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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 3, 2021 22:23:06 GMT
If VAR had been in place, Naughton would have been booked for the dive. Sadly he wouldn't. It seems that VAR has just allowed diving as even when overturned I can't remember a single instance of the diving player getting booked. It's almost like they say "good effort but.we didn't fall for that one. Play on and have another go later" Nah, when most penalties get overturned it isn't because the forward has dived. That was so blatant, I'd have booked him for the dive and then booked him again for his snide laughter at having bought it immediately afterwards and promptly sent the fucker off!
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 3, 2021 22:23:09 GMT
My thoughts exactly pal. 1-1 was fair but our approach is so negative. Positivity breeds positive actions and results We are forced to be negative because we don't have any forwards who would get in another team, except Powell! Don’t accept that, we lack the mentality and positivity. We should be doing much more with what we have.
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Post by stokemark on Mar 3, 2021 22:23:25 GMT
I think tonight any ire has to be directed purely at Naughton and the officials
We more than deserved a point
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Post by march4 on Mar 3, 2021 22:23:32 GMT
He's probably waiting for us to go behind before he brings Clarke on🤣 And what will he do? Ran around for 30 seconds. Was constantly out of position, couldn’t track back effectively or close down. Then gave the ref the option of his appalling penalty decision by losing concentration and getting on the wrong side of his man. Not yet ready for football at this level. Plenty of talent but needs to offer more when he doesn’t have the ball.
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Post by BuzzB on Mar 3, 2021 22:23:32 GMT
Absolute shocking penalty, that said Naughton is just a cheat. Blame Shearer et al who bang on that feeling a touch you are entitled to go down, players have heard it so many times they do it second nature now. I hate the game at times, moderns day football gets worse by the minute.
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Post by franklin on Mar 3, 2021 22:23:32 GMT
When will the board wake up sleepwalking into oblivion under their watch. I dunno mate I've no idea where we're going.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 3, 2021 22:23:43 GMT
Fucking cheat...but it doesnt alter the fact we're wank!! We’re not though. We played well. We’ve more than held our own against two sides going for automatic promotion this week. With a couple of additions in the summer and players back from injuries we have a real chance next season. We have just lost 3 on the bounce
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Post by thehoof on Mar 3, 2021 22:24:13 GMT
Don’t talk daft Bayern, Fletcher was under no pressure and buffered it up. He tried to pass it and failed- you are moaning about a pass that actually found a Stoke player, as opposed to one that didn’t. Because the pass that should have been made would have resulted to a shot on target. It was woeful from Brown. Why would it? Would Clarke have controlled it? Would he have tripped over? You don’t know- but Fletcher did not manage a simple chip to Clarke, who was still open.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 3, 2021 22:24:18 GMT
But the bad decision didn’t make the bad pass Bayern. That was purely a crap pass by Fletcher- and if Fletcher can’t make a simple chipped pass like that 8 times out of 10, then he shouldn’t be playing. Brown is poor, but don’t blame him for Fletcher’s crappiness. Giving the ball to a left footer there when there was a player in acres of space is the issue. If Fletcher called then Maybe it’s his fault. Good chance Brown didn’t see Clarke as he came late after Powell went down
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Post by matelot1996 on Mar 3, 2021 22:24:18 GMT
It amuses me when Football Fans are shocked that cheating is rewarded. It’s literally what you support by giving your Money every week. The FA and FIFA etc have zero, retrospective punishment for deliberate cheating. Most millennium fan boys of the Premier League et al have no right to complain about these rancid little cheating turds. If you contribute towards it in the form of Sky and Season Tickets you endorse it so be quiet and enjoy 👍
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Post by RF10 on Mar 3, 2021 22:24:54 GMT
What a fucking joke. We did not deserve that at all.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Mar 3, 2021 22:24:55 GMT
Why have we become such a hapless team? Why do we have a manager who has about as much sideline passion as a wet codd? Why has the whole setup, players and manager folded up?
This latest run has been as bad as it could get so far, and offers nothing for the remainder of this god awful season. It could get even worse.
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 3, 2021 22:25:28 GMT
I really feel this season has been the worst when it comes down to the small margins, they always seem to go against us! I know you create your own luck, but we really have had some bad decisions against us this season. If we add all the injuries as well it's probably not so bad being a mid-table team, but it's not fun any longer, I actually feel sick every time it happens, and it does, over and over again!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 3, 2021 22:25:29 GMT
It amuses me when Football Fans are shocked that cheating is rewarded. It’s literally what you support by giving your Money every week. The FA and FIFA etc have zero, retrospective punishment for deliberate cheating. Most millennium fan boys of the Premier League et al have no right to complain about these rancid little cheating turds. If you contribute towards it in the form of Sky and Season Tickets you endorse it so be quiet and enjoy 👍 Lol, it’s the fans fault Kyle naughton dived - great one.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Mar 3, 2021 22:25:42 GMT
When will the board wake up sleepwalking into oblivion under their watch. I dunno mate I've no idea where we're going. I do....league one.
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Post by Boothen on Mar 3, 2021 22:25:53 GMT
I see Radio Stoke are screening the callers they allow on air. No criticism of the manager allowed.
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Post by mcw on Mar 3, 2021 22:26:45 GMT
I think tonight any ire has to be directed purely at Naughton and the officials We more than deserved a point [/quote A cheating snively shit aided and abetted by an overweight and shit referee, god that is hard to take. If I was there manager I would fine Naughton for bringing the game into disrepute and lack of gamesmanship. This kind of shit needs eradicating and shit useless refs like that need fucking off
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Post by tuum on Mar 3, 2021 22:26:45 GMT
If VAR had been in place, Naughton would have been booked for the dive. Doesn't make much difference to our season but it's fucking diabolical and it's not Stoke it's going to affect so much but who Swansea steal two points from by cheating to get in the playoffs because of this incompetent cunt. I'd have VAR every game every division ASAP. BM I wouldn't. I accept that refs will fuck up every now and then. It makes the post match discussion in the pub so much more emotional. It is part of what footy is about - playing well and being shafted by a dodgy refereeing decision in the last minute.
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Post by terry2stoke on Mar 3, 2021 22:27:06 GMT
Stoke lost simply because we can’t score goals unless the opponents grant us one full stop
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 3, 2021 22:27:11 GMT
We were, if you think otherwise you have an agenda. That was a decent performance but you seem to want MON to fail. We will play well and we will also play bad, but ever game we are 'shit' apparently (thats regardless of the result) What agenda is that then? Enlighten me? Why would I want MON to fail? If you think we were good when we lack movement, ball control, ability to look forward and a desire to keep on going with plodding players, then you must be really easily pleased. If we play well I will say it, win or lose. If we play poorly I will say it win or lose. It’s an opinion and a view on a game and performance, that’s all.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 3, 2021 22:27:39 GMT
Tbf it doesn't matter if it was or not (it wasn't), it would still be 3 in 20 (harsh to include cup games imo). If we play like that each week I'm happy, we got take our chances though. We won't thats the problem, Mikel can't carry the midfield every game, something needs to change.
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Post by franklin on Mar 3, 2021 22:27:39 GMT
I dunno mate I've no idea where we're going. I do....league one. I hope you're wrong but fear you're right.
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Post by uttoxeterpotter on Mar 3, 2021 22:27:41 GMT
I could see it happening as soon as Naughton got close to Clarke.
Last minute of the game, he might as well go down as the ref could fall for the dive.
At worst he gets booked and that late in the game a yellow card doesn't make a difference.
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Post by peterpan1 on Mar 3, 2021 22:27:42 GMT
Cheating Welsh twats, just like their Rugby team.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 3, 2021 22:28:29 GMT
Keith Andrews "I cannot say there was definitive contact"
You're fucking blind then you prick........
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Post by nott1 on Mar 3, 2021 22:28:33 GMT
We are forced to be negative because we don't have any forwards who would get in another team, except Powell! Don’t accept that, we lack the mentality and positivity. We should be doing much more with what we have. I'm sorry but not one of them is good enough. Fletcher is next to useless and can't score from two yards out, Brown's a headless chicken, Vokes is completely useless and the rest can hardly get a start.We need to get in at least two proper strikers this Summer and dump the rest!
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 3, 2021 22:28:35 GMT
Because the pass that should have been made would have resulted to a shot on target. It was woeful from Brown. Why would it? Would Clarke have controlled it? Would he have tripped over? You don’t know- but Fletcher did not manage a simple chip to Clarke, who was still open. I thought Fletcher could have taken the ball on he was fairly clear, he could have taken one touch & he would have been in a good position to score.
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Post by matelot1996 on Mar 3, 2021 22:28:47 GMT
It amuses me when Football Fans are shocked that cheating is rewarded. It’s literally what you support by giving your Money every week. The FA and FIFA etc have zero, retrospective punishment for deliberate cheating. Most millennium fan boys of the Premier League et al have no right to complain about these rancid little cheating turds. If you contribute towards it in the form of Sky and Season Tickets you endorse it so be quiet and enjoy 👍 Lol, it’s the fans fault Kyle naughton dived - great one. You need to re- read that shag. That is not what I said. Not even close.
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Post by milky on Mar 3, 2021 22:28:51 GMT
Scandalous decision aside it was almost identical to the Brentford game.
Gifted an early goal ,fail to build on it ,miss golden chances and from about 70 minutes certain players are knackered but mysteriously stay on the pitch all game.
This season cant end soon enough for me.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 3, 2021 22:28:58 GMT
So according to Prutton tracking the runner and making zero contact is "clumsy"
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