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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Mar 3, 2021 23:14:56 GMT
Awful decision but Clark got himself in a poor position through a lack of concentration and gave the ref the option of the bad decision. But the lad did not challenge him or make contact. Give him a break! What the lad did does not justify the Naughton cheating or Webb's TOTAL incompetence.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Mar 3, 2021 23:16:12 GMT
How the fuck didn't the Sky interviewer not even mention it when speaking to Steve Cooper? The pundits couldn't even admit it was a dive and obviously wasn't a penalty. I thought exactly the same the cunt Let me guess? Plain and simple COWARDICE?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 3, 2021 23:28:52 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Mar 3, 2021 23:30:59 GMT
It doesn't matter that we were cheated, we had a penalty against them 7 YEARS ago...
That and some Stoke fans are absolutely desperate for us to lose.
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Post by Davef on Mar 3, 2021 23:32:37 GMT
There was a very similar incident in the Huddersfield away game when Fraizer Campbell threw himself to the ground deep into injury time to try and win a penalty. The referee didn't buy it (though he didn't book Campbell either).
A referee has to be 100% sure what he's awarding in the penalty box at any time of the game, but in the last minute of injury time he's got to be aware that players are going to try and con him.
This clown obviously hasn't got the intelligence to realise that.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 3, 2021 23:35:07 GMT
Clever from Swansea player ..I wish brown could make runs in behind like that and give the referee a decision to make If Brown fell over like that he'd get slated on here especially when 99% of refs don't give them
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Post by thevoid on Mar 3, 2021 23:35:18 GMT
It doesn't matter that we were cheated, we had a penalty against them 7 YEARS ago... That and some Stoke fans are absolutely desperate for us to lose. Small beer compared to calling your fellow supporters 'oxygen thieves'...
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Post by franklin on Mar 3, 2021 23:36:37 GMT
Why don't they just say he dived instead of all the waffle.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 3, 2021 23:36:43 GMT
I thought exactly the same the cunt Let me guess? Plain and simple COWARDICE? Cowardice against what? Cooper's teeth? The Sons of Glyndwr?
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Post by bgreen13 on Mar 3, 2021 23:36:59 GMT
It doesn't matter that we were cheated, we had a penalty against them 7 YEARS ago... That and some Stoke fans are absolutely desperate for us to lose. Small beer compared to calling your fellow supporters 'oxygen thieves'... That's the thing. I'm not exactly sure they are fellow supporters...
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 3, 2021 23:38:43 GMT
That guy on there said 'Fair Play to Naughton". That makes me f****n despair, it really does!! At least Murray said categorically it was never a penalty
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 3, 2021 23:38:57 GMT
Why don't they just say he dived instead of all the waffle. Who is the so called pundit?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 3, 2021 23:39:58 GMT
Clever from Swansea player ..I wish brown could make runs in behind like that and give the referee a decision to make Brown would be running in the opposite direction.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 3, 2021 23:40:42 GMT
Small beer compared to calling your fellow supporters 'oxygen thieves'... That's the thing. I'm not exactly sure they are fellow supporters... Saying as you've been posting on here for about five minutes I'll take their opinion over yours, Johnny Come Lately.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 3, 2021 23:41:10 GMT
That guy on there said 'Fair Play to Naughton". That makes me f****n despair, it really does!! At least Murray said categorically it was never a penalty Ive just realised its Cameron Jerome😡fuckin idiot
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Post by luke45 on Mar 3, 2021 23:43:32 GMT
When you look at the referee's position on the pitch when the incident occurs it just beggars belief doesn't it, how can he give that decision with that view when the linesman hasn't even flagged? We need VAR in the Championship imminently, it's as simple as that really.
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Post by franklin on Mar 3, 2021 23:45:43 GMT
Why don't they just say he dived instead of all the waffle. Who is the so called pundit? I've no idea but its just weak as piss stuff and just daft. Edit: Seen you update 😆
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 3, 2021 23:46:45 GMT
Who is the so called pundit? I've no idea but its just weak as piss stuff and just daft. Its Cameron Jerome I’ve just seen his incisive punditry
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Post by wuzza on Mar 4, 2021 0:12:56 GMT
Simple - the player dived (badly) and the ref made an appalling decision. There no other way of looking at it.
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Post by callas12 on Mar 4, 2021 0:13:03 GMT
I honestly thought the ref was about to point for a free kick for diving. He blew his whistle, appeared to be turning his body to point for the free kick and then had a brain storm and changed his mind and turned back and pointed to the spot. A truly fucking terrible decision, the ref will be embarrassed when he watches that back. My thoughts exactly, I thought he's never bought that & was rightly giving us a free kick.. It was as much never a penalty as Mikels was when he fell to the floor in their area abit before this incident. We didn't a get peno & rightly so but neither should they have either! As others have said why didn't the linesman see or if he did put a stronger case forward towards the ref to explain that no foul had occured?! Just makes you think what's the point doesn't it. That would of been a wounder at any stage of the match to face but in the final 10secs of injury time its like WTF! In hindsight we should of just decided tonight's match on a penalty to them straight after the coin toss! No players injured, fatigued or booked and just move on to Saturday. Coz that's in effect what's happened but we've all had to sit through 95mins to effectively reach the same outcome & conclusion. It's bad enough when you get beat in the last minute in any game but at least it's semi bearable if it's a legitimate goal. Rooneys record breaking free kick for MUFC prime example, hard to take but was a fantastic goal. Tonight we were robbed of a deserved & hard earnt point.
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Post by callas12 on Mar 4, 2021 0:27:42 GMT
How the fuck didn't the Sky interviewer not even mention it when speaking to Steve Cooper? The pundits couldn't even admit it was a dive and obviously wasn't a penalty. I got the impression Cooper was coming across abit smarmy during his interview. Saying they edged it & fully deserved the win & played football the right way blah blah blah! He'd intimated his team stuck to their game plan & got what they deserved! He suggested we were just dangerous on the counter attack from crosses! I think we had the better chances throughout, we hit the post & bar & their keeper pulled off a good save too. Was waiting for the guy to ask him about the penalty & to emphasise this was the only way they scored a winner via a dubious penalty but it never came. To be honest afterwards I'm glad he wasn't asked about it as he'd of probably given out an answer that would of annoyed me even more! He'd have said something like there was contact or he'd spoken to Naughton who confirmed there was a foul or something daft!
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 4, 2021 2:25:30 GMT
For all the stick VAR gets at least you don't get bollocks like this. I’m not at all sure VAR would have ruled it out. If there’s the slightest brush of contact there it would probably go down as a trip.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Mar 4, 2021 5:39:00 GMT
For me It’s just part and parcel of the sad demise of the national game that incentivises cheating - largely justified by pundits and players alike. Feigning injury, rolling around screaming and face clutching - and chipping away at the ref throughout - even automatic appeals for throws or corners when blatently not the case becomes tiresome as does the default attempt to steal of yards on every dead ball or throw - and then there’s time wasting of course - now an art form for keepers who will go to ground 3 seconds after having gathered the ball upright ......sock and boot adjustment - Ince drove me to distraction with that sock pulling into stockings thing he was forever doing and not forgetting the substitution song and dance - that long traipse from the furthest part of the field and random added time.
Maybe it was always thus and this game not for me as I grow older and more curmudgeonly?
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 4, 2021 6:40:45 GMT
I've no idea but its just weak as piss stuff and just daft. Its Cameron Jerome I’ve just seen his incisive punditry Can't believe the comment "Fair play to Naughton" How the fuck can he be giving praise to a cheat, personally I think simulation is disgraceful and these cheats should be villified not praised.Cunt!
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 4, 2021 10:30:19 GMT
Awful decision but Clark got himself in a poor position through a lack of concentration and gave the ref the option of the bad decision. That's irrelevant what is relevant is he makes no contact what so ever and that the ref and linesman should of between them got it right, I also believe as said above that the ref looks kike he's giving us a free kick and then for no reason changes his mind.
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Post by lancashirelad on Mar 4, 2021 10:30:52 GMT
Sadly the referee throughout the game gave a few soft free kicks and two on Clarke so i am sure the Swansea players were aware a fall to the floor as Ayew tried seconds earlier would result in a free kick/penalty. He was weak throughout the game in my opinion but consistent.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 4, 2021 10:31:05 GMT
Awful decision but Clark got himself in a poor position through a lack of concentration and gave the ref the option of the bad decision. RND was blocked off by Robert’s stopping him cover the run. Clarke did as much as he could to pull out and show he was pulling out. Blaming Clarke is nonsense
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 4, 2021 10:35:40 GMT
Nothing will happen to the prick,he’ll probably ring O’Neill up and say he got it wrong but that means nothing
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Post by claymore on Mar 4, 2021 10:35:54 GMT
Great centre back for Chelsea and QPR back in the day, think he even scored in the 1970 FA cup final vs Leeds, some game that was n'all.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 4, 2021 10:38:23 GMT
For me It’s just part and parcel of the sad demise of the national game that incentivises cheating - largely justified by pundits and players alike. Feigning injury, rolling around screaming and face clutching - and chipping away at the ref throughout - even automatic appeals for throws or corners when blatently not the case becomes tiresome as does the default attempt to steal of yards on every dead ball or throw - and then there’s time wasting of course - now an art form for keepers who will go to ground 3 seconds after having gathered the ball upright ......sock and boot adjustment - Ince drove me to distraction with that sock pulling into stockings thing he was forever doing and not forgetting the substitution song and dance - that long traipse from the furthest part of the field and random added time. Maybe it was always thus and this game not for me as I grow older and more curmudgeonly? Doesn’t come anywhere near the Columbian classic time wasting tactics in World Cup few years. They were doing all you describe above but came up with a real stunner very near the end of the game. The attacking team, can’t remember who it was, put the ball out for a Columbian goal kick. The Columbians then proceeded to line up to defend a corner with keeper rolling the ball towards the corner flag. The ref was completely confused and was immediately surrounded by players of.both teams adding to the melee and ticking clock. Very amusing at the time.
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