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Post by damagedswan on May 8, 2021 15:03:23 GMT
I'd happily have him on loan again. Only a handful of games at the end yes, but he showed more than enough to suggest he's a useful player. At 20 there's no reason to suspect why he wouldn't be even better next season too.
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 8, 2021 15:07:41 GMT
He seems to have enjoyed his time with us which is strange considering he's barely played.
I'd definitely take him back ahead of Clarke and at the very least, his pace would be a useful asset from the bench
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Post by pottersrule on May 8, 2021 15:09:45 GMT
Do you think? Certainly not the fella who the thread us about surely. I wouldn’t have said so before the last couple of games but he’s worth another couple of starts in these last two dead rubbers surely? Very good call.If the opportunity came to get him again it has to be considered imo.
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Post by lordb on May 8, 2021 15:38:58 GMT
He seems to have enjoyed his time with us which is strange considering he's barely played. I'd definitely take him back ahead of Clarke and at the very least, his pace would be a useful asset from the bench Both back please Clarke is better player for me We need Doughty to be a good signing too
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 8, 2021 15:49:12 GMT
He seems to have enjoyed his time with us which is strange considering he's barely played. I'd definitely take him back ahead of Clarke and at the very least, his pace would be a useful asset from the bench Both back please Clarke is better player for me We need Doughty to be a good signing too Not a fan of Clarke at all
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Post by thedeadlyshart on May 8, 2021 15:49:31 GMT
I don’t think we should bring back either. IMO Matondo and Clarke just don’t seem have the finishing ability to get us the goals we need to do better than mid table.
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Post by march4 on May 8, 2021 15:56:44 GMT
I would lose no sleep if we didn’t see him at SCFC again. Same for Clarke.
They were two loans designed to push us into the play offs. They are not that quality.
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Post by tcdobinghoff on May 8, 2021 16:24:11 GMT
Players have to be a good match to the team and style of play to show at their best. It’s not always the individual’s fault if they don’t shine in a system that doesn’t suit them. Lobbing high, hanging, balls forward to Matondo, Clark or even Ince is never going to work. Matondo has shown in the last few games that that if he gets the ball where he can turn and run he has great potential.if we are going to play hoof ball then there is no point in keeping Matondo or Clark on.
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Post by thehoof on May 8, 2021 16:43:46 GMT
Players have to be a good match to the team and style of play to show at their best. It’s not always the individual’s fault if they don’t shine in a system that doesn’t suit them. Lobbing high, hanging, balls forward to Matondo, Clark or even Ince is never going to work. Matondo has shown in the last few games that that if he gets the ball where he can turn and run he has great potential.if we are going to play hoof ball then there is no point in keeping Matondo or Clark on. Any sort of ball to Ince was / is a complete waste. I really hope that this season is the last I have seen of Tom Ince.
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Post by xchpotter on May 8, 2021 16:53:03 GMT
Players have to be a good match to the team and style of play to show at their best. It’s not always the individual’s fault if they don’t shine in a system that doesn’t suit them. Lobbing high, hanging, balls forward to Matondo, Clark or even Ince is never going to work. Matondo has shown in the last few games that that if he gets the ball where he can turn and run he has great potential.if we are going to play hoof ball then there is no point in keeping Matondo or Clark on. Any sort of ball to Ince was / is a complete waste. I really hope that this season is the last I have seen of Tom Ince. Me too, but I suspect he and a lot of the other wasters will still be hanging around like a bad smell until the very last moment of the loan window when we will be desperate to pay a huge contribution to their wages just to temporarily get rid.
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Post by gawa on May 8, 2021 17:11:54 GMT
I might be wrong here but was there not a clause when we loaned him whereby we could buy him at the end of the season for a fee?
To be fair I think it was quite an expensive fee on hindsight but was under the impression there was some sort of clause like that.
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Post by femark on May 8, 2021 17:21:09 GMT
I might be wrong here but was there not a clause when we loaned him whereby we could buy him at the end of the season for a fee? To be fair I think it was quite an expensive fee on hindsight but was under the impression there was some sort of clause like that. 6 million I think? We’d only of considered that if he fired us to promotion
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Post by Cns on May 8, 2021 17:21:14 GMT
I might be wrong here but was there not a clause when we loaned him whereby we could buy him at the end of the season for a fee? To be fair I think it was quite an expensive fee on hindsight but was under the impression there was some sort of clause like that. There certainly was That fee would be €6million though.
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Post by gawa on May 8, 2021 17:22:14 GMT
I might be wrong here but was there not a clause when we loaned him whereby we could buy him at the end of the season for a fee? To be fair I think it was quite an expensive fee on hindsight but was under the impression there was some sort of clause like that. 6 million I think? We’d only of considered that if he fired us to promotion I might be wrong here but was there not a clause when we loaned him whereby we could buy him at the end of the season for a fee? To be fair I think it was quite an expensive fee on hindsight but was under the impression there was some sort of clause like that. There certainly was That fee would be €6million though. I knew it was some ludicrous amount. Certainly not worth that lol
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Post by clarkeda on May 8, 2021 17:26:40 GMT
6 million I think? We’d only of considered that if he fired us to promotion There certainly was That fee would be €6million though. I knew it was some ludicrous amount. Certainly not worth that lol I don’t think €6m for his is ‘ludicrous’ though, he’s a decent enough player, home grown and has potential. It’s just to much to us atm. However we have recently spent double that amount on Ince and Afobe. And more on Clucas, Woods, mcclean.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 8, 2021 17:35:32 GMT
I knew it was some ludicrous amount. Certainly not worth that lol I don’t think €6m for his is ‘ludicrous’ though, he’s a decent enough player, home grown and has potential. It’s just to much to us atm. However we have recently spent double that amount on Ince and Afobe. And more on Clucas, Woods, mcclean. It might be possible to secure another year's loan with a commitment to buy at an agreed fee in 14 months time at the end of our next financial year. Dunno if his club would agree though. I do agree that 6 million Euros looks a fair deal. I reckon he has a lot of potential.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 8, 2021 17:40:33 GMT
I don’t think €6m for his is ‘ludicrous’ though, he’s a decent enough player, home grown and has potential. It’s just to much to us atm. However we have recently spent double that amount on Ince and Afobe. And more on Clucas, Woods, mcclean. It might be possible to secure another year's loan with a commitment to buy at an agreed fee in 14 months time at the end of our next financial year. Dunno if his club would agree though. I do agree that 6 million Euros looks a fair deal. I reckon he has a lot of potential. Schalke have been relegated, they’re in no position to hold firm over transfer fees you would have thought.
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Post by clarkeda on May 8, 2021 17:47:48 GMT
It might be possible to secure another year's loan with a commitment to buy at an agreed fee in 14 months time at the end of our next financial year. Dunno if his club would agree though. I do agree that 6 million Euros looks a fair deal. I reckon he has a lot of potential. Schalke have been relegated, they’re in no position to hold firm over transfer fees you would have thought. Be interesting to see if they use him next season or just look to cash in. This is the type of player we should be going for now imo.
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Post by mickstupp on May 8, 2021 17:48:27 GMT
That kind of pace is very hard to find. If he can find some composure and an end product then he’s potentially very useful indeed.
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Post by gawa on May 8, 2021 17:51:21 GMT
I knew it was some ludicrous amount. Certainly not worth that lol I don’t think €6m for his is ‘ludicrous’ though, he’s a decent enough player, home grown and has potential. It’s just to much to us atm. However we have recently spent double that amount on Ince and Afobe. And more on Clucas, Woods, mcclean. No, I understand where you're coming from. I just think more that it would be ludicrous to sign him for 6 million considering our current financial position. Pretty sure that would be more spent on one player than we've spent over the last 3 windows
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Post by gingerninja on May 8, 2021 17:53:01 GMT
Looks like he's really popular amongst the group, in fact the team spirit and togetherness certainly stood out today. The players are certainly playing for the manager, despite what some may think.
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Post by spitthedog on May 8, 2021 17:55:54 GMT
I have completely transformed my opinion on him.
I think he could be a bloody useful player.
He was way off the pace when he first played, but is that really all that surprising?
His pace is a nightmare and with these few games his control of the ball has improved, that was a very cool cross for Brown who was unlucky.
I also really liked the way he was always looking to link up with Brown, always looking to anticipate where the next ball was going and putting pressure on their defenders. We have not had that all season apart from Campbell.
I thought Clarke was the better option initially but Matondo looks so much more dynamic and is probably a more versatile option too.
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Post by spitthedog on May 8, 2021 17:57:36 GMT
Looks like he's really popular amongst the group, in fact the team spirit and togetherness certainly stood out today. The players are certainly playing for the manager, despite what some may think. this was so so apparent today. what I liked about today was that every player took responsibility.
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 8, 2021 18:14:38 GMT
I don’t think €6m for his is ‘ludicrous’ though, he’s a decent enough player, home grown and has potential. It’s just to much to us atm. However we have recently spent double that amount on Ince and Afobe. And more on Clucas, Woods, mcclean. It might be possible to secure another year's loan with a commitment to buy at an agreed fee in 14 months time at the end of our next financial year. Dunno if his club would agree though. I do agree that 6 million Euros looks a fair deal. I reckon he has a lot of potential. Not a dig at you at all but why would Rabbi cost 5-6m? He's barely played a game for anyone. Yesterday, rumours emerged of 15m for Souttar yet he's not worth than. 6-7m max in current market apparently. If Rabbi is worth 5-6m, Souttar is worth 20m
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 8, 2021 18:31:05 GMT
His wages aren't that high. The fee is the problem. Maybe Schalke will accept a jacob brown type fee? I think we're selling Souttar or Collins this summer so we will be able to bring in a couple of attacking players.
I think there is a good player there in Matondo
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Post by masne on May 8, 2021 20:00:07 GMT
Played very well today, Do we bring him back on loan next season or is it too little too late? Not a chance. He will go to the Euros, have a good tournament, and secure a good deal, perm or loan, better than us. Shame. M
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Post by yyy on May 8, 2021 20:16:08 GMT
Played very well today, Do we bring him back on loan next season or is it too little too late? Not a chance. He will go to the Euros, have a good tournament, and secure a good deal, perm or loan, better than us. Shame. M It's a good call there is a chance of that but if we can get it secured before the euros with a good price for option to buy we are in a good position. He has only just started playing league football, especially championship football, he's work in progress, we need an option to buy clause if we can loan him incase he does really hit it off. I'd be on the phone tonight confirming a deal for next season if I was the manager. A handful of games and a run in thd team could see him really progress, that's the sort of player we should be signing, imo
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Post by clarkeda on May 8, 2021 20:32:42 GMT
Not a chance. He will go to the Euros, have a good tournament, and secure a good deal, perm or loan, better than us. Shame. M It's a good call there is a chance of that but if we can get it secured before the euros with a good price for option to buy we are in a good position. He has only just started playing league football, especially championship football, he's work in progress, we need an option to buy clause if we can loan him incase he does really hit it off. I'd be on the phone tonight confirming a deal for next season if I was the manager. A handful of games and a run in thd team could see him really progress, that's the sort of player we should be signing, imo Another loan and try and negotiate the fee down a little and I’d be all for that, say we can get it down to like €3-4m future fee, surely we’d be able to afford that after the big contract cull of 22. I think it definitely worth a punt as that’ll be approx the price we paid for brown and I think we can all agree Matondo has far more potential.
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Post by yyy on May 8, 2021 20:42:23 GMT
It's a good call there is a chance of that but if we can get it secured before the euros with a good price for option to buy we are in a good position. He has only just started playing league football, especially championship football, he's work in progress, we need an option to buy clause if we can loan him incase he does really hit it off. I'd be on the phone tonight confirming a deal for next season if I was the manager. A handful of games and a run in thd team could see him really progress, that's the sort of player we should be signing, imo Another loan and try and negotiate the fee down a little and I’d be all for that, say we can get it down to like €3-4m future fee, surely we’d be able to afford that after the big contract cull of 22. I think it definitely worth a punt as that’ll be approx the price we paid for brown and I think we can all agree Matondo has far more potential. Agree, if he can develop his game to add to that pace, he could be a v.good player, considering he has barely had a look in the games he has had considerable minutes he has looked good for a lad who hasn't played league football, everyone needs a few games to get up to speed, that's natural
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Post by stokesupporter on May 8, 2021 21:24:25 GMT
Matondo is the only player atm that gets me to the edge of my seat. We need players like him so I hope his loan can be extended because we already have enough of grafters in our squad.
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