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Post by boskampsflaps on May 8, 2021 10:52:25 GMT
I’d have played Coates for starters. Like I say hopefully some more of the kids get a run out at least. Would you have risked all the kids getting a spanking, or blooded them in depending on how the game is going? A stronger midfield would have been better help to them I think but its good to see a few more in and around, better late than never I guess.
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Post by withnall on May 8, 2021 10:53:24 GMT
First sub will be Vokes 70 mins and then last few minutes a few of the youngsters You forgot to add a late Vokes hat trick to win the game. Started on the piss nice and early
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2021 10:55:29 GMT
I’d expect that side to win against the majority of teams in this division. Surprise, Surprise it's Cilla here! That team should beat more than half the league. Easy.
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Post by xchpotter on May 8, 2021 10:56:11 GMT
There’s always a positive......this could possibly be the last time we may have to see Vokes on the pitch for us if we get lucky in the summer and offload him somehow.
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Post by scfcwebby on May 8, 2021 10:58:05 GMT
I’d have played Coates for starters. Like I say hopefully some more of the kids get a run out at least. Would you have risked all the kids getting a spanking, or blooded them in depending on how the game is going? How the game is going is completely irrelevant with MON and his pre determined subs.
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Post by scfcno1fan on May 8, 2021 10:58:58 GMT
Why would smith start?
Surely you give some of the youngsters more of a game.
It’s a complete nothing fixture.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:01:44 GMT
If there's nothing else to be excited about, I'm absolutely delighted that Forrester has been picked to play from the start.
I suppose in a manner of saying, he's been preferred to Vokes. Not directly, of course, but MON could have gone for a different formation, played Mikel at the back, Cousins sitting in front, and Vokes up front. But for once MON shows a little courage.
Forrester's been captain of the u23 for a whole year. After maybe a nervous start I wouldn't be surprised if he starts bossing Smith and Batth. The Lord knows they need it...
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:03:29 GMT
Surprise, Surprise it's Cilla here! That team should beat more than half the league. Easy. With respect, you're talking absolute shit mate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2021 11:05:15 GMT
That team should beat more than half the league. Easy. With respect, you're talking absolute shit mate. This league is wank and that team has more than enough to beat the bottom half of the league.
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Post by franklin on May 8, 2021 11:07:37 GMT
Vokes apart great bench I hope quite a few get a run out. I think Vokes is on the bench to form a wind break and to keep the rain off the kids.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:08:14 GMT
Good to see Sparrow on the bench too. He's technically still an u18 player but has played, and often starred, in the u23s all season till he was injured.
On the one hand I wouldn't expect MON to play him - he would have him sit on the bench for months first, on the other he is that Stoke novelty, a dead ball specialist! Not saying he scores every time, but he knows what he's doing on the ball, that's for sure. If we're not winning late in the game, Sparrow could fly in to be a gamechanger.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2021 11:10:41 GMT
Back 3 apparently
Davies Forrester Batth RND Smith Clucas Mikel Thompson Tymon Brown Matondo
according to Andy Cousins on Radio Stoke
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Post by lordb on May 8, 2021 11:11:33 GMT
If there's nothing else to be excited about, I'm absolutely delighted that Forrester has been picked to play from the start. I suppose in a manner of saying, he's been preferred to Vokes. Not directly, of course, but MON could have gone for a different formation, played Mikel at the back, Cousins sitting in front, and Vokes up front. But for once MON shows a little courage. Forrester's been captain of the u23 for a whole year. After maybe a nervous start I wouldn't be surprised if he starts bossing Smith and Batth. The Lord knows they need it... At no point has O'Neill played Mikel or any other midfielder at the back, over and over again he has gone with the young defender with an experienced player alongside. He brought Taylor on the other week when he could simply have switched to 4 at the back, he stopped Souttar going out on loan when he was set to go, he played Collins last season when other managers wouldn't. Expecting any manager to blood several youngsters at once away to a top six side is pure fantasy, it's never going to happen Now it is fair to criticize him for not giving Coates a game by now he's the obvious one to come in Norton has had game time and done OK As for the other young players imho they are ,well, not ready for this level imho. Where I think the club is falling down is not getting enough of them out on development loans There's at least half a dozen who could really do with a season in League two,or even the National League. Given how much Wright Phillips is on he must be earmarked for first team sooner rather than later
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:14:09 GMT
With respect, you're talking absolute shit mate. This league is wank and that team has more than enough to beat the bottom half of the league. I reckon, if could be arsed, I could find threads where you have said that pretty much every player in that first team isn't anywhere near good enough. Now, because you think our manager is a "coward" and not good enough, you are saying that team should be plenty good enough to beat most teams in this league "easily". Then you went from "most teams" to "the bottom half" in a couple of posts You couldn't make the stuff up that you post at times, well, nobody else could anyway.
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Post by mickstupp on May 8, 2021 11:16:57 GMT
Surprise, Surprise it's Cilla here! That team should beat more than half the league. Easy. It genuinely wouldn’t beat half the teams in league 1. It’s one the worst Stoke City sides I’ve ever seen us put out.
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Post by christhepotter on May 8, 2021 11:17:53 GMT
That team should beat more than half the league. Easy. With respect, you're talking absolute shit mate. Why is he , that’s an ok team , a decent managers gets them beating half the teams in the league , and means the worser teams 🤦♂️
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:19:08 GMT
If there's nothing else to be excited about, I'm absolutely delighted that Forrester has been picked to play from the start. I suppose in a manner of saying, he's been preferred to Vokes. Not directly, of course, but MON could have gone for a different formation, played Mikel at the back, Cousins sitting in front, and Vokes up front. But for once MON shows a little courage. Forrester's been captain of the u23 for a whole year. After maybe a nervous start I wouldn't be surprised if he starts bossing Smith and Batth. The Lord knows they need it... At no point has O'Neill played Mikel or any other midfielder at the back, over and over again he has gone with the young defender with an experienced player alongside. He brought Taylor on the other week when he could simply have switched to 4 at the back, he stopped Souttar going out on loan when he was set to go, he played Collins last season when other managers wouldn't. Expecting any manager to blood several youngsters at once away to a top six side is pure fantasy, it's never going to happen Now it is fair to criticize him for not giving Coates a game by now he's the obvious one to come in Norton has had game time and done OK As for the other young players imho they are ,well, not ready for this level imho. Where I think the club is falling down is not getting enough of them out on development loans There's at least half a dozen who could really do with a season in League two,or even the National League. Given how much Wright Phillips is on he must be earmarked for first team sooner rather than later Imagine that! I actually praise MON for his team selection and the lort instantly blows a fuse...
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Post by lordb on May 8, 2021 11:22:03 GMT
At no point has O'Neill played Mikel or any other midfielder at the back, over and over again he has gone with the young defender with an experienced player alongside. He brought Taylor on the other week when he could simply have switched to 4 at the back, he stopped Souttar going out on loan when he was set to go, he played Collins last season when other managers wouldn't. Expecting any manager to blood several youngsters at once away to a top six side is pure fantasy, it's never going to happen Now it is fair to criticize him for not giving Coates a game by now he's the obvious one to come in Norton has had game time and done OK As for the other young players imho they are ,well, not ready for this level imho. Where I think the club is falling down is not getting enough of them out on development loans There's at least half a dozen who could really do with a season in League two,or even the National League. Given how much Wright Phillips is on he must be earmarked for first team sooner rather than later Imagine that! I actually praise MON for his team selection and the lort instantly blows a fuse... Ok you got me there...🙂 Would you agree re loaning out the likes of Porter,Malone,Sparrow, Macari , Taylor and probably Coates and Norton?
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 8, 2021 11:25:00 GMT
If there's nothing else to be excited about, I'm absolutely delighted that Forrester has been picked to play from the start. I suppose in a manner of saying, he's been preferred to Vokes. Not directly, of course, but MON could have gone for a different formation, played Mikel at the back, Cousins sitting in front, and Vokes up front. But for once MON shows a little courage. Forrester's been captain of the u23 for a whole year. After maybe a nervous start I wouldn't be surprised if he starts bossing Smith and Batth. The Lord knows they need it... At no point has O'Neill played Mikel or any other midfielder at the back, over and over again he has gone with the young defender with an experienced player alongside. He brought Taylor on the other week when he could simply have switched to 4 at the back, he stopped Souttar going out on loan when he was set to go, he played Collins last season when other managers wouldn't. Expecting any manager to blood several youngsters at once away to a top six side is pure fantasy, it's never going to happen Now it is fair to criticize him for not giving Coates a game by now he's the obvious one to come in Norton has had game time and done OK As for the other young players imho they are ,well, not ready for this level imho. Where I think the club is falling down is not getting enough of them out on development loans There's at least half a dozen who could really do with a season in League two,or even the National League. Given how much Wright Phillips is on he must be earmarked for first team sooner rather than later 👍. MON has repeatedly stated that he has a number of lads who are not ready for the Championship (he gets slaughtered for that) and he wants 5hem out on loan to aid their development.
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Post by lordb on May 8, 2021 11:26:37 GMT
At no point has O'Neill played Mikel or any other midfielder at the back, over and over again he has gone with the young defender with an experienced player alongside. He brought Taylor on the other week when he could simply have switched to 4 at the back, he stopped Souttar going out on loan when he was set to go, he played Collins last season when other managers wouldn't. Expecting any manager to blood several youngsters at once away to a top six side is pure fantasy, it's never going to happen Now it is fair to criticize him for not giving Coates a game by now he's the obvious one to come in Norton has had game time and done OK As for the other young players imho they are ,well, not ready for this level imho. Where I think the club is falling down is not getting enough of them out on development loans There's at least half a dozen who could really do with a season in League two,or even the National League. Given how much Wright Phillips is on he must be earmarked for first team sooner rather than later 👍. MON has repeatedly stated that he has a number of lads who are not ready for the Championship (he gets slaughtered for that) and he wants 5hem out on loan to aid their development. Yes but I don't think it's up to him re U23 players being loaned out
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2021 11:28:25 GMT
This league is wank and that team has more than enough to beat the bottom half of the league. I reckon, if could be arsed, I could find threads where you have said that pretty much every player in that first team isn't anywhere near good enough. Now, because you think our manager is a "coward" and not good enough, you are saying that team should be plenty good enough to beat most teams in this league "easily". Then you went from "most teams" to "the bottom half" in a couple of posts You couldn't make the stuff up that you post at times, well, nobody else could anyway. And? I have high expectations. This league is shit and shit players can still do ok in it. This side is one that should do ok in this league. No I said majority, more than half is a majority 😂So that’s a non starter!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2021 11:29:06 GMT
That team should beat more than half the league. Easy. It genuinely wouldn’t beat half the teams in league 1. It’s one the worst Stoke City sides I’ve ever seen us put out. Dramatic horse spunk.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:29:50 GMT
Imagine that! I actually praise MON for his team selection and the lort instantly blows a fuse... Ok you got me there...🙂 Would you agree re loaning out the likes of Porter,Malone,Sparrow, Macari , Taylor and probably Coates and Norton? I don't think I have a say in the matter. What confuses me is that when MON was hired he said he was not in favour of the loan system, because he'd had some unhappy experiences in his own playing days. He may have changed his tune.
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Post by bloodtypered on May 8, 2021 11:37:50 GMT
Forrester, my son's school friend.....well done
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:41:18 GMT
Surprise, Surprise it's Cilla here! That team should beat more than half the league. Easy. Make up your mind Bayern. Last week your were condemning Batth and Smith. You routinely do the same to Thompson and Brown, Davies is seemingly somewhere around the average mark and you’ve said that Tymon isn’t good enough, unless possibly in centre mid. So at least half the starting 11 is poor/scraping by, yet it’s good enough to beat more than half the teams in the league?
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Post by mickstupp on May 8, 2021 11:42:49 GMT
It genuinely wouldn’t beat half the teams in league 1. It’s one the worst Stoke City sides I’ve ever seen us put out. Dramatic horse spunk. It’s a league 1 line up. There’s not a single player in that team who you could build a championship promotion side around. Not a single one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2021 11:43:38 GMT
That team should beat more than half the league. Easy. Make up your mind Bayern. Last week your were condemning Batth and Smith. You routinely do the same to Thompson and Brown, Davies is seemingly somewhere around the average mark and you’ve said that Tymon isn’t good enough, unless possibly in centre mid. So at least half the starting 11 is poor/scraping by, yet it’s good enough to beat more than half the teams in the league? Yeah they’re shit but this league is really shit. Id expect this team to finish mid table in this league. I don’t think that’s good enough.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:47:34 GMT
With respect, you're talking absolute shit mate. Why is he , that’s an ok team , a decent managers gets them beating half the teams in the league , and means the worser teams 🤦♂️ Ay up here comes another one.
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Post by christhepotter on May 8, 2021 11:48:43 GMT
Why is he , that’s an ok team , a decent managers gets them beating half the teams in the league , and means the worser teams 🤦♂️ Ay up here comes another one. Yep another who’s not a thick cunt like you , theirs plenty of us actually
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:49:19 GMT
Make up your mind Bayern. Last week your were condemning Batth and Smith. You routinely do the same to Thompson and Brown, Davies is seemingly somewhere around the average mark and you’ve said that Tymon isn’t good enough, unless possibly in centre mid. So at least half the starting 11 is poor/scraping by, yet it’s good enough to beat more than half the teams in the league? Yeah they’re shit but this league is really shit. Id expect this team to finish mid table in this league. I don’t think that’s good enough. Keep digging
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