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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 21, 2021 15:52:48 GMT
Well 16 matches in anyway. It's true we took some good form from the previous season in to the start of this season having added Fletch and Mikel in the summer. Notwithstanding the Thyrese injury it's simply inexplicable to me why we fell apart as we did. MON seemed to blame it on a collective exhaustion, a team wide fatigue, both mental and physical. But why? We played the same games as anyone else. And only managed to play for 45 minutes in most of those. That’s generous, I haven’t watched all the games but the one’s I have I struggle to recall a decent 45 minutes in any of them. We’re dull, dour, defensive, unimaginative, unadventurous, slow, poor on the ball. Apart from that I think we’ve been ok.
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Post by march4 on May 21, 2021 16:36:21 GMT
Our collapse from a team capable of winning the league to relegation form will always be a mystery. It happened almost overnight.
Did the players lose belief when Campbell was injured?
Did MON run out of steam?
Did the lack of fitness catch up with us?
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Post by leicspotter on May 21, 2021 17:47:50 GMT
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Post by march4 on May 21, 2021 20:22:07 GMT
The man has a clear ethos for everyone in the club to follow. It is a clear example of leadership. It is exactly what we are lacking.
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Post by shakermaker on May 25, 2021 22:30:22 GMT
Just seen the manager of new French league champions Lille has left the club. Bit of a surprise considering what they’ve just achieved, but this is a manager with a big reputation. Took a relegation-threatened Lille (formerly managed by Marcelo Bielsa no less!) and took them to 2nd and 4th placed finishes before winning the title on a quarter of PSG’s budget.
Surely Levy at Spurs has to be going all out to get him??
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Post by dirtclod on May 26, 2021 2:56:10 GMT
I'd hire Galtier just on the merit of sticking it to PSG. He's quite impressive, seems to know when it's time to move on too.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 6:51:16 GMT
There was myself, and one other person on this board banging the drum for Galtier when we fired Hughes, and even for the 1st season in the Championship. All ifs and buts of course, but we'd be in a much different place right now if we had. He seems to be a manager that believes in team spirit more than star players.
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 26, 2021 8:35:31 GMT
There was myself, and one other person on this board banging the drum for Galtier when we fired Hughes, and even for the 1st season in the Championship. All ifs and buts of course, but we'd be in a much different place right now if we had. He seems to be a manager that believes in team spirit more than star players. Isnt he one piece of the puzzle though isnt there a decent sporting director at Lille as well? I appreciate that they've got to work together well and the manager has still got to pick the right team and tactics etc.
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Post by shakermaker on May 26, 2021 8:40:47 GMT
There was myself, and one other person on this board banging the drum for Galtier when we fired Hughes, and even for the 1st season in the Championship. All ifs and buts of course, but we'd be in a much different place right now if we had. He seems to be a manager that believes in team spirit more than star players. Presumably you mean at the start of our 2017/18 relegation season as opposed to when Hughes was sacked in January 2018, as Galtier had already been hired by Lille the month before. If you recognised his star qualities back then, all I can say is Stoke should hire you as Director of Football straight away!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 26, 2021 9:53:49 GMT
There was myself, and one other person on this board banging the drum for Galtier when we fired Hughes, and even for the 1st season in the Championship. All ifs and buts of course, but we'd be in a much different place right now if we had. He seems to be a manager that believes in team spirit more than star players. Presumably you mean at the start of our 2017/18 relegation season as opposed to when Hughes was sacked in January 2018, as Galtier had already been hired by Lille the month before. If you recognised his star qualities back then, all I can say is Stoke should hire you as Director of Football straight away!! Quite a few did at the time to be fair, as part of a conversation about why it might be a better idea to look abroad rather than the usual suspects here. It was before Hughes was sacked as it had been clear for a while that he needed to go.
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Post by lordb on May 26, 2021 11:04:29 GMT
I see Wolves prospective new manager doesn't meet the work permit criteria
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 27, 2021 9:26:40 GMT
Bit odd.....
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Post by FullerMagic on May 27, 2021 9:31:34 GMT
It was floated earlier in the week, wasn't it? But that would be absolutely bizarre! Wonder if Kane would stay?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 27, 2021 9:45:04 GMT
Makes a certain amount of sense in that PSG, despite his connections as a player, always seemed a weird fit for him. He's one for developing young players and getting teams punching above their weight, a team of big names and egos always seemed odd.
If I was Man Utd I'd try to gazump Spurs right this minute.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 9:50:46 GMT
It was floated earlier in the week, wasn't it? But that would be absolutely bizarre! Wonder if Kane would stay? Highly unlikely story. Kane didn't win anything in the Poch years, so if he's going to add any throphies before his career is up, he has to stay well clear of the Argentinian.
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Post by callas12 on May 27, 2021 9:57:27 GMT
It was floated earlier in the week, wasn't it? But that would be absolutely bizarre! Wonder if Kane would stay? Highly unlikely story. Kane didn't win anything in the Poch years, so if he's going to add any throphies before his career is up, he has to stay well clear of the Argentinian. Yep agreed. Don't think this would be a deal clincher for Kane at all.. Even if Poch did return and created an upturn it would still be seasons away before they won anything as he'd have to begin a rebuilding process & that'll be time Kane doesn't really have. Kane leaving could actually be a deal breaker for Poch tho as if Levy gets an expected boat load of cash for Kane, you'd imagine he'd then give the new manager a substantial war chest & tell the new bloke to go out & rebuild which would be music to Poch's ears!!
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Post by thevoid on May 27, 2021 12:15:19 GMT
Spurs should never have sacked him.
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Post by thehoof on May 27, 2021 12:28:58 GMT
When Boskamp took over didn't we have the smallest of squads and hardly enough players to make a team? How we would like to be in that position now, rather than with our huge numbers of non playing players. i think we had 7 contracted players, i actually quite enjoyed that season it was a hell of a roller coaster It was more fun following us away than at home, that’s for sure. Some great away wins!
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Post by thevoid on May 27, 2021 14:23:36 GMT
i think we had 7 contracted players, i actually quite enjoyed that season it was a hell of a roller coaster It was more fun following us away than at home, that’s for sure. Some great away wins! The Boskamp season was better than any of the last three we've had in terms of entertainment. I think we had the best away record after the promoted sides?
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Post by mrteddysalad on May 28, 2021 5:59:07 GMT
A shit manager who still finished above MoN Add Rowett to that as well both managers have proved to be better than MON over the last season. We are heading for league 1 next season with our current manager. They’re the two tossers that left MON this crap squad full of wasters
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 28, 2021 10:52:58 GMT
Add Rowett to that as well both managers have proved to be better than MON over the last season. We are heading for league 1 next season with our current manager. They’re the two tossers that left MON this crap squad full of wasters It's like banging your head against a brick wall.......
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 28, 2021 13:20:22 GMT
Spurs should never have sacked him. Come on down Mark Hughes , im pretty sire we would 14th in the championship if we hadn't hindsight is hugely powerful but his record suggests we have just appointed series of inferior managers ever since courage of their convictions in admitting the mistake
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2021 13:21:40 GMT
Spurs should never have sacked him. Come on down Mark Hughes , im pretty sire we would 14th in the championship if we hadn't hindsight is hugely powerful but his record suggests we have just appointed series of inferior managers ever since courage of their convictions in admitting the mistake Do you mean shouldn't have been sacked at that point in time or shouldn't have been sacked full stop?
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 28, 2021 14:09:59 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on May 28, 2021 14:32:18 GMT
Very odd. He's looked nailed-on for that for weeks
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 28, 2021 14:32:55 GMT
Very odd. He's looked nailed-on for that for weeks Fancies the Palace job maybe?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2021 14:43:34 GMT
Very odd. He's looked nailed-on for that for weeks Fancies the Palace job maybe? Could see him not wanting to go that far north. The Palace job looks like an absolute stinker next season though tbf.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 28, 2021 15:50:52 GMT
Fancies the Palace job maybe? Could see him not wanting to go that far north. The Palace job looks like an absolute stinker next season though tbf. It says talks fell down as they wouldn't let him bring his own backroom team in. 6 months punditry playing the waiting game no doubt then........
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 29, 2021 15:52:26 GMT
Got to be Palace surely?
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Post by dirtclod on May 29, 2021 16:00:19 GMT
I read somewhere it was due to him not being ready to step into a job right now. Sounds like waiting on something else? Family time?
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