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Post by gingerninja on Mar 15, 2021 17:41:01 GMT
Yes he's still raw, but surely he must get a chance at right back ahead of Tommy Smith before the season's out?. Did another poster say somewhere that MON is a massive fan of his?.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 15, 2021 17:47:17 GMT
Have you seen him play? I haven't and would be interested in hearing an informed justification for playing him other than "he must be better than Smith".
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 15, 2021 17:49:06 GMT
He looks better to me further upfield than at right back.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 15, 2021 17:53:14 GMT
One thing for sure is youngsters will get their chance with O’Neill if he thinks they’re good enough
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 15, 2021 17:54:21 GMT
I can see him getting a couple of games at wing back if we play a back three before the seasons out definitely......
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 18:03:33 GMT
He is good. Quick on the ball, quick in thought, has an eye for goalscoring, and is deadly in the tackle. But it's his first year in the u-23s and when the season started he was second choice to Moritz Bauer. So things have happened rather fast, and it might be better for him to wait until there's nothing at stake, which there potentially still is. The best would probably be to give him a run of games in pre season and then decide whether we should continue with him. On the other hand MON is probably going through the list of league fullbacks at the moment, and if he decides to sign one in the summer, Coates' path into the first team could be blocked for several years.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2021 18:24:51 GMT
He is good. Quick on the ball, quick in thought, has an eye for goalscoring, and is deadly in the tackle. But it's his first year in the u-23s and when the season started he was second choice to Moritz Bauer. So things have happened rather fast, and it might be better for him to wait until there's nothing at stake, which there potentially still is. The best would probably be to give him a run of games in pre season and then decide whether we should continue with him. On the other hand MON is probably going through the list of league fullbacks at the moment, and if he decides to sign one in the summer, Coates' path into the first team could be blocked for several years. He played for the 23s last season and wasn’t second choice to Bauer at all. |
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Post by milky on Mar 15, 2021 18:43:01 GMT
I dont know anything about the lad or how close he is to the first team squad but I tell you one thing ,I'm pig sick of seeing Tommy Smith dozing off at the back post time and time again.
For a player of his experience its criminal.
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Post by march4 on Mar 15, 2021 18:47:55 GMT
He is great getting forwards.
I’m not sure about him defending at the moment.
For those who haven’t seen him, he is an exciting player.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 15, 2021 19:21:31 GMT
He is great getting forwards. I’m not sure about him defending at the moment. For those who haven’t seen him, he is an exciting player. I haven't seen a lot of him but that tackle against Norwich the other week (for which he got a ridiculous yellow card) was one of the best tackles I have seen in a long time. I think he only got the yellow because he was so quick - but he timed it perfectly, kept his trailing leg out of the way, put the ball into touch and did the Norwich player no harm at all. You couldn't really hope for a better tackle. |
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Post by hardcastle on Mar 15, 2021 19:35:35 GMT
If the tackle is correctly executed and is not reckless, is 'harm' a factor in whether the ref can show a card? ( No agenda)
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 15, 2021 20:01:46 GMT
If the tackle is correctly executed and is not reckless, is 'harm' a factor in whether the ref can show a card? ( No agenda) As far as I know, if the tackle is not reckless then harm is irrelevant. It wasn't reckless in my opinion - but Coates did cover the ground very quickly and the ref looked as though he thought that Coates' speed meant the tackle could be regarded as reckless. |
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Post by lancashirelad on Mar 15, 2021 20:12:48 GMT
Initially worth a couple of appearances from the bench the last half hour and if he looks up to speed one or two games from the start even as a right back in a back four.
Plusses is pace, likes to get stuck in, his positional play seems to improving and gets a cross or pass into dangerous areas in the oppositions box.
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 15, 2021 20:17:13 GMT
What about Coates at right back and Smith at right midfield? Smith probably has the best crosses in him among our lot as far as I've seen so surely our best option at the moment?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 11:17:51 GMT
He is good. Quick on the ball, quick in thought, has an eye for goalscoring, and is deadly in the tackle. But it's his first year in the u-23s and when the season started he was second choice to Moritz Bauer. So things have happened rather fast, and it might be better for him to wait until there's nothing at stake, which there potentially still is. The best would probably be to give him a run of games in pre season and then decide whether we should continue with him. On the other hand MON is probably going through the list of league fullbacks at the moment, and if he decides to sign one in the summer, Coates' path into the first team could be blocked for several years. He played for the 23s last season and wasn’t second choice to Bauer at all. Bauer wasn't playing for us last season as he was out on loan somewhere. Kieran did play last season while he was 17 and belonged to the u-18s, but because the older group had no regular rb option, Kieran played some games - and did well. Macari played there as well some games and others did too. |
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 16, 2021 12:00:23 GMT
What about Coates at right back and Smith at right midfield? Smith probably has the best crosses in him among our lot as far as I've seen so surely our best option at the moment? Smith at right mid? Crikey🙄...how about we just drop Smith cos he's shit...can't see him playing a bona-fide right back on the wing when he signed two wingers in Jan...berserk suggestion |
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 16, 2021 12:02:46 GMT
What about Coates at right back and Smith at right midfield? Smith probably has the best crosses in him among our lot as far as I've seen so surely our best option at the moment? Smith at right mid? Crikey🙄...how about we just drop Smith cos he's shit...can't see him playing a bona-fide right back on the wing when he signed two wingers in Jan...berserk suggestion If the alternative is Brown I'd prefer Smith every time!  |
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 16, 2021 12:05:02 GMT
Smith at right mid? Crikey🙄...how about we just drop Smith cos he's shit...can't see him playing a bona-fide right back on the wing when he signed two wingers in Jan...berserk suggestion If the alternative is Brown I'd prefer Smith every time! Not Clarke or rabbi? |
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 16, 2021 12:08:43 GMT
If the alternative is Brown I'd prefer Smith every time! Not Clarke or rabbi? Don't we need Clarke on the left? I think Smith could do really well at right midfield, and he has got a good cross in him as well. Coates is inexperienced so I think Smith would be the best choice if Coates is going to start. I doubt he will though! |
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Post by pez75 on Mar 16, 2021 16:52:15 GMT
Does Coates defend corners by attempting to head the ball before the attacker? If so, then he is already better than Tommy Smith...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 16:56:37 GMT
Every time Smith has been deployed further upfield as rwb and even as a wide midfielder (I think only once, probably for a reason), he has looked absolutely clueless. You can't teach an old dog like Smith new tricks, especially when he has no old tricks in the bag. Let him run down his contract here and then be gone.
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 16, 2021 19:54:23 GMT
Don't we need Clarke on the left? I think Smith could do really well at right midfield, and he has got a good cross in him as well. Coates is inexperienced so I think Smith would be the best choice if Coates is going to start. I doubt he will though! Ahhhhh come on rob |
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 16, 2021 19:59:05 GMT
We’ll get sucker punched second half and lose 1-0.
When that happens, please remember it’s got fuck all to do with anything but rank bad finishing. It’s no exaggeration to say we should be 2 or even 3 up courtesy of finishing from usually trustworthy players who have let us down in front of goal.
It’s so frustrating.
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Post by kingdaz on Mar 16, 2021 19:59:16 GMT
Is he a ' coats' or a ' co at es'?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 16, 2021 20:35:33 GMT
Is he a ' coats' or a ' co at es'? I’m pretty sure he’s from Stoke so I would imagine it’s Coats. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 16, 2021 21:16:25 GMT
Don't we need Clarke on the left? I think Smith could do really well at right midfield, and he has got a good cross in him as well. Coates is inexperienced so I think Smith would be the best choice if Coates is going to start. I doubt he will though! Ahhhhh come on rob  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 7, 2022 14:06:47 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 7, 2022 14:15:01 GMT
Good luck to him
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 7, 2022 14:17:19 GMT
anyone know if he played against Hanley? If so, anyone on here see him? |
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Post by a on Oct 7, 2022 14:43:55 GMT
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