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Post by gawa on Mar 3, 2021 23:40:50 GMT
To teams below the top 28 (below 8th in championship) in the English football pyramid.
Not trying to excuse the current form. Just highlighting that singling out certain statistics doesn't always show the full picture. Like this stat I've picked here for example.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 3, 2021 23:42:10 GMT
To teams below the top 28 (below 8th in championship) in the English football pyramid. Not trying to excuse the current form. Just highlighting that singling out certain statistics doesn't always show the full picture. Like this stat I've picked here for example. Shit bin. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 23:42:22 GMT
To teams below the top 28 (below 8th in championship) in the English football pyramid. Not trying to excuse the current form. Just highlighting that singling out certain statistics doesn't always show the full picture. Like this stat I've picked here for example. Huh? |
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Post by thevoid on Mar 3, 2021 23:43:29 GMT
To teams below the top 28 (below 8th in championship) in the English football pyramid. Not trying to excuse the current form. Just highlighting that singling out certain statistics doesn't always show the full picture. Like this stat I've picked here for example. Plus if you add up the minutes we've played well in the last three games and divide it by Lee Sandford's shoe size, you get 42. |
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Post by musik on Mar 3, 2021 23:45:12 GMT
What team have lost only 1 game of the last 36 games?
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Post by Milkie on Mar 3, 2021 23:45:17 GMT
It’s actually 3, both Cardiff and Barnsley were below 8th when they beat us
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Post by marwood on Mar 3, 2021 23:46:39 GMT
We only lost once tonight
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Post by gawa on Mar 3, 2021 23:47:11 GMT
To teams below the top 28 (below 8th in championship) in the English football pyramid. Not trying to excuse the current form. Just highlighting that singling out certain statistics doesn't always show the full picture. Like this stat I've picked here for example. Huh? I've edited as I forgot to include the games between the first and second lost. Since losing to Middlesbrough in December 2019, the only club which Stoke have lost to outside the top 28 in the English football pyramid is Bristol City on 20 September 2020 |
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Post by marwood on Mar 3, 2021 23:48:27 GMT
How many teaans as bs have actually Played
36 times since November without conceding a corner?
And there is one team who gets fined every tine they take tobtgevoit h because they faa was il
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Post by gawa on Mar 3, 2021 23:49:12 GMT
It’s actually 3, both Cardiff and Barnsley were below 8th when they beat us That is true if you were to look at it from that perspective. Which sort of highlights the point I'm making. |
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Post by franklin on Mar 3, 2021 23:50:02 GMT
My brain hurts with all the stats.
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Post by musik on Mar 3, 2021 23:51:22 GMT
I've edited as I forgot to include the games between the first and second lost. Since losing to Middlesbrough in December 2019, the only club which Stoke have lost to outside the top 28 in the English football pyramid is Bristol City on 20 September 2020 Now I get what you meant, but since we don't play in the Prem L, why count it? |
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Post by Milkie on Mar 3, 2021 23:52:17 GMT
Not sure what point you are making, been as we haven’t played 3 divisions worth of those teams, 1 up and 2 down,and football is about points and wins against those teams in your division?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 3, 2021 23:55:31 GMT
I've edited as I forgot to include the games between the first and second lost. Since losing to Middlesbrough in December 2019, the only club which Stoke have lost to outside the top 28 in the English football pyramid is Bristol City on 20 September 2020 If you're including the Prem surely you have to include the games we lost to those teams in the cups? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 23:58:51 GMT
A giraffe's coffee is cold by the time it reaches the bottom of its neck.
Think about that you selfish bastard.
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Post by gawa on Mar 3, 2021 23:58:56 GMT
I've edited as I forgot to include the games between the first and second lost. Since losing to Middlesbrough in December 2019, the only club which Stoke have lost to outside the top 28 in the English football pyramid is Bristol City on 20 September 2020 Now I get what you meant, but since we don't play in the Prem L, why count it? When people quote 3 wins in 20 they include losses to Spurs and Leicester. So why not include premiership teams in this as well. We actually have 3 wins and 2 losses to prem teams this season. |
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Post by wingy11 on Mar 4, 2021 0:00:34 GMT
Now I get what you meant, but since we don't play in the Prem L, why count it? When people quote 3 wins in 20 they include losses to Spurs and Leicester. So why not include premiership teams in this as well. We actually have 3 wins and 2 losses to prem teams this season. Ok then 3 wins in 18 |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 4, 2021 0:02:04 GMT
Now I get what you meant, but since we don't play in the Prem L, why count it? When people quote 3 wins in 20 they include losses to Spurs and Leicester. So why not include premiership teams in this as well. We actually have 3 wins and 2 losses to prem teams this season. So 3 wins in 18 then if you want. What's all the fuss about as a wise man once said. |
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Post by thevoid on Mar 4, 2021 0:05:12 GMT
I've edited as I forgot to include the games between the first and second lost. Since losing to Middlesbrough in December 2019, the only club which Stoke have lost to outside the top 28 in the English football pyramid is Bristol City on 20 September 2020 Next time I go to the casino, will you come with me? I need someone to count cards |
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Post by musik on Mar 4, 2021 0:05:18 GMT
Now I get what you meant, but since we don't play in the Prem L, why count it? When people quote 3 wins in 20 they include losses to Spurs and Leicester. So why not include premiership teams in this as well. We actually have 3 wins and 2 losses to prem teams this season. That's nice! To summarize or to conclude: our 11th position in the league table is precisely what M'ON has expressed: it's pretty much where we are atm. |
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Post by Milkie on Mar 4, 2021 0:05:52 GMT
Now I get what you meant, but since we don't play in the Prem L, why count it? When people quote 3 wins in 20 they include losses to Spurs and Leicester. So why not include premiership teams in this as well. We actually have 3 wins and 2 losses to prem teams this season. Because they are games we played in the last 20 SCFC matches? We haven’t played the rest of the prem, or anybody from the northern premier, so they haven’t been included? The original thread 3 in 20 was about form since the Cardiff loss, it has been edited a number of times so might have lost some context now, however , the loss of Campbell and that result was seen as significant, hence the capturing of form since that night. |
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Post by gawa on Mar 4, 2021 0:05:58 GMT
I've edited as I forgot to include the games between the first and second lost. Since losing to Middlesbrough in December 2019, the only club which Stoke have lost to outside the top 28 in the English football pyramid is Bristol City on 20 September 2020 If you're including the Prem surely you have to include the games we lost to those teams in the cups? I did. 5 games this season 3 wins and 2 losses. No defeats to a team outside the top 28 in the football pyramid. If you were to discount every team we played in that period which isn't a top 28 side then it would be like 1 loss in 23 I think. Or something close to that. I've just noticed though I missed out a friendly against Burton which we lost. So it's 2 in 46. I was just more trying to make a point that only looking at carefully selected stats can be misleading like this. And likewise I don't think we're as bad as 3 losses in 20 sounds on the surface either. |
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Post by thevoid on Mar 4, 2021 0:06:04 GMT
Now I get what you meant, but since we don't play in the Prem L, why count it? When people quote 3 wins in 20 they include losses to Spurs and Leicester. So why not include premiership teams in this as well. We actually have 3 wins and 2 losses to prem teams this season. Do we get double points then? |
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Post by thevoid on Mar 4, 2021 0:10:03 GMT
Stoke have only lost twice in 20 years on a Wednesday to teams in hooped socks when Robert De Niro's turned up sobbing to a Greek barbeque wearing purple court shoes.
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Post by gawa on Mar 4, 2021 0:15:23 GMT
When people quote 3 wins in 20 they include losses to Spurs and Leicester. So why not include premiership teams in this as well. We actually have 3 wins and 2 losses to prem teams this season. Because they are games we played in the last 20 SCFC matches? We haven’t played the rest of the prem, or anybody from the northern premier, so they haven’t been included? The original thread 3 in 20 was about form since the Cardiff loss, it has been edited a number of times so might have lost some context now, however , the loss of Campbell and that result was seen as significant, hence the capturing of form since that night. And I'm not disputing that they shouldn't be including because as you said they are within the last 20 games. I'm simply defending my inclusion of premiership teams in this statistic for the same reason, as the matches occurred within the time frame. I'm not trying to deny the poor form but I don't think we're as bad as many suggest either. When MOM we were rooted to the bottom of the table and miles off the other teams. Based on all games played since then we are 6th (I understand relegated teams have played less games), so there has been an improvement and I believe our continued resilience to not lose to teams below us is a good sign. Or maybe I'm just trying to keep the glass half full and look for positives. But I don't think things are as bad as some suggest. |
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