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Post by mowlee on Apr 5, 2021 17:52:26 GMT
Did we finish lower than Barnsley last season
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 5, 2021 17:53:30 GMT
They’re obviously under a different kind of transition than ourselves.
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Post by Jimm on Apr 5, 2021 17:56:46 GMT
21st and stayed up by a point. Difference is, they actually have a solid team with pace and creativity
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 5, 2021 17:57:39 GMT
They’re obviously under a different kind of transition than ourselves. They absolutely are....... |
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Post by mowlee on Apr 5, 2021 17:58:23 GMT
Bet brown wish he would of stayed
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 18:13:24 GMT
Anybody comparing us to Barnsley is either thick as fuck, on a wind up, or peddling the biggest agenda since this site began.
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Post by mowlee on Apr 5, 2021 18:14:10 GMT
Anybody comparing us to Barnsley is either thick as fuck, on a wind up, or peddling the biggest agenda since this site began. how?? |
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Post by mowlee on Apr 5, 2021 18:15:05 GMT
Anybody comparing us to Barnsley is either thick as fuck, on a wind up, or peddling the biggest agenda since this site began. how?? we pay the biggest wages.. mon is on 3 times as much as the Barnsley’s manager so what’s the piss take |
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 5, 2021 18:15:47 GMT
Did we finish lower than Barnsley last season I don't remember. Wonder if there's any way of looking it up? |
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Post by butlerstbob on Apr 5, 2021 18:18:56 GMT
They only stayed up due to Wigan going into administration.... Otherwise they would have been relegated!
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Apr 5, 2021 18:21:30 GMT
Barnsley finished 4th bottom & thats after selling there so called best players. Its amazing how a manager can transform a side so quickly from near relegation to play off contenders.
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Post by thehoof on Apr 5, 2021 18:28:17 GMT
Anybody comparing us to Barnsley is either thick as fuck, on a wind up, or peddling the biggest agenda since this site began. In what way Vincent- you think that they had a better squad than us at the start of the season? Do you think that they have played with less pace than us, scored less goals, been less impressive? In what way is that peddling an agenda? |
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 5, 2021 18:39:24 GMT
Anybody comparing us to Barnsley is either thick as fuck, on a wind up, or peddling the biggest agenda since this site began. Are you trying to insinuate that we shouldn't be aiming to be better than the mighty Barnsley that avoided relegation last season by a point and have 20% of our wage bill? |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Apr 5, 2021 18:41:06 GMT
Anybody comparing us to Barnsley is either thick as fuck, on a wind up, or peddling the biggest agenda since this site began. Whys that explain. |
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Post by wherty on Apr 5, 2021 18:59:10 GMT
we pay the biggest wages.. mon is on 3 times as much as the Barnsley’s manager so what’s the piss take How do you know this? Are you the accountant or chief exec of both teams? |
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Post by mowlee on Apr 5, 2021 19:01:45 GMT
we pay the biggest wages.. mon is on 3 times as much as the Barnsley’s manager so what’s the piss take How do you know this? Are you the accountant or chief exec of both teams? Barnsley manager reported on 10 grand a week an O’Neil on 30k a week.. the internet is a wonderful thing |
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Post by Picasso on Apr 5, 2021 19:02:24 GMT
We finished 12 points behind Derby last season, but are now 12 points ahead of them. Brilliant, Stoke!
Seriously though, you can’t just compare one team, surely? Of course, Barnsley are a good example to look at this season, for a massive turn around from last season, but their’s is an unusual example and sometimes things just click in to place for teams.
Small misfortune, luck or little tweaks can change a club’s season quite dramatically. Maybe, if we still had Campbell, we’d be showing similar ‘turn around’ signs to Barnsley.
That’s not to say we should be happy right now, but overall, I think MON is generally going about things the right way (not least, building a side that isn’t a stranger to clean sheets) - A bit of that luck I mentioned wouldn’t go amiss, though.
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Post by thehoof on Apr 5, 2021 19:11:10 GMT
We finished 12 points behind Derby last season, but are now 12 points ahead of them. Brilliant, Stoke! Seriously though, you can’t just compare one team, surely? Of course, Barnsley are a good example to look at this season, for a massive turn around from last season, but their’s is an unusual example and sometimes things just click in to place for teams. Small misfortune, luck or little tweaks can change a club’s season quite dramatically. Maybe, if we still had Campbell, we’d be showing similar ‘turn around’ signs to Barnsley. That’s not to say we should be happy right now, but overall, I think MON is generally going about things the right way (not least, building a side that isn’t a stranger to clean sheets) - A bit of that luck I mentioned wouldn’t go amiss, though. The issue though is that many posters try to say how well O’Neill did in keeping us up ( which to be fair is true), but there is no progression this year. If you look at points per game , win percentage, O’Neil is behind his own previously set curve. The defense has improved but totally at the expense of our ability to score as we did last year. O’Neil is a safe pair of mid table mediocrity hands- given our FFP status and the crap coming back off loan, that’s probably as good as we can hope for- but there is little chance that as a manager he will take us into the top 6; he’s not got anything like the forward thinking or bravery to do something outside of his comfort zone. |
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Post by mowlee on Apr 5, 2021 19:11:20 GMT
We finished 12 points behind Derby last season, but are now 12 points ahead of them. Brilliant, Stoke! Seriously though, you can’t just compare one team, surely? Of course, Barnsley are a good example to look at this season, for a massive turn around from last season, but their’s is an unusual example and sometimes things just click in to place for teams. Small misfortune, luck or little tweaks can change a club’s season quite dramatically. Maybe, if we still had Campbell, we’d be showing similar ‘turn around’ signs to Barnsley. That’s not to say we should be happy right now, but overall, I think MON is generally going about things the right way (not least, building a side that isn’t a stranger to clean sheets) - A bit of that luck I mentioned wouldn’t go amiss, though. yeah am with ya bro.. I think O’Neill deserves another season.. you just don’t get time in football anymore.. MON’s a lucky man.. don’t think he will be when us lot are let back in though |
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 5, 2021 19:13:11 GMT
How do you know this? Are you the accountant or chief exec of both teams? Barnsley manager reported on 10 grand a week an O’Neil on 30k a week.. the internet is a wonderful thing Don’t believe everything you read youth. No club publicly reveals how much money they pay their employees. Barnsley have done great, but they’ve finished above loads of clubs they were behind last year not just us. |
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 5, 2021 19:13:58 GMT
We finished 12 points behind Derby last season, but are now 12 points ahead of them. Brilliant, Stoke! Seriously though, you can’t just compare one team, surely? Of course, Barnsley are a good example to look at this season, for a massive turn around from last season, but their’s is an unusual example and sometimes things just click in to place for teams. Small misfortune, luck or little tweaks can change a club’s season quite dramatically. Maybe, if we still had Campbell, we’d be showing similar ‘turn around’ signs to Barnsley. That’s not to say we should be happy right now, but overall, I think MON is generally going about things the right way (not least, building a side that isn’t a stranger to clean sheets) - A bit of that luck I mentioned wouldn’t go amiss, though. yeah am with ya bro.. I think O’Neill deserves another season.. you just don’t get time in football anymore.. MON’s a lucky man.. don’t think he will be when us lot are let back in though Why, what are you going to do to him? 😂 |
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 5, 2021 19:14:32 GMT
They finished well below us thanks to MoN.
Has to be said also they are, I imagine, able to build without the constraints of FFP, unlike the situation we find ourselves in thanks to the likes of fuckwits like Rowett.
Although it also has to be said MoN appears to have some worrying blindspots both selection and tactics wise.
As far as I'm concerned he has something to prove over the next transfer window and at the start of next season, however I dont think the 2 amigos ( Coates and Scholes ) are thinking like this.
Personally I'd rather he mixed a good dose of fortune favours the brave thinking in with his patience is a virtue approach.
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Post by mowlee on Apr 5, 2021 19:16:59 GMT
yeah am with ya bro.. I think O’Neill deserves another season.. you just don’t get time in football anymore.. MON’s a lucky man.. don’t think he will be when us lot are let back in though Why, what are you going to do to him? 😂 what am I going too do with who hahahahha!! U don’t know me at all.. meet me for a pint.. see what happens.. am meaning what’s gonna happens with the crowd in an today’s performance.. are they gonna get clapped off or boo’ed off.. it not gonna last long is it.. we’re not improving are we |
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 5, 2021 19:18:56 GMT
Why, what are you going to do to him? 😂 what am I going too do with who hahahahha!! U don’t know me at all.. meet me for a pint.. see what happens.. am meaning what’s gonna happens with the crowd in an today’s performance.. are they gonna get clapped off or boo’ed off.. it not gonna last long is it.. we’re not improving are we You’ve said he’s a lucky man that your not allowed in the ground. What are you going to do when we are allowed back into the ground? Why is he a lucky man? |
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Post by mowlee on Apr 5, 2021 19:20:38 GMT
what am I going too do with who hahahahha!! U don’t know me at all.. meet me for a pint.. see what happens.. am meaning what’s gonna happens with the crowd in an today’s performance.. are they gonna get clapped off or boo’ed off.. it not gonna last long is it.. we’re not improving are we You’ve said he’s a lucky man that your not allowed in the ground. What are you going to do when we are allowed back into the ground? Why is he a lucky man? what’s up with u.. are u going too he happy watching that shit show we seen today are ya |
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Post by marcofstoke on Apr 5, 2021 19:23:52 GMT
How do you know this? Are you the accountant or chief exec of both teams? Barnsley manager reported on 10 grand a week an O’Neil on 30k a week.. the internet is a wonderful thing Says someone who asks a question that could have been looked up on the internet in 10 seconds! |
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Post by Picasso on Apr 5, 2021 19:24:07 GMT
We finished 12 points behind Derby last season, but are now 12 points ahead of them. Brilliant, Stoke! Seriously though, you can’t just compare one team, surely? Of course, Barnsley are a good example to look at this season, for a massive turn around from last season, but their’s is an unusual example and sometimes things just click in to place for teams. Small misfortune, luck or little tweaks can change a club’s season quite dramatically. Maybe, if we still had Campbell, we’d be showing similar ‘turn around’ signs to Barnsley. That’s not to say we should be happy right now, but overall, I think MON is generally going about things the right way (not least, building a side that isn’t a stranger to clean sheets) - A bit of that luck I mentioned wouldn’t go amiss, though. The issue though is that many posters try to say how well O’Neill did in keeping us up ( which to be fair is true), but there is no progression this year. If you look at points per game , win percentage, O’Neil is behind his own previously set curve. The defense has improved but totally at the expense of our ability to score as we did last year. O’Neil is a safe pair of mid table mediocrity hands- given our FFP status and the crap coming back off loan, that’s probably as good as we can hope for- but there is little chance that as a manager he will take us into the top 6; he’s not got anything like the forward thinking or bravery to do something outside of his comfort zone. I agree with this, mostly, but I think that the defensive approach was stepped up a lot when Campbell got injured. Before that, we were scoring frequently. I don’t know, but I imagine MON’s points per game was around Play-Off levels before Campbell was out. It’s a team game, but that injury really messed our season up. MON leans towards caution and I think that when a manager is that way inclined, losing a flair or key player can have a huge impact. Add to this, the debacle that is FFP and then we’re struggling. |
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 5, 2021 19:25:01 GMT
You’ve said he’s a lucky man that your not allowed in the ground. What are you going to do when we are allowed back into the ground? Why is he a lucky man? what’s up with u.. are u going too he happy watching that shit show we seen today are ya Are you planning on shooting him? Or storming onto the pitch and batterering him? |
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Post by Billy the kid on Apr 5, 2021 19:28:51 GMT
Barnsley have new rich owners, and no 90 Million losses on account.
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Post by mowlee on Apr 5, 2021 19:29:59 GMT
what’s up with u.. are u going too he happy watching that shit show we seen today are ya Are you planning on shooting him? Or storming onto the pitch and batterering him? hahahaha u need too get back on the crackpipe.. am saying today he would probably got boo’d off for that second half performance.. an that’s after 15 months by the way.. he’s not gonna last long with performances like that is he |
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