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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 3:21:42 GMT
Why on earth would MON want to go to a club that we've beaten in deals for about 4 or 5 players? because they're a far far bigger club
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 26, 2021 4:18:17 GMT
Why on earth would MON want to go to a club that we've beaten in deals for about 4 or 5 players? because they're a far far bigger club So why did we beat them to these signings?đ
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 4:56:43 GMT
because they're a far far bigger club So why did we beat them to these signings?đ Depends if you believe the papers etc Shaqiri chose us over Everton for example. Yes, we're a far bigger club than Everton I guess ( insert your smiley face thing here if required). Are you actually suggesting we're not?
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 26, 2021 5:15:43 GMT
Why on earth would MON want to go to a club that we've beaten in deals for about 4 or 5 players? because they're a far far bigger club Donât think thatâs how it works any more. Historically and fanbase-wise, of course, but what does that matter now? Over the last ten or 15 years weâve been âbiggerâ than Celtic by many orders of magnitude in terms of finances and global exposure - even now. The number of people in the world whoâve watched a live Stoke game on telly probably outnumbers those whoâve seen Celtic by a thousand to one. Weâll be a far more recognisable name now, particularly among the younger generation. Which all sounds a bit blithe and soulless and I donât necessarily like it, but thatâs the way it is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 6:10:36 GMT
because they're a far far bigger club Donât think thatâs how it works any more. Historically and fanbase-wise, of course, but what does that matter now? Over the last ten or 15 years weâve been âbiggerâ than Celtic by many orders of magnitude in terms of finances and global exposure - even now. The number of people in the world whoâve watched a live Stoke game on telly probably outnumbers those whoâve seen Celtic by a thousand to one. Weâll be a far more recognisable name now, particularly among the younger generation. Which all sounds a bit blithe and soulless and I donât necessarily like it, but thatâs the way it is. i don't agree with that at all. are Celtic pubs worldwide, huge fanbases all over the world. we're nowhere near them in any sense. True we had Prem exposure and with Prem money could offer higher wages for a while . 100 million people watch the old Firm estimated worldwide, We are a more recognisable name than before but small fry in comparison. Celtic have over 150 worldwide fan clubs and an estimated 9 million fans. 1000 to one , really?
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Post by sportsman on Feb 26, 2021 6:23:07 GMT
Why is this thread still going?
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Post by Northy on Feb 26, 2021 6:38:31 GMT
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Post by questionable on Feb 26, 2021 7:46:54 GMT
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Post by lordb on Feb 26, 2021 8:05:17 GMT
because they're a far far bigger club So why did we beat them to these signings?đ Because we, like all Championship clubs with the exception of Wycombe, pay more wages than Celtic.
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Post by sportsman on Feb 26, 2021 8:20:22 GMT
And that warrants 4 pages of nonsense? đ
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 26, 2021 9:21:28 GMT
So why did we beat them to these signings?đ Depends if you believe the papers etc  Shaqiri chose us over Everton for example. Yes, we're a far bigger club than Everton I guess ( insert your smiley face thing here if required). Are you actually suggesting we're not? Bigger clubs pay bigger wages. So Celtic aren't a bigger club are they. They have a bigger following and more tradition but financially they are minnows.đ
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 26, 2021 11:56:26 GMT
Donât think thatâs how it works any more. Historically and fanbase-wise, of course, but what does that matter now? Over the last ten or 15 years weâve been âbiggerâ than Celtic by many orders of magnitude in terms of finances and global exposure - even now. The number of people in the world whoâve watched a live Stoke game on telly probably outnumbers those whoâve seen Celtic by a thousand to one. Weâll be a far more recognisable name now, particularly among the younger generation. Which all sounds a bit blithe and soulless and I donât necessarily like it, but thatâs the way it is. i don't agree with that at all. are Celtic pubs worldwide, huge fanbases all over the world. we're nowhere near them in any sense. True we had Prem exposure and with Prem money could offer higher wages for a while . 100 million people watch the old Firm estimated worldwide, We are a more recognisable name than before but small fry in comparison. Celtic have over 150 worldwide fan clubs and an estimated 9 million fans. 1000 to one , really? I know theyâre a big club with a lot of support. The Irish diaspora probably has much to answer for... But the TV exposure weâve had will dwarf anything Celtic have recently, if only because we played one of the big six every two or three weeks for ten years, live in the homes of hundreds of millions of people. Weâre a household name for anyone who follows the Premier League. It counts for a lot. Celtic get virtually nothing, bar the odd game in Europe here or there. Anecdotally Iâve lived in different places overseas for fifteen years and Iâve never seen any Scottish football at all. If it crops up in conversation people (football fans) are generally dimly aware of the Old Firm and that Celtic were once a great European name, but the conversation doesnât go much further than how you pronounce their name. Which is a bit sad really but you know, itâs 2021.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 26, 2021 12:11:05 GMT
Depends if you believe the papers etc  Shaqiri chose us over Everton for example. Yes, we're a far bigger club than Everton I guess ( insert your smiley face thing here if required). Are you actually suggesting we're not? Bigger clubs pay bigger wages. So Celtic aren't a bigger club are they. They have a bigger following and more tradition but financially they are minnows.đ Does that mean Bournemouth are bigger than us then?
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Post by durbanscircus on Feb 26, 2021 12:36:13 GMT
I think some of us Stoke fans are going to have to adjust to the fact that without parachute payments next year we will be a fairly modest sized club with around ÂŁ20m turnover a year. Even though Celtic get next to nothing from TV their turnover is ÂŁ50-60m and in a year when they get beyond the knock out stages of the Champions League they can pocket another ÂŁ30m. If you try and tell a Celtic fan next season we are a bigger club with our 18,000 fans in a second division when they can fill a 60,000 stadium nearly every week be prepared for mirth and laughter
EDIT....Ive just checked and Celtic have 17,000 people on the waiting list for season tickets which is staggering as it suggests that for the likes of Motherwell and Hamilton they could draw a 75,000 crowd if the ground was big enough
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 26, 2021 14:03:39 GMT
I think some of us Stoke fans are going to have to adjust to the fact that without parachute payments next year we will be a fairly modest sized club with around ÂŁ20m turnover a year. Even though Celtic get next to nothing from TV their turnover is ÂŁ50-60m and in a year when they get beyond the knock out stages of the Champions League they can pocket another ÂŁ30m. If you try and tell a Celtic fan next season we are a bigger club with our 18,000 fans in a second division when they can fill a 60,000 stadium nearly every week be prepared for mirth and laughter EDIT....Ive just checked and Celtic have 17,000 people on the waiting list for season tickets which is staggering as it suggests that for the likes of Motherwell and Hamilton they could draw a 75,000 crowd if the ground was big enough Theyâre obviously huge in terms of fanbase and history. But they canât compete with Premier League and some Championship clubs that are a fraction of their size (like us) for transfers/managers. Such is modern footer.
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Post by wazbagsbro on Feb 26, 2021 16:06:08 GMT
Celtic and Rangers are the size of Man u and Liverpool, we are no where near them. Just because finance has change through Sky doesn't change a 100 years plus of history . Enough of this bollocks , get a grip
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 16:25:23 GMT
Celtic and Rangers are the size of Man u and Liverpool, we are no where near them. Just because finance has change through Sky doesn't change a 100 years plus of history . Enough of this bollocks , get a grip Historically big clubs with little significance anywhere other than Scotland now, gone are the days of European success for both not often players are plundered by big clubs in England from either, pretty much disappeared off the radar.
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Post by werrington on Feb 26, 2021 16:28:21 GMT
Celtic and Rangers are the size of Man u and Liverpool, we are no where near them. Just because finance has change through Sky doesn't change a 100 years plus of history . Enough of this bollocks , get a grip They are both huge football clubs and if in the premiership give it 5 years and theyâd both be challenging at the very top and in Europe given the money theyâd generate Love them or loathe them they are two of the worlds biggest clubs
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Post by str8outtahampton on Feb 26, 2021 16:47:51 GMT
Celtic and Rangers are the size of Man u and Liverpool, we are no where near them. Just because finance has change through Sky doesn't change a 100 years plus of history . Enough of this bollocks , get a grip Historically big clubs with little significance anywhere other than Scotland now, gone are the days of European success for both not often players are plundered by big clubs in England from either, pretty much disappeared off the radar. Completely right. And if anyone disputes that, how about a trip up to Glasgow when the dust settles? On match day. You could pop into a Celtic pub. Shouldn't be difficult to find one or two. You could test the "little significance" theory. I'd pay to watch.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 26, 2021 19:49:10 GMT
Thatâs a very fair point unless there recruitment is as poor as ours They appointed Lennon. Fair point , He had though won a few trophies thatâs OâNeilâs Achilles heel good coach no doubt but heâs never won promotion in this country or run a transfer window and Iâm afraid itâs showing
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Post by Royal Donut on Feb 26, 2021 20:15:35 GMT
Celtic and Rangers are the size of Man u and Liverpool, we are no where near them. Just because finance has change through Sky doesn't change a 100 years plus of history . Enough of this bollocks , get a grip How come championship clubs get linked with the same players as Rangers or Celtic, how many times in the next ten years are either these clubs getting close to a champions league final, I'll have a guess of none for the next few decades. They have a big following yes like many other clubs around the world with 1 or 2 clubs. Finance changes everything don't let that kid you.
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Post by lordb on Feb 26, 2021 20:32:12 GMT
Celtic and Rangers are the size of Man u and Liverpool, we are no where near them. Just because finance has change through Sky doesn't change a 100 years plus of history . Enough of this bollocks , get a grip They are both huge football clubs and if in the premiership give it 5 years and theyâd both be challenging at the very top and in Europe given the money theyâd generate Love them or loathe them they are two of the worlds biggest clubs If it happened 50 years ago yes agree but now? Nah. They would be like Newcastle banging on about their fan base whilst shuffling between the Championship and mid table Premier League. Challenge for top4? Highly improbable
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 21:17:25 GMT
Historically big clubs with little significance anywhere other than Scotland now, gone are the days of European success for both not often players are plundered by big clubs in England from either, pretty much disappeared off the radar. Completely right. And if anyone disputes that, how about a trip up to Glasgow when the dust settles? On match day. You could pop into a Celtic pub. Shouldn't be difficult to find one or two. You could test the "little significance" theory. I'd pay to watch. Why would I want to go to Glasgow horrible place full of racist knuckle dragging piss heads, like it or not they are only significant in Scotland, I have been to Glasgow been in Celtic bars (Sauchiehall Street) I thought they were Irish bars full of shamrocks and orish flags, dog shit lager & Guinness, best part of Glasgow was the train in the station taking us back to England.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 21:26:50 GMT
Celtic and Rangers are the size of Man u and Liverpool, we are no where near them. Just because finance has change through Sky doesn't change a 100 years plus of history . Enough of this bollocks , get a grip They are both huge football clubs and if in the premiership give it 5 years and theyâd both be challenging at the very top and in Europe given the money theyâd generate Love them or loathe them they are two of the worlds biggest clubs They will never be in the EPL though especially when wee jimmie gets her own way and the Scots get independency.
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Post by Gods on Feb 26, 2021 21:30:41 GMT
Celtic and Rangers are the size of Man u and Liverpool, we are no where near them. Just because finance has change through Sky doesn't change a 100 years plus of history . Enough of this bollocks , get a grip Indeed, Celtic are the football club of the catholic world, a football institution, when they are playing the world stops from Brazil to Ireland to the Philippines. Anyone who thinks a few temporary pound notes from the premier league makes up for that knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Feb 26, 2021 21:44:34 GMT
Completely right. And if anyone disputes that, how about a trip up to Glasgow when the dust settles? On match day. You could pop into a Celtic pub. Shouldn't be difficult to find one or two. You could test the "little significance" theory. I'd pay to watch. Why would I want to go to Glasgow horrible place full of racist knuckle dragging piss heads, like it or not they are only significant in Scotland, I have been to Glasgow been in Celtic bars (Sauchiehall Street) I thought they were Irish bars full of shamrocks and orish flags, dog shit lager & Guinness, best part of Glasgow was the train in the station taking us back to England. Those long winter evenings, chez toi. I imagine they simply fly by for the current Mr Crapslinger.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 21:56:36 GMT
Celtic and Rangers are the size of Man u and Liverpool, we are no where near them. Just because finance has change through Sky doesn't change a 100 years plus of history . Enough of this bollocks , get a grip Indeed, Celtic are the football club of the catholic world, a football institution, when they are playing the world stops from Brazil to Ireland to the Philippines. Anyone who thinks a few temporary pound notes from the premier league makes up for that knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing. In Singapore on a Celtic match day you simply couldn't move in pubs, plenty in NYC, Boston also in clubs , bars etc. To suggest ,more watch Stoke is nonsense. The Old Firm was crazy. Celtic are simply massive, worldwide. As i said they have an estimated worlwide fan base of 9 million. Doesn't matter that they play where they do and maybe not the best quality, teams come and go in the Prem and splash money , Celtic remain the huge club they are and you can't deny the facts.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 22:06:17 GMT
Why would I want to go to Glasgow horrible place full of racist knuckle dragging piss heads, like it or not they are only significant in Scotland, I have been to Glasgow been in Celtic bars (Sauchiehall Street) I thought they were Irish bars full of shamrocks and orish flags, dog shit lager & Guinness, best part of Glasgow was the train in the station taking us back to England. Those long winter evenings, chez toi. I imagine they simply fly by for the current Mr Crapslinger. same as everyone else in lockdown duck, do you live in sweaty sock land ?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 22:14:23 GMT
Indeed, Celtic are the football club of the catholic world, a football institution, when they are playing the world stops from Brazil to Ireland to the Philippines. Anyone who thinks a few temporary pound notes from the premier league makes up for that knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing. In Singapore on a Celtic match day you simply couldn't move in pubs, plenty in NYC, Boston also in clubs , bars etc. To suggest ,more watch Stoke is nonsense. The Old Firm was crazy. Celtic are simply massive, worldwide. As i said they have an estimated worlwide fan base of 9 million. Doesn't matter that they play where they do and maybe not the best quality, teams come and go in the Prem and splash money , Celtic remain the huge club they are and you can't deny the facts. Massive Worldwide yeh of course they are, if they are so massive why haven't they got a pot to piss in ?, big club in a shit League living on past glory's even we would beat them, they are not even the biggest club in Scotland, if the dream of a European Super League ever comes to fruition I doubt either would be invited to join it.
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Post by lordb on Feb 26, 2021 22:41:36 GMT
I think some of us Stoke fans are going to have to adjust to the fact that without parachute payments next year we will be a fairly modest sized club with around ÂŁ20m turnover a year. Even though Celtic get next to nothing from TV their turnover is ÂŁ50-60m and in a year when they get beyond the knock out stages of the Champions League they can pocket another ÂŁ30m. If you try and tell a Celtic fan next season we are a bigger club with our 18,000 fans in a second division when they can fill a 60,000 stadium nearly every week be prepared for mirth and laughter EDIT....Ive just checked and Celtic have 17,000 people on the waiting list for season tickets which is staggering as it suggests that for the likes of Motherwell and Hamilton they could draw a 75,000 crowd if the ground was big enough & Our budget will still be higher
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