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Clucas?
May 9, 2021 21:31:08 GMT
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Post by LankyPotter on May 9, 2021 21:31:08 GMT
Its a shame but I can understand it, if he won't take a pay cut with us then the finances come first, unfortunately it'll probably mean we'll be stuck with more like Thompson for the foreseeable. Thompson has been steady at worst since he signed mate. |
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Clucas?
May 9, 2021 22:02:18 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on May 9, 2021 22:02:18 GMT
You make a good point but, every player gets grief occasionally. Reacting was never going to produce a positive outcome. Pathetic from the player, pathetic from supporters for being upset by it too. Did Ryan once shush the crowd or am I imagining it? Thought his wife went on Twitter to defend him. |
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Clucas?
May 9, 2021 22:29:41 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 9, 2021 22:29:41 GMT
I like Clucas but he's the wrong side of 30 and we need to build for the future.
It's best for all concerned if we can get him off the wage bill in the summer.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 22:35:23 GMT
Would like to have him fully fit next season if possible .
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 9, 2021 22:41:46 GMT
Would like to have him fully fit next season if possible . I'd rather the manager who gets paid to manage actually be a manager and manage Etebo properly instead. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 22:44:11 GMT
Would like to have him fully fit next season if possible . I'd rather the manager who gets paid to manage actually be a manager and manage Etebo properly instead. I would and he's managed players well to be fair in signing contracts. etc We don't the whole picture but would love him to play |
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 9, 2021 22:47:52 GMT
I'd rather the manager who gets paid to manage actually be a manager and manage Etebo properly instead. I would and he's managed players well to be fair in signing contracts. etc We don't the whole picture but would love him to play Well when you're a manager you can't just pick and choose who you want to manage, you have to take the rough with the smooth and that's what makes you a good manager. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 22:50:08 GMT
I would and he's managed players well to be fair in signing contracts. etc We don't the whole picture but would love him to play Well when you're a manager you can't just pick and choose who you want to manage, you have to take the rough with the smooth and that's what makes you a good manager. For all we know he could have tried everything in his power. Like yourself would love to see him in next season's squad. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 23:47:41 GMT
Pathetic from the player, pathetic from supporters for being upset by it too. Did Ryan once shush the crowd or am I imagining it? Thought his wife went on Twitter to defend him. Your memory serves you well. This time. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 10, 2021 0:25:16 GMT
Its a shame but I can understand it, if he won't take a pay cut with us then the finances come first, unfortunately it'll probably mean we'll be stuck with more like Thompson for the foreseeable. Thompson has been steady at worst since he signed mate. Imo steady is the best he's been in a handful of games, there's nothing to him. |
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Post by J-Roar on May 10, 2021 7:05:20 GMT
Did Ryan once shush the crowd or am I imagining it? Thought his wife went on Twitter to defend him. Your memory serves you well. This time. No flack over that though? Seems to be a mortal sin when some players do it. Could be some supporters are just mardarses who decide when and when not to be offended. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 9:38:36 GMT
Your memory serves you well. This time. No flack over that though? Seems to be a mortal sin when some players do it. Could be some supporters are just mardarses who decide when and when not to be offended. The difference was Shawcross was doing it as an individual. Clucas led a gang of players who mocked the fans. |
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Post by thehoof on May 10, 2021 13:12:38 GMT
Not bothered about him at all.
Has moments of genuine quality, like his pass for Smith’s goal,and is ( over his career) good for 5 to 6 goals a season.
Does that outweigh the number of games in which he is a non factor?
In his time here, our best position is 14th - if he goes we could get worse, but there is certainly plenty of scope for improvement without him.
He came injured, he’s spent 40% of this season injured, another one that we have had to spend a fair bit of time without, so I don’t think he’d be missed if we let him go.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 10, 2021 16:09:52 GMT
Not bothered about him at all. Has moments of genuine quality, like his pass for Smith’s goal,and is ( over his career) good for 5 to 6 goals a season. Does that outweigh the number of games in which he is a non factor? In his time here, our best position is 14th - if he goes we could get worse, but there is certainly plenty of scope for improvement without him. He came injured, he’s spent 40% of this season injured, another one that we have had to spend a fair bit of time without, so I don’t think he’d be missed if we let him go. Claims his best position is as a deep lying centre midfielder. I honestly don’t think it is. Better wide left or attacking midfield/10. Does not have the physicality or aggression for the engine room. |
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Clucas?
May 10, 2021 16:52:26 GMT
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Post by questionable on May 10, 2021 16:52:26 GMT
He’s the sort of player that the game totally bypasses and you dont know he’s on the pitch 99% of the time.
For me yet another insane signing that we never needed which pretty much sums up Stoke.
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Clucas?
May 10, 2021 16:57:04 GMT
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 10, 2021 16:57:04 GMT
He’s the sort of player that the game totally bypasses and you dont know he’s on the pitch 99% of the time. For me yet another insane signing that we never needed which pretty much sums up Stoke. Our signing of cm’s has been horrific since N’Zonzi left, we don’t seem to sign them with any specific role in mind. Our recruitment has been pretty piss poor but cm has been the worse by a mile. |
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Post by J-Roar on May 10, 2021 17:51:21 GMT
No flack over that though? Seems to be a mortal sin when some players do it. Could be some supporters are just mardarses who decide when and when not to be offended. The difference was Shawcross was doing it as an individual. Clucas led a gang of players who mocked the fans. Hmm. Bit of a lame argument. Especially as he was the club captain. Not exactly leadership. But good to establish the rules. Lone maverick shusher is ok. Leader of a group of shushers is forever tainted. What about fellow shushers? Please clarify. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 18:11:55 GMT
The difference was Shawcross was doing it as an individual. Clucas led a gang of players who mocked the fans. Hmm. Bit of a lame argument. Especially as he was the club captain. Not exactly leadership. But good to establish the rules. Lone maverick shusher is ok. Leader of a group of shushers is forever tainted. What about fellow shushers? Please clarify. Allen and McClean. Need I say more... I didn't say Shawcross was a model of good behaviour. |
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Post by thehoof on May 10, 2021 18:46:50 GMT
The difference was Shawcross was doing it as an individual. Clucas led a gang of players who mocked the fans. Hmm. Bit of a lame argument. Especially as he was the club captain. Not exactly leadership. But good to establish the rules. Lone maverick shusher is ok. Leader of a group of shushers is forever tainted. What about fellow shushers? Please clarify. I think Shawcross’ performances over a number of seasons and the way he put his body on the line for a club which he gave everything to, gave him a little bit more leeway than a guy who at the time hadn’t made 40 appearances for the club. |
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Clucas?
May 10, 2021 18:54:17 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on May 10, 2021 18:54:17 GMT
Hmm. Bit of a lame argument. Especially as he was the club captain. Not exactly leadership. But good to establish the rules. Lone maverick shusher is ok. Leader of a group of shushers is forever tainted. What about fellow shushers? Please clarify. I think Shawcross’ performances over a number of seasons and the way he put his body on the line for a club which he gave everything to, gave him a little bit more leeway than a guy who at the time hadn’t made 40 appearances for the club. For the heinous crime of shushing? It really upset some of the crowd. |
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Clucas?
May 10, 2021 19:24:01 GMT
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Post by thehoof on May 10, 2021 19:24:01 GMT
I think Shawcross’ performances over a number of seasons and the way he put his body on the line for a club which he gave everything to, gave him a little bit more leeway than a guy who at the time hadn’t made 40 appearances for the club. For the heinous crime of shushing? It really upset some of the crowd. It never works biting the hand that feeds you. You have to ask why none of the fans at his previous clubs ( okay Swansea!) seemed to hold him in particularly fond esteem. If you are producing, by all means have your say- to me, Clucas has had too many ineffectual games to be letting everyone think he’s a dominant figure. Anyway it was a while ago, so if you like him, or if you don’t like him, I would think he has more positive points ( his goals) or more negative points (his ineffective performances) on which to judge him, than shushing. |
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Post by pieofpeter on May 11, 2021 17:30:57 GMT
I like Clucas but your frightened every time he goes in for a tackle incase he gets injured. Decent championship player surely we can get 1-2 million for him but then if him going on a free means we keep Powell then I'm all for it.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 14, 2021 20:04:41 GMT
Nixon has repeated his claim that he's available on a free "until the end of June"
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Post by FullerMagic on May 14, 2021 20:08:42 GMT
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Clucas?
May 14, 2021 20:33:25 GMT
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Post by yyy on May 14, 2021 20:33:25 GMT
Looks like we are trying to clear him early so we can be in a position to offer another free agent a competitive contract when their contract expires
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 14, 2021 20:37:37 GMT
Can't wait to see him shushing the crowd when he returns and scores against us next season. We all know it'll happen.
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Clucas?
May 14, 2021 20:45:23 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 14, 2021 20:45:23 GMT
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Clucas?
May 14, 2021 20:46:22 GMT
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Post by wherty on May 14, 2021 20:46:22 GMT
Swap deal with a Blackburn player more likely to happen.
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Clucas?
May 14, 2021 20:47:00 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on May 14, 2021 20:47:00 GMT
Could there be further penalty clauses in contracts meaning their wages drop further, maybe even linked to another bottom half finish, and the club are offering certain players out for free before a certain cut in date for new terms?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 14, 2021 20:52:22 GMT
Swap deal with a Blackburn player more likely to happen. Presumably one of the ones that they've just taken up an option to extend their deals by a year, but haven't been able to agree anything longer. Nyambe, Rothwell and Rankin-Costello all seem types we may have interest in? |
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