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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2021 10:31:11 GMT
Definitely. You'd think they'd be hoping he gets to a point to be strong enough to fully take part in pre season. And then go from there. So 6 weeks to strenghten his muscles and make sure he's in as good a place to be fitness to undertake pre season and then pre season to get match fit. Seems ideal really? I really hope so but with all the secrecy surrounding the injury I wonder whether there may be a danger it breaks down? Hope not but you can’t say the club have been clear at all about the timeframe? I know all injuries are difficult to fully assess but this one seems the strangest I can recall? They never are clear though? I think they'll be set backs and what not but I didn't think he'd be running yet, even slowly.
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Post by xchpotter on May 24, 2021 10:41:12 GMT
I think it was Shearer who said after his knee ligament injuries that when he got back on the pitch competitively he was running on memory for three months and then hit a massive downwards angle for several weeks and overall it was at least a year from the time of injury to anything like his best. I hope Campbell comes back great and strong, but I’ve got Christmas in my head before we see him properly and consistently.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 25, 2021 19:21:33 GMT
Just watching MON's interview, still sounds like he may be a considerable way off fitness, and there's very little chance of him starting the season
Sounds like Doughty's fit to start pre-season though, so that's positive
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Post by Fred Merger on Jun 25, 2021 19:24:33 GMT
Just watching MON's interview, still sounds like he may be a considerable way off fitness, and there's very little chance of him starting the season Sounds like Doughty's fit to start pre-season though, so that's positive Yes just listened to your link. He didn't seem too confident regarding Tyrese starting the season from the off at all!
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 25, 2021 19:33:51 GMT
Unfortunately with a serious knee injury, like Ty Campbell has suffered, it's by no mean a given he will ever return to full fitness I reckon. It remains a fingers crossed situation.
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Post by nonameface on Jun 25, 2021 19:34:19 GMT
If he's playing by Christmas that's a good thing.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 25, 2021 19:50:57 GMT
There's no need to jump to worse case scenario conclusions, just let it play out.
Although, hearing "the nature of his injury" constantly without any details of said injury is rather annoying.
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 25, 2021 20:01:57 GMT
There's no need to jump to worse case scenario conclusions, just let it play out. Although, hearing "the nature of his injury" constantly without any details of said injury is rather annoying. Whether people jump or don't jump to conclusions on here it must certainly be hoped that the manager is acutely aware of where the player stands regards a return to regular first team football.. and if that is to be expected. We're going to struggle getting in a replacement striker that's for sure, unless one of the young players can step up this coming season.
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Post by bloodtypered on Jun 25, 2021 20:21:22 GMT
Bluffing... MON doesn't want offers
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Post by lordb on Jun 25, 2021 21:08:14 GMT
We have to get a goalscorer in If Tyres is way off then we may have to get another on loan too
Going to be tough
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Post by davethebass on Jun 26, 2021 0:38:20 GMT
Yes there are several examples of pro athletes who have developed specific muscle groups so well that they can actually overpower the joints. Bo Jackson had a set of legs so strong that just making a cut caused him to over power and shatter his hip joint. You would have never seen something like this years ago. They've documented that weight lifting technology now does a MUCH better job of targeting a specific muscle or muscle group - often NOT to the benefit of the overall body. And Tyrese - he's an "explosive" player who expends an inordinate amount of energy in quick bursts. The opposite of say, of a marathon runner used to using the muscles for longer periods of time - but distance runners aren't as fast in quick bursts. I view him more as a cheetah not as a lion - a whole different cat...literally. Football teams are full of marathon runners out of necessity - they should be, look at the distances they have to cover in a match! So a cheetah tends to stand out, for brief periods. And Cheetahs are good at conserving their energy until the right moment - I've actually watch him do this over the course of a game. Sometimes it translates into a player that doesn't "track back" like fans think he should. (Along with false accusations of "lazy" or "not match fit") But if Tyrese ran around like Joe Allen? We wouldn't be talking about missing him right now. The kid's an athlete, one who if he set his mind to it could play several other sports on a very high level. You can't "teach" speed. Sprinters are born, distance runners are made. (Via extensive hard work, dedication and masochism) I say use him like a Cheetah, when a herd of wildebeests gets winded after escaping the lions - time to bring in Tyrese. Sorry for rambling, but this is more complex than even all of this. Just a very few of these types of players? We could approach matches as a "hunt." There to hunt the other team, not just play around with them. Literally subject them to 90 minutes of Hell, put the fear of God in them. There are times when the Bin Dippers Citeh look like this, while the other team is just trying to fend them off for 90. Leicester during "that year?" A terror to face and a pack on the hunt. If Stoke could build back a "fear factor" again? THAT's the Stoke I fell in love with. When you're not as "talented" the only other option is better strategy and conditioning. We don't have this team now but this is the team I would build...Average age would plummet. People would bitch that we don't have "experience' - well we've tried that. We need FIRE, quit being doormats! This starts in the mind... progresses into training. "Gentlemen! We are HERE today to HUNT the other team! I don't care how "good" people say they are! Don't care how many "scary" players they have! We've trained well and you can damn well outrun them! I feel sorry for them! When we're done - they'll be sucking on oxygen in the dugout!" "I demand 90 minutes of pure Stoke Fury!" "We don't just want them beat today, we want them to lose their NEXT game because they had to play us!" "People PAY to see you play! Time to bring the heat!" OK, obviously I'm nuts... and there are some holes in my "plan." Feel free to start shooting holes in it. But we have to learn to train, stay on the "front foot," how to use our players and how to make subs. While keeping that famous "hard to score against" defense. Agree with all you say there, interesting post. And you're right, it is "more complex than even all of this". There is nutrition to consider too. I read somewhere, that players whose diet consists of a lot of red meat, but little variety, can develop muscles that are too strong for their joints to cope with, because red meat is made of muscle, so they get all the nutrients needed to make healthy muscle, but not enough of the essential nutrients for healthy joints. So a more varied diet is more likely to help the joints and connective tissues keep up with the muscles. I guess this is one of the reasons some clubs employ nutritionists these days. And I agree, you obviously are nuts. But then so am I. So I can't think of any holes to shoot in your plan. I like it, the 70s team was a bit like that too.
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Post by Gods on Jun 26, 2021 1:34:34 GMT
There's no need to jump to worse case scenario conclusions, just let it play out. Although, hearing "the nature of his injury" constantly without any details of said injury is rather annoying. I agree, but substitute 'rather' for 'massively'
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 26, 2021 9:14:20 GMT
If MoN has any sense - and I think he does - he has to plan for a season without Campbell and if he comes back and hits form treat it as a bonus. It would also help if the fans stop seeing him as a key part of the squad and just let him recover at his own pace - the pressure of him being seen as a key player just isn't going to help anyone.
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Post by OldStokie on Jun 26, 2021 10:39:27 GMT
Yes there are several examples of pro athletes who have developed specific muscle groups so well that they can actually overpower the joints. Bo Jackson had a set of legs so strong that just making a cut caused him to over power and shatter his hip joint. You would have never seen something like this years ago. They've documented that weight lifting technology now does a MUCH better job of targeting a specific muscle or muscle group - often NOT to the benefit of the overall body. And Tyrese - he's an "explosive" player who expends an inordinate amount of energy in quick bursts. The opposite of say, of a marathon runner used to using the muscles for longer periods of time - but distance runners aren't as fast in quick bursts. I view him more as a cheetah not as a lion - a whole different cat...literally. Football teams are full of marathon runners out of necessity - they should be, look at the distances they have to cover in a match! So a cheetah tends to stand out, for brief periods. And Cheetahs are good at conserving their energy until the right moment - I've actually watch him do this over the course of a game. Sometimes it translates into a player that doesn't "track back" like fans think he should. (Along with false accusations of "lazy" or "not match fit") But if Tyrese ran around like Joe Allen? We wouldn't be talking about missing him right now. The kid's an athlete, one who if he set his mind to it could play several other sports on a very high level. You can't "teach" speed. Sprinters are born, distance runners are made. (Via extensive hard work, dedication and masochism) I say use him like a Cheetah, when a herd of wildebeests gets winded after escaping the lions - time to bring in Tyrese. Sorry for rambling, but this is more complex than even all of this. Just a very few of these types of players? We could approach matches as a "hunt." There to hunt the other team, not just play around with them. Literally subject them to 90 minutes of Hell, put the fear of God in them. There are times when the Bin Dippers Citeh look like this, while the other team is just trying to fend them off for 90. Leicester during "that year?" A terror to face and a pack on the hunt. If Stoke could build back a "fear factor" again? THAT's the Stoke I fell in love with. When you're not as "talented" the only other option is better strategy and conditioning. We don't have this team now but this is the team I would build...Average age would plummet. People would bitch that we don't have "experience' - well we've tried that. We need FIRE, quit being doormats! This starts in the mind... progresses into training. "Gentlemen! We are HERE today to HUNT the other team! I don't care how "good" people say they are! Don't care how many "scary" players they have! We've trained well and you can damn well outrun them! I feel sorry for them! When we're done - they'll be sucking on oxygen in the dugout!" "I demand 90 minutes of pure Stoke Fury!" "We don't just want them beat today, we want them to lose their NEXT game because they had to play us!" "People PAY to see you play! Time to bring the heat!" OK, obviously I'm nuts... and there are some holes in my "plan." Feel free to start shooting holes in it. But we have to learn to train, stay on the "front foot," how to use our players and how to make subs. While keeping that famous "hard to score against" defense. Tyrese's injury must be a very complex one and MON is right to allow the medics to sort him their way and not try to bring him back before they're absolutely sure he's ready. Regarding muscle building, that's a complex matter too. Those muscles have to be the right ones to be honed. When Tyrese first broke into the first team he was struggling to last 60 minutes, but just before his injury he'd turned into a 90 minute player. That was no coincidence. He'd become 'match fit'. I really would be surprised to see Tyrese anywhere near back to his best before the end of the year. And what does 'fitness' mean? I have a 17yo grandson who has always kept himself fit. He's fanatical about it. Before Covid he was national level in the Long-jump. Then Covid came and he's been unable to compete or train for that discipline. He's also a good rugby player - plays for Newcastle Colts - so he directed his efforts towards that sport. Now athletics is back up and running he entered his first competition in the Staffordshire Championships at Northwood, which he'd won easily during the last 4 years. He finished 2nd in the Under-20's against a guy he'd previously have blown away doing only a 12 stride run-up. Although he's still as 'fit' as a fiddle because he's kept himself fit to play his rugby, he looked like a carthorse in the Long-jump and jumped half a metre less than he could when he was 15. And nothing is so sure that it will take an entire season for him to start looking like the Long-jump prospect he once was. That's what Tyrese is going to go through so we all have to be patient with the lad. OS.
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Post by pottersrule on Jun 26, 2021 11:19:53 GMT
There's no need to jump to worse case scenario conclusions, just let it play out. Although, hearing "the nature of his injury" constantly without any details of said injury is rather annoying. I'm sure I've seen articular cartilage injury mentioned somewhere,which is apparently a very serious and hard to manage injury. The fact he was on crutches for a prolonged period after surgery gives weight to it being along those lines also.
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 26, 2021 16:30:27 GMT
Yes there are several examples of pro athletes who have developed specific muscle groups so well that they can actually overpower the joints. Bo Jackson had a set of legs so strong that just making a cut caused him to over power and shatter his hip joint. You would have never seen something like this years ago. They've documented that weight lifting technology now does a MUCH better job of targeting a specific muscle or muscle group - often NOT to the benefit of the overall body. And Tyrese - he's an "explosive" player who expends an inordinate amount of energy in quick bursts. The opposite of say, of a marathon runner used to using the muscles for longer periods of time - but distance runners aren't as fast in quick bursts. I view him more as a cheetah not as a lion - a whole different cat...literally. Football teams are full of marathon runners out of necessity - they should be, look at the distances they have to cover in a match! So a cheetah tends to stand out, for brief periods. And Cheetahs are good at conserving their energy until the right moment - I've actually watch him do this over the course of a game. Sometimes it translates into a player that doesn't "track back" like fans think he should. (Along with false accusations of "lazy" or "not match fit") But if Tyrese ran around like Joe Allen? We wouldn't be talking about missing him right now. The kid's an athlete, one who if he set his mind to it could play several other sports on a very high level. You can't "teach" speed. Sprinters are born, distance runners are made. (Via extensive hard work, dedication and masochism) I say use him like a Cheetah, when a herd of wildebeests gets winded after escaping the lions - time to bring in Tyrese. Sorry for rambling, but this is more complex than even all of this. Just a very few of these types of players? We could approach matches as a "hunt." There to hunt the other team, not just play around with them. Literally subject them to 90 minutes of Hell, put the fear of God in them. There are times when the Bin Dippers Citeh look like this, while the other team is just trying to fend them off for 90. Leicester during "that year?" A terror to face and a pack on the hunt. If Stoke could build back a "fear factor" again? THAT's the Stoke I fell in love with. When you're not as "talented" the only other option is better strategy and conditioning. We don't have this team now but this is the team I would build...Average age would plummet. People would bitch that we don't have "experience' - well we've tried that. We need FIRE, quit being doormats! This starts in the mind... progresses into training. "Gentlemen! We are HERE today to HUNT the other team! I don't care how "good" people say they are! Don't care how many "scary" players they have! We've trained well and you can damn well outrun them! I feel sorry for them! When we're done - they'll be sucking on oxygen in the dugout!" "I demand 90 minutes of pure Stoke Fury!" "We don't just want them beat today, we want them to lose their NEXT game because they had to play us!" "People PAY to see you play! Time to bring the heat!" OK, obviously I'm nuts... and there are some holes in my "plan." Feel free to start shooting holes in it. But we have to learn to train, stay on the "front foot," how to use our players and how to make subs. While keeping that famous "hard to score against" defense. Agree with all you say there, interesting post. And you're right, it is "more complex than even all of this". There is nutrition to consider too. I read somewhere, that players whose diet consists of a lot of red meat, but little variety, can develop muscles that are too strong for their joints to cope with, because red meat is made of muscle, so they get all the nutrients needed to make healthy muscle, but not enough of the essential nutrients for healthy joints. So a more varied diet is more likely to help the joints and connective tissues keep up with the muscles. I guess this is one of the reasons some clubs employ nutritionists these days. And I agree, you obviously are nuts. But then so am I. So I can't think of any holes to shoot in your plan. I like it, the 70s team was a bit like that too. Yes, I agree that nutrition is critical, more and more professional athletes are being very fastidious about what they eat and when and what they don't eat. They realize that it's just another tool they can have in their ... kit. (I was going to say arsenal, but that's an obscene word on this forum) And as far as the playing strategy, my dad was a basketball coach known for taking no-name teams and running/pressing the opposition until they either responded with fouls or exhaustion or both. I watched him take small-town teams and do this to the "big boys" on a regular basis. So I stole the idea from him, rest his soul.
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 26, 2021 16:35:54 GMT
Yes there are several examples of pro athletes who have developed specific muscle groups so well that they can actually overpower the joints. Bo Jackson had a set of legs so strong that just making a cut caused him to over power and shatter his hip joint. You would have never seen something like this years ago. They've documented that weight lifting technology now does a MUCH better job of targeting a specific muscle or muscle group - often NOT to the benefit of the overall body. And Tyrese - he's an "explosive" player who expends an inordinate amount of energy in quick bursts. The opposite of say, of a marathon runner used to using the muscles for longer periods of time - but distance runners aren't as fast in quick bursts. I view him more as a cheetah not as a lion - a whole different cat...literally. Football teams are full of marathon runners out of necessity - they should be, look at the distances they have to cover in a match! So a cheetah tends to stand out, for brief periods. And Cheetahs are good at conserving their energy until the right moment - I've actually watch him do this over the course of a game. Sometimes it translates into a player that doesn't "track back" like fans think he should. (Along with false accusations of "lazy" or "not match fit") But if Tyrese ran around like Joe Allen? We wouldn't be talking about missing him right now. The kid's an athlete, one who if he set his mind to it could play several other sports on a very high level. You can't "teach" speed. Sprinters are born, distance runners are made. (Via extensive hard work, dedication and masochism) I say use him like a Cheetah, when a herd of wildebeests gets winded after escaping the lions - time to bring in Tyrese. Sorry for rambling, but this is more complex than even all of this. Just a very few of these types of players? We could approach matches as a "hunt." There to hunt the other team, not just play around with them. Literally subject them to 90 minutes of Hell, put the fear of God in them. There are times when the Bin Dippers Citeh look like this, while the other team is just trying to fend them off for 90. Leicester during "that year?" A terror to face and a pack on the hunt. If Stoke could build back a "fear factor" again? THAT's the Stoke I fell in love with. When you're not as "talented" the only other option is better strategy and conditioning. We don't have this team now but this is the team I would build...Average age would plummet. People would bitch that we don't have "experience' - well we've tried that. We need FIRE, quit being doormats! This starts in the mind... progresses into training. "Gentlemen! We are HERE today to HUNT the other team! I don't care how "good" people say they are! Don't care how many "scary" players they have! We've trained well and you can damn well outrun them! I feel sorry for them! When we're done - they'll be sucking on oxygen in the dugout!" "I demand 90 minutes of pure Stoke Fury!" "We don't just want them beat today, we want them to lose their NEXT game because they had to play us!" "People PAY to see you play! Time to bring the heat!" OK, obviously I'm nuts... and there are some holes in my "plan." Feel free to start shooting holes in it. But we have to learn to train, stay on the "front foot," how to use our players and how to make subs. While keeping that famous "hard to score against" defense. Tyrese's injury must be a very complex one and MON is right to allow the medics to sort him their way and not try to bring him back before they're absolutely sure he's ready. Regarding muscle building, that's a complex matter too. Those muscles have to be the right ones to be honed. When Tyrese first broke into the first team he was struggling to last 60 minutes, but just before his injury he'd turned into a 90 minute player. That was no coincidence. He'd become 'match fit'. I really would be surprised to see Tyrese anywhere near back to his best before the end of the year. And what does 'fitness' mean? I have a 17yo grandson who has always kept himself fit. He's fanatical about it. Before Covid he was national level in the Long-jump. Then Covid came and he's been unable to compete or train for that discipline. He's also a good rugby player - plays for Newcastle Colts - so he directed his efforts towards that sport. Now athletics is back up and running he entered his first competition in the Staffordshire Championships at Northwood, which he'd won easily during the last 4 years. He finished 2nd in the Under-20's against a guy he'd previously have blown away doing only a 12 stride run-up. Although he's still as 'fit' as a fiddle because he's kept himself fit to play his rugby, he looked like a carthorse in the Long-jump and jumped half a metre less than he could when he was 15. And nothing is so sure that it will take an entire season for him to start looking like the Long-jump prospect he once was. That's what Tyrese is going to go through so we all have to be patient with the lad. OS. Totally agree and I do hope they/we are patient with him. And congrats on the grandson. May he have great success in both sports! That sounds like a good mix. Is it just me or are Rugby players becoming faster/quicker? There seems to be more and more of them that once they get that first step on you - gone.
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Post by OldStokie on Jun 27, 2021 11:22:08 GMT
Tyrese's injury must be a very complex one and MON is right to allow the medics to sort him their way and not try to bring him back before they're absolutely sure he's ready. Regarding muscle building, that's a complex matter too. Those muscles have to be the right ones to be honed. When Tyrese first broke into the first team he was struggling to last 60 minutes, but just before his injury he'd turned into a 90 minute player. That was no coincidence. He'd become 'match fit'. I really would be surprised to see Tyrese anywhere near back to his best before the end of the year. And what does 'fitness' mean? I have a 17yo grandson who has always kept himself fit. He's fanatical about it. Before Covid he was national level in the Long-jump. Then Covid came and he's been unable to compete or train for that discipline. He's also a good rugby player - plays for Newcastle Colts - so he directed his efforts towards that sport. Now athletics is back up and running he entered his first competition in the Staffordshire Championships at Northwood, which he'd won easily during the last 4 years. He finished 2nd in the Under-20's against a guy he'd previously have blown away doing only a 12 stride run-up. Although he's still as 'fit' as a fiddle because he's kept himself fit to play his rugby, he looked like a carthorse in the Long-jump and jumped half a metre less than he could when he was 15. And nothing is so sure that it will take an entire season for him to start looking like the Long-jump prospect he once was. That's what Tyrese is going to go through so we all have to be patient with the lad. OS. Totally agree and I do hope they/we are patient with him. And congrats on the grandson. May he have great success in both sports! That sounds like a good mix. Is it just me or are Rugby players becoming faster/quicker? There seems to be more and more of them that once they get that first step on you - gone. Thanks. You're right... rugby players are becoming faster. At 16 my grandson could do 100 metres in 11 seconds and because of it he was right for the position of inside centre. During his formative years in the game he could score tries easily because of his natural speed, but as he's grown older he's filled out in other areas and added bulk. But that extra weight has also taken away some of the ability to gain an extra yard start on the opposition. However, that bulk has helped him compete better in the rough and tumble of the game. Swings and roundabouts I suppose. As far as his long-jumping is concerned, speed on the runway is massively important once you've mastered the techniques of actually jumping. Playing rugby and bulking up has taken away some of his speed so now he's having to add sprint training to his jumping technique development to try and get back to where he was. I could go on and on about the complexities of the long-jump discipline. That run up is so important. I've seen him do 4 consecutive no-jumps in a competition and not get placed when he's not got his run up right on the day. I know I'm rambling on but in the greater scheme of things, because of what my grandson does, I can appreciate better the difficulties that footballers face after coming back from a serious injury or if they haven't got game time under their belt when they're selected. I can also understand why MON likes to send his younger players out on loan for their development. Only a very few exceptional youngsters can make the massive step into the 'man's world' seem easy. As good as Tyrese is, his loan spells before the manager decided to bed him in were not that successful insomuch that he didn't set the world on fire as a younger player. I just hope this unfortunate injury will not affect him massively in his development. OS.
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Post by a on Jun 27, 2021 11:24:17 GMT
We have to get a goalscorer in If Tyres is way off then we may have to get another on loan too Going to be tough We need a goal scorer regardless of Campbell. Last season proved how you can’t rely on one decent striker. It’s a shame Fletcher is pretty much past it now but he complimented Campbell well tbf.
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Post by thehoof on Jun 27, 2021 11:33:03 GMT
Well to me he’s clearly buggered. No medical knowledge, but there doesn’t seem to be any progress that would give you confidence that Tyrese will be back. Also we seem to have woken up to the need for another striker- not deemed necessary ( M O’ns own words) in January. I add all these signs together and reach 42- Tyrese will not be returning this next season.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 27, 2021 11:35:37 GMT
Well to me he’s clearly buggered. No medical knowledge, but there doesn’t seem to be any progress that would give you confidence that Tyrese will be back. Also we seem to have woken up to the need for another striker- not deemed necessary ( M O’ns own words) in January. I add all these signs together and reach 42- Tyrese will not be returning this next season. Aye, I've got no medical knowledge Ty but I'm here to tell you to not even bother coming back. Get yourself down the job centre pal.
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Post by thehoof on Jun 27, 2021 11:38:25 GMT
Well to me he’s clearly buggered. No medical knowledge, but there doesn’t seem to be any progress that would give you confidence that Tyrese will be back. Also we seem to have woken up to the need for another striker- not deemed necessary ( M O’ns own words) in January. I add all these signs together and reach 42- Tyrese will not be returning this next season. Aye, I've got no medical knowledge Ty but I'm here to tell you to not even bother coming back. Get yourself down the job centre pal. So you agree. Obvious isn’t it.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 27, 2021 11:39:16 GMT
Aye, I've got no medical knowledge Ty but I'm here to tell you to not even bother coming back. Get yourself down the job centre pal. So you agree. Obvious isn’t it. No, I don't agree..
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Post by thehoof on Jun 27, 2021 11:41:02 GMT
So you agree. Obvious isn’t it. No, I don't agree.. But you’ve told him to get down the Job Centre- is it because it means that your mate TS hasn’t got the pennies to get us a replacement 😂
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Post by bgreen13 on Jun 27, 2021 12:46:25 GMT
Well to me he’s clearly buggered. No medical knowledge, but there doesn’t seem to be any progress that would give you confidence that Tyrese will be back. Also we seem to have woken up to the need for another striker- not deemed necessary ( M O’ns own words) in January. I add all these signs together and reach 42- Tyrese will not be returning this next season. Apart from the obvious progress in all the new training wear videos?
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Post by thehoof on Jun 27, 2021 14:42:56 GMT
Well to me he’s clearly buggered. No medical knowledge, but there doesn’t seem to be any progress that would give you confidence that Tyrese will be back. Also we seem to have woken up to the need for another striker- not deemed necessary ( M O’ns own words) in January. I add all these signs together and reach 42- Tyrese will not be returning this next season. Apart from the obvious progress in all the new training wear videos? So , when is he back, given the “obvious” progress?
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Post by bgreen13 on Jun 27, 2021 16:20:05 GMT
Apart from the obvious progress in all the new training wear videos? So , when is he back, given the “obvious” progress? 😂 Well he was on crutches and couldn't walk unaided. Now he's not on crutches and doing work on it. I'd call that progress. Not rocket science love.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 27, 2021 16:27:32 GMT
There’s no way Campbell should go straight back in the side ahead of Vokes and Brown.
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Post by thehoof on Jun 27, 2021 16:31:48 GMT
So , when is he back, given the “obvious” progress? 😂 Well he was on crutches and couldn't walk unaided. Now he's not on crutches and doing work on it. I'd call that progress. Not rocket science love. It’s not being fit to pay professional football either, love.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 28, 2021 17:01:12 GMT
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