flood defences to counter the very real impact of climate change. Not sure where that funding is coming from. Well that's pretty much in line with the outcome of COP29 - the oil and gas lobby have sunk their fangs into every organisation setup to deal with climate change and the agenda is now dealing with the inevitable rather than stop it happening. The fact is most people either want to deny climate change is happening or don't want to do anything about it because it's inconvenient and there isn't the political will or world wide level of effective co-operation to make it happen and there are key players like Trump in bed with oil and gas and who are going to ignore the issue for popular support and a few backhanders. The fact is climate change is going to cause havoc. Millions are going to die and lose their home and whole countries are going to cease to exist. People are only going to do anything about this when there is a cataclysmic event like the collapse of the Antartic icesheet and even then it might be just a request for a few more sandbags. The country which is going to benefit from this is China. They know climate change is real and already way ahead of the game. By the time the West cotton on and decide they have to act China will make a killing selling their solutions. Dominating the world stage has always been about who is successfully utilising the cutting age technology. With the West still reliant on oil and gas China is going to make us look like a relic from a different age. Which is how it's going to go down in the history books. |
|
|
|
Post by Northy on Nov 28, 2024 8:54:59 GMT
These people are barmy. I wonder how many who are on board with this nonsense lost their shit over chlorinated chicken? Barmy, how, why? I presume you have studied the scientific research, all 70 of the pier reviewed scientific studies to come up with that informative response to the product? Bovaer is the most extensively studied and scientifically proven solution to the challenge of burped methane to date — with 100+ on-farms trials in 20+ countries and more than 70 peer-reviewed scientific studies. In every case, it has proven safe for animal, farmer and consumer. In a cow's rumen, microbes help break down food. This releases hydrogen and carbon dioxide. An enzyme combines these gases to form methane. Bovaer is a feed supplement that suppresses the enzyme, so less methane gets generated. Just ¼ teaspoon in a cow’s daily feed takes effect in as little as 30 minutes. As it acts, Bovaer is safely broken down into compounds already naturally present in the rumen. It's nothing like chlorinated chicken |
|
|
|
Post by riverman on Nov 28, 2024 9:00:45 GMT
Meanwhile the good souls of areas flooded earlier this week are saying that they need more funding for flood defences to counter the very real impact of climate change. Not sure where that funding is coming from. Maybe they should try cleaning and maintaining the drainage systems first and stop building on flood planes. |
|
