Dan, I retired a long time ago from organizing the OO games and I know Tel isn't well enough to do it now. He takes on far too much as it is. I enjoyed every minute of it but it's in the past now. One of the secrets of life is to enjoy what you've done and don't go beyond your 'sell-by-date'. I've reached mine. Besides, Merk is right. I'm struggling to sort out the Bossie trip because his team and Stoke are mostly playing at home on the same dates. I won't organize one when Stoke are at home.