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Post by collo68 on May 9, 2021 21:23:21 GMT
Fletcher really ? He’s either injured or recovering from an injury and frankly ain’t that good , I hope we can better than him tbh He’s not ideal but he’s been overused this season and that hasn’t helped. I still think that side is good enough to get the play offs easily if managed correctly. Fletcher is a great sub but let’s be honest if he is the main striker next year we have no chance of promotion as he doesn’t play enough games. We need Campbell/ Doughty and a striker. If we can score goals we don’t need anything else as we have priced that with the clean sheets so any money needs to go a striker
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 9, 2021 21:27:14 GMT
He’s not ideal but he’s been overused this season and that hasn’t helped. I still think that side is good enough to get the play offs easily if managed correctly. Fletcher is a great sub but let’s be honest if he is the main striker next year we have no chance of promotion as he doesn’t play enough games. We need Campbell/ Doughty and a striker. If we can score goals we don’t need anything else as we have priced that with the clean sheets so any money needs to go a striker John Coates was desperate to get Delap in January so let’s hope that’s still there
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on May 10, 2021 1:08:42 GMT
I'm not sure of how FFP works. Could we just pay out the contracts of those we don't want? It would probably equal about 5 minutes of Denise's salary to do that...??
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Post by heworksardtho on May 10, 2021 6:02:39 GMT
Keep any who want to play for the shirt the rest can go
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Post by heworksardtho on May 10, 2021 6:04:06 GMT
Fletcher is a great sub but let’s be honest if he is the main striker next year we have no chance of promotion as he doesn’t play enough games. We need Campbell/ Doughty and a striker. If we can score goals we don’t need anything else as we have priced that with the clean sheets so any money needs to go a striker John Coates was desperate to get Delap in January so let’s hope that’s still there Bayern I was desperate to get Kelly Brook I think we have more chance
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 10, 2021 9:28:56 GMT
I’d like to see the following players go.
Gunn Edwards Allen Indi Etebo Sorenson Tymon Vokes Bauer Gregory
The not too sure selection
McClean Cousins Oakley Boothe Fletcher
I’d keep
Davies Bursik Smith Chester Batth Collins Souttar Fox Thompson Clucas Mikel Powell Brown Campbell
I’d also like to keep Matondo (possible), RND (possible) and Clarke (no chance)
On the whole the defence has been ok but if we can improve on what we've got then great and we definitely need another right back.
It's up front and attacking midfield we've had issues and that's where we need to invest what we can afford to invest.
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Post by cheadlepotter on May 10, 2021 10:05:13 GMT
Isn’t Allen on £50k a week? We’d be lucky to get half of that paid elsewhere.
Keep: Davies, Bursik, Collins, Souttar, Powell, Campbell, Doughty (obviously) and the youth. I couldn’t care less about the rest but who’s going to have them?!
Bursik Nyambe(free) Collins Souttar Cirkin(loan) Mowatt(free) Gilmour(loan) Doughty Powell Campbell Delap(loan)
I can dream.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 10, 2021 10:25:36 GMT
He’s not ideal but he’s been overused this season and that hasn’t helped. I still think that side is good enough to get the play offs easily if managed correctly. Fletcher is a great sub but let’s be honest if he is the main striker next year we have no chance of promotion as he doesn’t play enough games. We need Campbell/ Doughty and a striker. If we can score goals we don’t need anything else as we have priced that with the clean sheets so any money needs to go a striker A striker needs to be fed. Our central midfield is shit.
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 10, 2021 10:41:09 GMT
I generally agree. We should move out everyone over 30 by sale, loan, pay off that we are able to, and concentrate on building a young team squad for 22-23. It's too young an average. And we definitely can use Mikel's leadership for another season. We should concentrate on building up our tounger players that they may soon enough be the nucleus of the team. But that day isn't yet. 👍. It’s got to be a blend of ages/experience, something we don’t have at the moment. Hopefully improved quality and pace.
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Post by LGH87 on May 10, 2021 11:08:13 GMT
Davies - Keep Bursik - Keep Gunn - Send back Blondy - Loan
Smith - Keep but we need better Coates - Loan Bauer - Loan/Sell
Chester - Keep Batth - Sell Souttar - Keep Collins - Keep Wimmer - Loan/Sell Forrester - Keep Taylor - Loan
Fox - Keep but better needed
Mikel - Keep Clucas - Sell Allen - Sell Thompson - Keep Cousins - All but gone already TOB - Keep / Maybe could use a loan Woods - Sell Etebo - Sell
Powell - Keep at all costs
Brown - Keep Ince - Sell/Loan
McClean - Sell/loan Tymon - Keep but we need better Doughty - Obviously keep
Fletcher - Keep Campbell - Keep Vokes - Sell / Loan / send to the glue factory Gregory - Sell Afobe - Sell
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 10, 2021 11:33:51 GMT
Wonder if we'd stand a chance, re. FFP of getting Iorfa from Sheff Wed for right back? Absolutely rapid and still only 25. When they mentioned him in commentary the other day, I thought the same. However, he's another who has an awful injury record.
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Post by ashleyscfc on May 10, 2021 11:39:38 GMT
GK: Gunn - Keep Backup Davies - Keep Starts Bursik - Loan Out (with recall clause) Noukeu - Loan Out
Defence: Fox - Keep Backup Batth - Keep Backup Chester - Sell Smith - Keep Starts Collins - Keep Starts Souttar - Keep Starts Tymon - Sell RND - Keep Starts
Midfield: Allen - Sell Clucas - Keep Starts Mikel - Keep Backup Cousins - Sell Thompson - Sell Oakley-Boothe - Sell Sorensen - Keep Backup
Powell - Keep Starts
Wingers Matando - Loan In Doughty - Keep Backup McClean - Sell
Strikers: Vokes - Sell Fletcher - Sell Campbell - Keep Starts Brown - Sell Norton - Keep Backup
Out On Loan: Edwards - Keep Backup Lindsay - Sell Ince - Sell Etebo - Keep Afobe - Sell BMI - Sell Gregory - Sell Ndiaye - Sell Bauer - Sell Wimmer - Sell Woods - Sell
Sell (x19) Loan Out (x2)
Loan In (x2) Buys Needed (x5): Striker, Winger, CM, CAM, LB
Starting 11 2021/2022:
Davies Smith Souttar Collins RND Etebo Clucas Campbell Powell New Player New Player
Bench: Gunn Fox Bathh Sorensen Mikel Matondo Doughty Fletcher Norton
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Post by Rick Grimes on May 10, 2021 11:41:30 GMT
I’d love to keep hold of the outstanding youngsters like Collins and Souttar but I’m resigned to losing maybe at least one of them.
Powell is the man to build the side around. Davies in goal, Bursik as back up. If we can back out of loaning Gunn next season then we should do. Fletcher is decent but this season has proven we can’t rely on him to play all the games, same as Mikel. I’d keep them around but we need players who can replace them, or vice versa. Hopefully Tyrese stays fit enough. Brown is a good utility player.
Other than the youngsters and the players mentioned above I wouldn’t lose any sleep should anyone else leave and hopefully MON can recruit wisely if we manage to somehow get rid of big earners like Clucas.
Doughty is an unknown quantity so it will be interesting to see how he fits in.
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Post by independent on May 10, 2021 12:00:19 GMT
We can get by with our defence if we have to. We need 2 really good midfielders and a striker who can score goals. A mobile defensive midfielder to assist Mikel and a Creative midfielder who can run. Goals change games and if we had scored in even half of the drawn games when we were on top, then we'd easily have been in the play offs this season. If the opposition know that you are unlikely to score, it gives them the confidence to push up on you. If you have a goal threat they are less likely to commit men forward and this allows your own midfield more time to play. Please, no more Vokes.
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Post by thehoof on May 10, 2021 12:35:44 GMT
Do you really think we’re going to premier league with fucking Mikel in midfield? He has been our stand out player the last weeks if you ask me! Shame about the 30 weeks that preceded the last few. He’s not the answer but unfortunately probably the best of what we have which goes a long way to explaining why this season has been at best, average.
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Post by thehoof on May 10, 2021 13:04:56 GMT
Fletcher is a great sub but let’s be honest if he is the main striker next year we have no chance of promotion as he doesn’t play enough games. We need Campbell/ Doughty and a striker. If we can score goals we don’t need anything else as we have priced that with the clean sheets so any money needs to go a striker A striker needs to be fed. Our central midfield is shit. A Striker does need to be fed- in Fletcher’s case quite a lot, as he’s not a clinical finisher. Your point about the midfield is correct.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 10, 2021 15:13:21 GMT
He has been our stand out player the last weeks if you ask me! Shame about the 30 weeks that preceded the last few. He’s not the answer but unfortunately probably the best of what we have which goes a long way to explaining why this season has been at best, average. Fully fit he is probably the best midfielder in this division! My concern is his age and if he can keep fit for a full season.
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Post by thehoof on May 10, 2021 16:03:55 GMT
Shame about the 30 weeks that preceded the last few. He’s not the answer but unfortunately probably the best of what we have which goes a long way to explaining why this season has been at best, average. Fully fit he is probably the best midfielder in this division! My concern is his age and if he can keep fit for a full season. Sorry Rob, can’t agree- he couldn’t do 90 minutes at Boro, he certainly can’t do it at Stoke; he would be a bit part midfielder ( and very good in that role) in any of the top 8 teams in the Division. He has been a great player, and he does have the odd moment in the Sun even now, but his days of being a dominant midfielder are gone. He’d be useful in a team with midfielders who have plenty of energy and who can make his need to move secondary to his touch on the ball- sadly we haven’t got any of those.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 10, 2021 16:31:38 GMT
A striker needs to be fed. Our central midfield is shit. A Striker does need to be fed- in Fletcher’s case quite a lot, as he’s not a clinical finisher. Your point about the midfield is correct. I’d chuck the whole of the centre mid in the bin and start again with players who are good at specific roles. Ours seem to do a bit of everything and non of it particularly well. A couple of enforcers ,a couple of ball players and a couple of highly mobile players who will drive forward with the ball. If you had those you should always be able to find the right blend for the game you’re facing.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 10, 2021 16:43:34 GMT
Fully fit he is probably the best midfielder in this division! My concern is his age and if he can keep fit for a full season. Sorry Rob, can’t agree- he couldn’t do 90 minutes at Boro, he certainly can’t do it at Stoke; he would be a bit part midfielder ( and very good in that role) in any of the top 8 teams in the Division. He has been a great player, and he does have the odd moment in the Sun even now, but his days of being a dominant midfielder are gone. He’d be useful in a team with midfielders who have plenty of energy and who can make his need to move secondary to his touch on the ball- sadly we haven’t got any of those. We are all entitled to our own opinions so we just have to agree we disagree on this one.
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