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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 14, 2022 6:45:42 GMT
That sounds like quite a coup to me! It just looks like a bit of a roll of the dice to me. He's won the Swedish League and not really done much else as far as I can see? It is but aren’t they all. He looks a similar appointment to Potter when he came to the UK. Wish we’d have rolled that dice instead of Rowett or mad Nath. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 14, 2022 7:03:10 GMT
It just looks like a bit of a roll of the dice to me. He's won the Swedish League and not really done much else as far as I can see? It is but aren’t they all. He looks a similar appointment to Potter when he came to the UK. Wish we’d have rolled that dice instead of Rowett or mad Nath. I don't think it does to be honest, the only similarity is that they've both done well in Sweden. The big differences are that Potter took a fourth division team and turned them into a Europa League side, whereas Tomasson won the league with one of the biggest clubs in Sweden having flopped twice in the Eredivisie, a league that Steve McClaren managed to make himself look halfway competent in. I'm not averse to gambles at all, I think I'd just want to see a bit more on a CV. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 14, 2022 7:23:47 GMT
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Post by senojbor on Jun 14, 2022 7:29:47 GMT
It just looks like a bit of a roll of the dice to me. He's won the Swedish League and not really done much else as far as I can see? It is but aren’t they all. He looks a similar appointment to Potter when he came to the UK. Wish we’d have rolled that dice instead of Rowett or mad Nath. Why do you assume he'd do any better? I don't. All the managers we've had are not all poor managers. Look what Jones has done at Luton. Our problem lies with the club itself. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 14, 2022 7:32:32 GMT
It is but aren’t they all. He looks a similar appointment to Potter when he came to the UK. Wish we’d have rolled that dice instead of Rowett or mad Nath. Why do you assume he'd do any better? I don't. All the managers we've had are not all poor managers. Look what Jones has done at Luton. Our problem lies with the club itself. I don’t simply assume he’d do better. I’d hope he’d do better and assume our football would be better to watch. I’d like both but one would be a nice start. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 14, 2022 7:40:15 GMT
It is but aren’t they all. He looks a similar appointment to Potter when he came to the UK. Wish we’d have rolled that dice instead of Rowett or mad Nath. Why do you assume he'd do any better? I don't. All the managers we've had are not all poor managers. Look what Jones has done at Luton. Our problem lies with the club itself. They were poor for us though. The mitigation only works to a degree, they still dropped numerous unfathomable, damaging clangers that have contributed to this mess. Nobody made Jones sign the wrong players for his system or change his team in a panic every week. Nobody forced Rowett to spunk a load of money on ill-fitting dreck. Nobody made MON chop and change his system and personnel from week to week or sign players that didn't fit how he wanted to play, or prevent him signing a combative midfielder. |
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Post by independent on Jun 14, 2022 9:47:32 GMT
Forwards rarely make successful managers. Probably 1 in 100 does., or should that be 1 in a 1000.
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Post by independent on Jun 14, 2022 9:57:26 GMT
Just reading that former Premier league winners Blackburn haven't made the play offs once in their 10 year absence from the top division. Why do our fans feel so entitled? By the way, Blackburn have the same number of Premiership titles as Liverpool.
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Post by thevoid on Jun 14, 2022 10:37:32 GMT
Just reading that former Premier league winners Blackburn haven't made the play offs once in their 10 year absence from the top division. Why do our fans feel so entitled? By the way, Blackburn have the same number of Premiership titles as Liverpool. Our fans don't feel entitled. They're fed up of supporting a poorly managed, archaic football club that's constantly behind the curve. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 14, 2022 10:38:41 GMT
Just reading that former Premier league winners Blackburn haven't made the play offs once in their 10 year absence from the top division. Why do our fans feel so entitled? By the way, Blackburn have the same number of Premiership titles as Liverpool. How does entitlement come into it? They've been even more grossly mismanaged than we have over the years. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 14, 2022 12:01:18 GMT
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Jun 14, 2022 12:23:21 GMT
Read about this yesterday and was quite surprised! Must have impressed in Belgium? |
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 14, 2022 12:25:56 GMT
Surely this suggests that Burnley are not in as much financial trouble as made out? Otherwise, why would he go there? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 14, 2022 12:27:49 GMT
Surely this suggests that Burnley are not in as much financial trouble as made out? Otherwise, why would he go there? His family still live in Cheshire, that would have been a part of it I’m sure…… |
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Post by onepara on Jun 14, 2022 12:31:18 GMT
He'll have first call on all of the Man.City youngsters, now.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 16, 2022 18:57:42 GMT
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 17, 2022 10:43:56 GMT
Michael Appleton confirmed as manager. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 10:53:00 GMT
Just reading that former Premier league winners Blackburn haven't made the play offs once in their 10 year absence from the top division. Why do our fans feel so entitled? By the way, Blackburn have the same number of Premiership titles as Liverpool. If you mean entitled to expect better from our club over the past 5 years, then yes, we are entitled. |
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Post by Davef on Jun 17, 2022 20:38:20 GMT
Just reading that former Premier league winners Blackburn haven't made the play offs once in their 10 year absence from the top division. Why do our fans feel so entitled? By the way, Blackburn have the same number of Premiership titles as Liverpool. If you believe that football was invented in 1992, then yeah, they do have the same amount of "Premiership" titles. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 17, 2022 20:46:21 GMT
Michael Appleton must be bloody brilliant in interviews🤣
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 17, 2022 21:42:11 GMT
It seriously has to be “same shit different day” at this point.
I want my careers officer interview back from forty five years ago.
”I want to manage in one of the two lower professional leagues. I just bumble about for thirty years if that works out for everyone”
Go to the Game forum. There are people on here doing more work on FM22.
Sorry…bit cross there for a mo.
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Post by senojbor on Jun 21, 2022 22:10:00 GMT
Just reading that former Premier league winners Blackburn haven't made the play offs once in their 10 year absence from the top division. Why do our fans feel so entitled? By the way, Blackburn have the same number of Premiership titles as Liverpool. Man City are reckoned to be worth 4 billion quid and win virtually everything. By the way, the owner of Stoke and his family are worth an estimated 12 billion quid and we can't even come close to a play off spot in a league where a team like Luton, who are run on a shoestring budget finish above us. Don't you think we should be doing better? |
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Post by professorplump on Jun 22, 2022 1:08:32 GMT
Just reading that former Premier league winners Blackburn haven't made the play offs once in their 10 year absence from the top division. Why do our fans feel so entitled? By the way, Blackburn have the same number of Premiership titles as Liverpool. Man City are reckoned to be worth 4 billion quid and win virtually everything. By the way, the owner of Stoke and his family are worth an estimated 12 billion quid and we can't even come close to a play off spot in a league where a team like Luton, who are run on a shoestring budget finish above us. Don't you think we should be doing better? If we were actually allowed to spend any of that 12 billion and if our owners had the desire and capability to match Man City's spending, then I dare say we would do much better. |
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Post by senojbor on Jun 22, 2022 2:41:49 GMT
Man City are reckoned to be worth 4 billion quid and win virtually everything. By the way, the owner of Stoke and his family are worth an estimated 12 billion quid and we can't even come close to a play off spot in a league where a team like Luton, who are run on a shoestring budget finish above us. Don't you think we should be doing better? If we were actually allowed to spend any of that 12 billion and if our owners had the desire and capability to match Man City's spending, then I dare say we would do much better. The parachute payments should have helped us enormously, like it does regularly for the yo-yo clubs, Fulham, WBA, Norwich etc but we wasted the opportunity by prioritising paying off Hughes' disastrous signings. However that should be over now and with the new FFP rules surely they can now invest in better players? |
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 22, 2022 4:30:31 GMT
If we were actually allowed to spend any of that 12 billion and if our owners had the desire and capability to match Man City's spending, then I dare say we would do much better. The parachute payments should have helped us enormously, like it does regularly for the yo-yo clubs, Fulham, WBA, Norwich etc but we wasted the opportunity by prioritising paying off Hughes' disastrous signings. However that should be over now and with the new FFP rules surely they can now invest in better players? Can you make head or tails of this?I bloody can't  but it looks like things will be tight for at least another year. |
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Post by lordb on Jun 22, 2022 7:26:42 GMT
If we were actually allowed to spend any of that 12 billion and if our owners had the desire and capability to match Man City's spending, then I dare say we would do much better. The parachute payments should have helped us enormously, like it does regularly for the yo-yo clubs, Fulham, WBA, Norwich etc but we wasted the opportunity by prioritising paying off Hughes' disastrous signings. However that should be over now and with the new FFP rules surely they can now invest in better players? No The short version is we can't splash out because of FFP |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 22, 2022 7:44:08 GMT
The parachute payments should have helped us enormously, like it does regularly for the yo-yo clubs, Fulham, WBA, Norwich etc but we wasted the opportunity by prioritising paying off Hughes' disastrous signings. However that should be over now and with the new FFP rules surely they can now invest in better players? Can you make head or tails of this?I bloody can't but it looks like things will be tight for at least another year. The new ffp rules that I’ve read about haven’t been introduced yet. Don’t know that much about them other than capping wages at 70% of turnover. Is there actually anything that has changed for the coming season? |
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 22, 2022 8:28:08 GMT
Tomasson and Company would have been great appointments to take over from O'neil. Our owners have plenty of cash but don't have that desire to succeed!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2022 9:04:50 GMT
Tomasson and Company would have been great appointments to take over from O'neil. Our owners have plenty of cash but don't have that desire to succeed!!!!!! Well, they do. The finances the they've spent have proven that before FFP took over. Saying they don't have the desire to succeed is a load of bollocks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2022 9:11:48 GMT
Tomasson and Company would have been great appointments to take over from O'neil. Our owners have plenty of cash but don't have that desire to succeed!!!!!! Tomasson and Company. I'm sure they were a 1980s Scandinavian outdoor clothing company weren't they? |
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but it looks like things will be tight for at least another year.
